Discussion
EddieSteadyGo said:
I think it is a remarkable achievement to effectively launch a new brand and a new car and manage to get it to be so competitive to a Model 3 in terms of price and specs.
I also think using the Google operating system, as the next step on from Android Auto, is a nice feature.
Now we have Polestar and Tesla both making £50k EVs with 4 wheel drive and 400+hp, they are laying down the marker for BMW etc.
Yep, the Germans seem to be non existant in this marketplace and are making promises for next year.I also think using the Google operating system, as the next step on from Android Auto, is a nice feature.
Now we have Polestar and Tesla both making £50k EVs with 4 wheel drive and 400+hp, they are laying down the marker for BMW etc.
SWoll said:
modeller said:
Even XC40 BEV will be £10k more than a similarly spec'd Polestar 2
Which seems ridiculous and does make you wonder if they are making a loss/slim margin on each P2 in an attempt to get the brand out there and grab some market share?SWoll said:
modeller said:
Even XC40 BEV will be £10k more than a similarly spec'd Polestar 2
Which seems ridiculous and does make you wonder if they are making a loss/slim margin on each P2 in an attempt to get the brand out there and grab some market share?Volvo will be usual here is the inflated RRP and this is the deal. Plus suv bodyshape premium.
jason61c said:
"the look on Tesla drivers’ faces"I'm assuming he means the fleeting glimpse you'll get of them in their rear view mirror?
The funny thing is that review compares the P2 to the Model 3 a lot whereas having read it I would suggest it's more of a bargain iPace rival? Similar weight, performance, raised ride height, hatchback practicality, range and possible charging challenges?
Edited by SWoll on Wednesday 8th July 09:27
SWoll said:
"the look on Tesla drivers’ faces"
I'm assuming he means the fleeting glimpse you'll get of them in their rear view mirror?
given the numbers are conservative, every review has said how 'repeatable' the performance is(which isn't always the case), the fact its a decent steer, I think its more aimed at the fact its a premium product, I can let go of being 1 second slower to 60, just for the better looks and premium feel. its not making any outlandish claims.I'm assuming he means the fleeting glimpse you'll get of them in their rear view mirror?
its good for tesla, it'll help them push onwards, hopefully try and sort some of the quality/fit/finish issues, tesla will help push other's on in terms of tech and range. It'll be good for all of us.
aestetix1 said:
Once they get the £30-something k model out it really will be the long range luxury EV to have.
It'll certainly be interesting to see if they manage to get it out there at that price + exactly how luxurious and 'long range' it is if they do. Going to have to lose a few things to drop 20-30% from the current £50k base list price I'd suggest?It appears that Polestar 2 lease prices are out for personal contract hire, on the Polestar website (leasing by ALD I believe)
6 + 23 at £556 a month (including VAT) for 10k miles a year a total of £16,124 which works out at 34% of price of £46,900 (£49,900 before government grant)
If you want a longer lease, then for 3 years, it works out at £23,076, 49% of the cost of the car. Who knows what the charge is for going over the 10k miles a year limit, Polestar don't mention that at all.
Who on here is tempted (or put off) by those numbers? I thought that EVs have low depreciation?
6 + 23 at £556 a month (including VAT) for 10k miles a year a total of £16,124 which works out at 34% of price of £46,900 (£49,900 before government grant)
If you want a longer lease, then for 3 years, it works out at £23,076, 49% of the cost of the car. Who knows what the charge is for going over the 10k miles a year limit, Polestar don't mention that at all.
Who on here is tempted (or put off) by those numbers? I thought that EVs have low depreciation?
I have to admit to being gradually underwhelmed.
I placed an initial deposit back in February 2019 as thought the 2 could be a fantastic option vs Tesla (I just do not like their interior and exterior designs). Initial reviews have been very good - I think the product itself is great.
However, the whole customer experience has been terrible. I think I have called and emailed at least 15 times over the last six months requesting updates on pricing, delivery etc. For example, I remember getting an email about test drives probably 6 months ago - but the link to book never worked - and when queried several times over a couple of months, was just told this should be happening soon and they didn't know why the booking link didn't work!
More recently Covid has clearly been felt - but the message on Polestar's press feeds was that Covid did not impact production. Leasing companies started to advertise rates of around £450 per month (inc VAT) on 24 month deals from around two months ago but could not confirm delivery dates / ordering (understandably given Polestar UK - which seems to be one person as far as I can tell) equally has been unable to confirm anything. We finally now have finance figures released (three weeks after the government approved EV grant status) which are rather more than originally mentioned. Equally the process seems to just send you to a leasing company directly - I am sorry but does not work in my opinion for a new premium product launch. Fair enough, after confirming spec, delivery target etc. then being sent to a leasing company should you choose to go down the leasing route but not at the start.
