Polestar 2

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squirdan

1,083 posts

147 months

Thursday 18th July 2019
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cc3 said:
Witchfinder said:
The price is likely to be about £50k including incentives which is pretty much the same price as the Performance Model 3. There's no way the Polestar 2 is going to match the PM3 for acceleration. I think the sacrifice will be worth it for a more premium quality build and features like matrix lights and Harman Kardon sound.

If it's £700 per month including tax, insurance, tyres, maintenance, and access to public charging, I think that's acceptable and broadly in line with what I expected.
Agree that would be an absolute max including the performance option pack. Anymore and I probably wouldn’t go ahead.
unless you are buying the car, which is not the case for the vast majority of UK new cars these days, the ticket price is largely irrelevent?

£699 a month including insurance and maintenance seems cheap to me

what other brand new 400bhp "super saloon" packed full of the latest technology can you run for £8.5k a year??

to my mind you'd do that in depreciation alone (and a lot more if you bought a brand new BMW M3 !)

OR - you'd be paying at least that but probably quite a bit more, to do a personal lease (plus a few £k deposit) As a rough and ready proxy: an Audi S4 -
the outgoing petrol one - just as a similar size, similar kind of thing... well thats £600 a month on a 36 month personal lease, plus 6 months deposit you dont get back ... thats just the car not the "all in cost", and its effectively the same monthly (£600 plus £3600 / 36 months)

if Volvo want to drive adoption or build the brand equity of Polestar this way - I'm all for taking advantage


Witchfinder

6,250 posts

252 months

Thursday 18th July 2019
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Once you take into account the savings on fuel (I reckon I'll save about £200/month on that alone), it looks very good.

anonymous-user

54 months

Thursday 18th July 2019
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Speaking of mileage, £700/month for how many?

If it's like those silly 5k iPace deals it's not worth much.

Witchfinder

6,250 posts

252 months

Friday 2nd August 2019
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Q: what is 1.4m long and fits in the boot of a Polestar 2?

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connoisseur21

55 posts

94 months

Friday 2nd August 2019
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Witchfinder said:
Q: what is 1.4m long and fits in the boot of a Polestar 2?

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lol, and all without using the 'ski' hatch.....seen at Trafford Centre?

Witchfinder

6,250 posts

252 months

Friday 2nd August 2019
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connoisseur21 said:
lol, and all without using the 'ski' hatch.....seen at Trafford Centre?
Yes. Very impressed with the car. Pricing sounds keen too - they suggested you'd put about 5% down (so around £2500 in the UK), and then pay £699/month for a three year contract that allows 60,000km (works out about 12k miles per year). At the end there would be options too extend, return, or possibly even buy the car. The monthly payment covers pretty much everything, so once you take all the costs into account, it looks very competitive.

Interior space was snug but ample for a family of four or five. The interior on show was the cloth from the 2021 "cheap" version, and not the premium Weavetech, so I can't really comment on that. Basic colour will be black, all others are optional metallics.

SWoll

18,369 posts

258 months

Friday 2nd August 2019
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Witchfinder said:
connoisseur21 said:
lol, and all without using the 'ski' hatch.....seen at Trafford Centre?
Yes. Very impressed with the car. Pricing sounds keen too - they suggested you'd put about 5% down (so around £2500 in the UK), and then pay £699/month for a three year contract that allows 60,000km (works out about 12k miles per year). At the end there would be options too extend, return, or possibly even buy the car. The monthly payment covers pretty much everything, so once you take all the costs into account, it looks very competitive.

Interior space was snug but ample for a family of four or five. The interior on show was the cloth from the 2021 "cheap" version, and not the premium Weavetech, so I can't really comment on that. Basic colour will be black, all others are optional metallics.
So basically a 3+ 35 PCH with maintenance included? £770 a month and a 3 year commitment seems expensive to me as maintenance costs on EV's are pretty low and assuming they don't include any charging?




Witchfinder

6,250 posts

252 months

Friday 2nd August 2019
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SWoll said:
So basically a 3+ 35 PCH with maintenance included? £770 a month and a 3 year commitment seems expensive to me as maintenance costs on EV's are pretty low and assuming they don't include any charging?
No idea about charging, but I'll save £200 a month on fuel alone even if I pay for all my own juice. I was looking for the quote but can't seem to find it. I do recall something around access to public charging being included.