Given the pretty terrible level of communication and support, I would be severely concerned about what happens if you actually get a car in September. There is no Polestar UK, no dealerships, one person on the end of a phone (after you have to stay on hold for a while)....what happens when something goes wrong with the car, which is not unrealistic given it is a brand new car? I can foresee be stranded somewhere with a confused looking AA person shrugging their shoulders going "mmm....electric Polestar...not sure what to do here".
Wanted to be really excited but hasn't turned out that way. Maybe just me!
I placed an initial deposit back in February 2019 as thought the 2 could be a fantastic option vs Tesla (I just do not like their interior and exterior designs). Initial reviews have been very good - I think the product itself is great.
However, the whole customer experience has been terrible. I think I have called and emailed at least 15 times over the last six months requesting updates on pricing, delivery etc. For example, I remember getting an email about test drives probably 6 months ago - but the link to book never worked - and when queried several times over a couple of months, was just told this should be happening soon and they didn't know why the booking link didn't work!
More recently Covid has clearly been felt - but the message on Polestar's press feeds was that Covid did not impact production. Leasing companies started to advertise rates of around £450 per month (inc VAT) on 24 month deals from around two months ago but could not confirm delivery dates / ordering (understandably given Polestar UK - which seems to be one person as far as I can tell) equally has been unable to confirm anything. We finally now have finance figures released (three weeks after the government approved EV grant status) which are rather more than originally mentioned. Equally the process seems to just send you to a leasing company directly - I am sorry but does not work in my opinion for a new premium product launch. Fair enough, after confirming spec, delivery target etc. then being sent to a leasing company should you choose to go down the leasing route but not at the start.
Given the pretty terrible level of communication and support, I would be severely concerned about what happens if you actually get a car in September. There is no Polestar UK, no dealerships, one person on the end of a phone (after you have to stay on hold for a while)....what happens when something goes wrong with the car, which is not unrealistic given it is a brand new car? I can foresee be stranded somewhere with a confused looking AA person shrugging their shoulders going "mmm....electric Polestar...not sure what to do here".
Wanted to be really excited but hasn't turned out that way. Maybe just me!
virage11 said:
I have to admit to being gradually underwhelmed.
I placed an initial deposit back in February 2019 as thought the 2 could be a fantastic option vs Tesla (I just do not like their interior and exterior designs). Initial reviews have been very good - I think the product itself is great.
However, the whole customer experience has been terrible. I think I have called and emailed at least 15 times over the last six months requesting updates on pricing, delivery etc. For example, I remember getting an email about test drives probably 6 months ago - but the link to book never worked - and when queried several times over a couple of months, was just told this should be happening soon and they didn't know why the booking link didn't work!
More recently Covid has clearly been felt - but the message on Polestar's press feeds was that Covid did not impact production. Leasing companies started to advertise rates of around £450 per month (inc VAT) on 24 month deals from around two months ago but could not confirm delivery dates / ordering (understandably given Polestar UK - which seems to be one person as far as I can tell) equally has been unable to confirm anything. We finally now have finance figures released (three weeks after the government approved EV grant status) which are rather more than originally mentioned. Equally the process seems to just send you to a leasing company directly - I am sorry but does not work in my opinion for a new premium product launch. Fair enough, after confirming spec, delivery target etc. then being sent to a leasing company should you choose to go down the leasing route but not at the start.
Given the pretty terrible level of communication and support, I would be severely concerned about what happens if you actually get a car in September. There is no Polestar UK, no dealerships, one person on the end of a phone (after you have to stay on hold for a while)....what happens when something goes wrong with the car, which is not unrealistic given it is a brand new car? I can foresee be stranded somewhere with a confused looking AA person shrugging their shoulders going "mmm....electric Polestar...not sure what to do here".
Wanted to be really excited but hasn't turned out that way. Maybe just me!
I'd put money on being given a volvo if there's any issues. some press things have said selected volvo dealerships will lookafter servicing.I placed an initial deposit back in February 2019 as thought the 2 could be a fantastic option vs Tesla (I just do not like their interior and exterior designs). Initial reviews have been very good - I think the product itself is great.
However, the whole customer experience has been terrible. I think I have called and emailed at least 15 times over the last six months requesting updates on pricing, delivery etc. For example, I remember getting an email about test drives probably 6 months ago - but the link to book never worked - and when queried several times over a couple of months, was just told this should be happening soon and they didn't know why the booking link didn't work!