Reckon I'll save £80-100/month on insurance, £20/month on tax, a couple of sets of tyres at around £800 per set, three services, an MOT.

All told it'll be about the same to run as my leased Volvo V90, only way better!

skwdenyer

16,488 posts

240 months

Friday 2nd August 2019
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It is interesting to compare this thread with the Tesla ones. Over there, posters are roundly criticised if they dare mention fuel savings in the context of justifying the monthlies, whilst over here we seem to have saner more logical heads smile

Witchfinder

6,250 posts

252 months

Saturday 3rd August 2019
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Let's be honest, price parity isn't there yet. If this or the Model 3 were a petrol car, it would undoubtedly be less expensive. I can live with that though, for the great technology, reduced emissions, and the general EV mental-acceleration smile factor.

The fact that it ultimately works out around the same cost to run is bonus. In a few years, EVs will be a lot cheaper to buy, and then the lower running costs will really come into their own.

If you're used to running a 1.0 Fiesta, you're not going to save a whole lot. Reducing your fuel bill from £60/month to £10/month isn't all that big.

I worked out I could probably run a Model 3 SR+ for the equivalent of about £200/month after fuel savings... But there's no way I could live with that boot.

oop north

1,595 posts

128 months

Saturday 3rd August 2019
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Went to have a look at the Trafford centre today. Looks pretty good though the performance model’s gold painted brake bits and gold seat belts are far from attractive to a shy, retiring chap like me smile

£55k for the performance model in the uk, available July next year. Reasonable size boot, decent interior, choice of non-leather interiors. If it had been around now I might have got one instead of the iPace. Though would need to drive one really. Certainly looks a good addition to the marketplace.

cc3

2,795 posts

116 months

Saturday 17th August 2019
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Will cancel my order if Chinese get heavy handed in HK

anonymous-user

54 months

Saturday 17th August 2019
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cc3 said:
Will cancel my order if Chinese get heavy handed in HK
What about all the Chinese stuff you already own and will no doubt be buying as well as a car?

I sympathise with your emotion but you’ll have to make far more significant change than just cancel a reservation on a car that’s not yet built, I fear.


jjwilde

1,904 posts

96 months

Saturday 17th August 2019
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Don't buy British because Brexit? /s

cc3

2,795 posts

116 months

Saturday 17th August 2019
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REALIST123 said:
cc3 said:
Will cancel my order if Chinese get heavy handed in HK
What about all the Chinese stuff you already own and will no doubt be buying as well as a car?

I sympathise with your emotion but you’ll have to make far more significant change than just cancel a reservation on a car that’s not yet built, I fear.
Understand that but if it gets worse will have to make a start and why not with the largest Chinese purchase I’m likely to make

anonymous-user

54 months

Saturday 17th August 2019
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jjwilde said:
Don't buy British because Brexit? /s
Or the opposite? Buy only British, or perhaps non EU, because Brexit?

anonymous-user

54 months

Monday 19th August 2019
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REALIST123 said:
Or the opposite? Buy only British, or perhaps non EU, because Brexit?
No, the opposite, only buy EU! Many of the people working in British manufacturing and farming supported Brexit and should be punished for that decision.

Or maybe we should just accept that most of the people getting hammered by these boycotts were likely conned or, in the case of HK, nothing at all to do with it.

anonymous-user

54 months

Monday 19th August 2019
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kuro68k said:
REALIST123 said:
Or the opposite? Buy only British, or perhaps non EU, because Brexit?
No, the opposite, only buy EU! Many of the people working in British manufacturing and farming supported Brexit and should be punished for that decision.

Or maybe we should just accept that most of the people getting hammered by these boycotts were likely conned or, in the case of HK, nothing at all to do with it.
They were punished enough by being in the EU before the referendum. After all that’s why we’re where we are, though there are other threads for that

cc3

2,795 posts

116 months

Witchfinder

6,250 posts

252 months

Wednesday 21st August 2019
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I have no idea what any of that means. "Glasses for your ears"?! Isn't that a hearing aid? Do you have to have a hearing test first? Sounds like marketing wk to be honest.

Article said:
“For example, you don’t want too much oomph in the base at Volvo because it doesn't have that kind of image and neither does Polestar,” he said.
I beg to differ sir, I like the buttery biscuit base.

Edited by Witchfinder on Wednesday 21st August 20:39