More recently Covid has clearly been felt - but the message on Polestar's press feeds was that Covid did not impact production. Leasing companies started to advertise rates of around £450 per month (inc VAT) on 24 month deals from around two months ago but could not confirm delivery dates / ordering (understandably given Polestar UK - which seems to be one person as far as I can tell) equally has been unable to confirm anything. We finally now have finance figures released (three weeks after the government approved EV grant status) which are rather more than originally mentioned. Equally the process seems to just send you to a leasing company directly - I am sorry but does not work in my opinion for a new premium product launch. Fair enough, after confirming spec, delivery target etc. then being sent to a leasing company should you choose to go down the leasing route but not at the start.
Given the pretty terrible level of communication and support, I would be severely concerned about what happens if you actually get a car in September. There is no Polestar UK, no dealerships, one person on the end of a phone (after you have to stay on hold for a while)....what happens when something goes wrong with the car, which is not unrealistic given it is a brand new car? I can foresee be stranded somewhere with a confused looking AA person shrugging their shoulders going "mmm....electric Polestar...not sure what to do here".
Wanted to be really excited but hasn't turned out that way. Maybe just me!
jason61c said:
virage11 said:
I have to admit to being gradually underwhelmed.
I placed an initial deposit back in February 2019 as thought the 2 could be a fantastic option vs Tesla (I just do not like their interior and exterior designs). Initial reviews have been very good - I think the product itself is great.
However, the whole customer experience has been terrible. I think I have called and emailed at least 15 times over the last six months requesting updates on pricing, delivery etc. For example, I remember getting an email about test drives probably 6 months ago - but the link to book never worked - and when queried several times over a couple of months, was just told this should be happening soon and they didn't know why the booking link didn't work!
More recently Covid has clearly been felt - but the message on Polestar's press feeds was that Covid did not impact production. Leasing companies started to advertise rates of around £450 per month (inc VAT) on 24 month deals from around two months ago but could not confirm delivery dates / ordering (understandably given Polestar UK - which seems to be one person as far as I can tell) equally has been unable to confirm anything. We finally now have finance figures released (three weeks after the government approved EV grant status) which are rather more than originally mentioned. Equally the process seems to just send you to a leasing company directly - I am sorry but does not work in my opinion for a new premium product launch. Fair enough, after confirming spec, delivery target etc. then being sent to a leasing company should you choose to go down the leasing route but not at the start.
Given the pretty terrible level of communication and support, I would be severely concerned about what happens if you actually get a car in September. There is no Polestar UK, no dealerships, one person on the end of a phone (after you have to stay on hold for a while)....what happens when something goes wrong with the car, which is not unrealistic given it is a brand new car? I can foresee be stranded somewhere with a confused looking AA person shrugging their shoulders going "mmm....electric Polestar...not sure what to do here".
Wanted to be really excited but hasn't turned out that way. Maybe just me!
I'd put money on being given a volvo if there's any issues. some press things have said selected volvo dealerships will lookafter servicing.I placed an initial deposit back in February 2019 as thought the 2 could be a fantastic option vs Tesla (I just do not like their interior and exterior designs). Initial reviews have been very good - I think the product itself is great.
However, the whole customer experience has been terrible. I think I have called and emailed at least 15 times over the last six months requesting updates on pricing, delivery etc. For example, I remember getting an email about test drives probably 6 months ago - but the link to book never worked - and when queried several times over a couple of months, was just told this should be happening soon and they didn't know why the booking link didn't work!
More recently Covid has clearly been felt - but the message on Polestar's press feeds was that Covid did not impact production. Leasing companies started to advertise rates of around £450 per month (inc VAT) on 24 month deals from around two months ago but could not confirm delivery dates / ordering (understandably given Polestar UK - which seems to be one person as far as I can tell) equally has been unable to confirm anything. We finally now have finance figures released (three weeks after the government approved EV grant status) which are rather more than originally mentioned. Equally the process seems to just send you to a leasing company directly - I am sorry but does not work in my opinion for a new premium product launch. Fair enough, after confirming spec, delivery target etc. then being sent to a leasing company should you choose to go down the leasing route but not at the start.
Given the pretty terrible level of communication and support, I would be severely concerned about what happens if you actually get a car in September. There is no Polestar UK, no dealerships, one person on the end of a phone (after you have to stay on hold for a while)....what happens when something goes wrong with the car, which is not unrealistic given it is a brand new car? I can foresee be stranded somewhere with a confused looking AA person shrugging their shoulders going "mmm....electric Polestar...not sure what to do here".
Wanted to be really excited but hasn't turned out that way. Maybe just me!
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