Looking at EV

[Aiminghigh123]

Ok I have an old Saab 9-3 aero driving about 25k a year it costs me £500ish a month in fuel alone.
My commute is 140 miles round trip.
I live in a flat so charging an EV at home currently it’s not possible however I can charge at work plus I have fleet services.

I like the sound of the Tesla 3 plus speaking with them at Westfield shopping centre they said I would be looking at around £550 a month on PCP 3 year deal.
Can charge at work for free plus fleet as Tesla fast charge.
I have seen golf do an electric as well.
So
My question is any other recommendations suggestions?
Would like 300ish mile range. Mostly use it for commute 25k a year.
£600 a month max.
Comfortable plus I do have a 2 year old as well.
Open to second hand market I have read about older Tesla models have some free charging or something.
Thanks.

[scottydoesntknow]

Model 3 is an absolute no brainer I'd have thought. Base model has a 254 mile WLTP range so you should be able to charge at work once a day even in the depths of winter. Fuel saving alone will pretty much pay for the car.

[Aiminghigh123]

That’s the idea.
They said I can have one for a week trial so seriously considering one or a second hand model s

[HalcyonRichard]

Have a look at https://www.evezy.co.uk/electric-cars/

Model 3 from £599/ month includes everything including fuel.insurance. servicing etc

basically hire by the month hand back with a months notice.

Edit mileage limited to 1250/month which may be the deal breaker

Edited by HalcyonRichard on Sunday 6th October 19:04

[Heres Johnny]

Buy a used 2016 i3 90ah Rex for £15k

Zero VED
Free charging means free to motoring
Depreciation largely all done so maybe £200 a month to run it.

Why spend more?

[51mes]

The Hyundai Kona and Kia e-nero sit at the 300mile plus range and are cheap - problem is therefore getting hold of one.

The Tesla Model 3 - LR with metallic paint - would come in over 4 years (significantly more over 3) at 6K down and under 600 an month (you can use the finance calculator on the tesla website), so fits and would get you on a good day 2 trips to work, or at least mean you have a level of flexibility about *having* to charge.

Model 3 does not have included supercharging though - and on a 7KW charger (most destination ones - eg. work) will get you ~20-30 miles per hour of range depending on the car, but if you can sit at work and charge all day - home charging wont be that critical.

Many but not all model S do get free supercharging, but it varies as tesla add and remove it from new cars as a sweetener - but remember all on trip charging eats into your day unless you can find something useful to do with that time (unlike destination charging), but leaving work at 5 or 6 with an hour plus journey and having to stop for a further 45 minutes to charge on your way home even if its not every day will soon be an irritation.

[poing]

Aiminghigh123 said:

I have seen golf do an electric as well.

The Golf won't even come close to your 300 miles range and wouldn't even mange your 140 miles in the winter.

The new VW ID3 might well do it if you spend enough but if you are relying on work and public charging then get a Tesla. Just make sure it's a proper charger at work and not a 3 pin plug you are talking about, even with a 7kw charger you'd be looking at over 12 hours from empty to charge a Model 3 so over double that from a domestic plug.

[RobDickinson]

~ 300 mile range ev's :

Model 3
Model S ( 85/100)
Kona
Eniro

~200 mile range evs:
Etron
iPace
EQC
38kwh kona/eniro/ioniq (i would avoid this ioniq tbh)
New Zoe/e208/ecorsa

Model S is a large car can seat 7 (5+2) more a cruiser, model 3 is a 5 seater downside is the boot but plenty of storage, more drivable.

For work charging S can charge at 16kw, 3 at 11kw, I think the new kona can do 22? Thats if your work has 3 phase.

On 7kw 32amp single the 3 will fill in about 10 hours at ~30mph.

[RobDickinson]

edit - also check out supercharger and CCS charging on your route, see whats available

10-50% on supercharge or 200kw CCS wont take long on a tesla, but if theres only 50kw that will take ages.

One advantage of the 3 (in tesla world) is it can use both

[Aiminghigh123]

Cool thanks for the help. I have been following the EV tech definitely the last 2 years it has ramped up. I could maybe push my car another year but it’s getting on which is why I’m thinking rather than get another petrol/diesel just jump to EV.

Will check the charger at work it’s a proper installed portal about 12 of them but not sure the output.

I commute from London to Southampton along the M3. I believe fleet services has Tesla fast charge. The sales person said fast charge takes 20 mins but didn’t say how much it costs to use.

Edited by Aiminghigh123 on Sunday 6th October 22:30

[anonymous-user]

Heres Johnny said:

Buy a used 2016 i3 90ah Rex for £15k

Zero VED
Free charging means free to motoring
Depreciation largely all done so maybe £200 a month to run it.

Why spend more?

As someone interested in these, what’s the relevance of 2016 model specifically?

[RobDickinson]

Uk supercharging is currently 24p per kwh.
https://www.tesla.com/en_GB/support/supercharging?...

20min on a v2 will give you 40-50kwh if you are low on charge (10% or so) and are not sharing the charger

[oop north]

bulldong said:

As someone interested in these, what’s the relevance of 2016 model specifically?

Went from a battery of about 20 kWh to one of 30-odd kWh. So range up by 50%. I had one of the lower range models (December 2015) and 80 miles Normal range except on coldest days when down to 60

[Aiminghigh123]

Just checked the charge at work sadly they are 7KW probably explains why they are free.
So 8-9hr day would give me 56ishKW.

[RobDickinson]

Aiminghigh123 said:

Just checked the charge at work sadly they are 7KW probably explains why they are free.
So 8-9hr day would give me 56ishKW.

That's around 220 miles of range

[51mes]

Aiminghigh123 said:

Just checked the charge at work sadly they are 7KW probably explains why they are free.
So 8-9hr day would give me 56ishKW.

So you should be able to make a M3 work 8 hours @ ~30 miles per hour - is more than your 140 daily mileage.

your just flipping what most folks do on the head (charge in the day rather than home at night) - and for free as well ;-)

S.

[coach]

Search through the leasing companies. Look for a deal.

You should be able to get close to 450 inc vat, 3 moths down and 15000 miles on and SR+

[Heres Johnny]

oop north said:

bulldong said:

As someone interested in these, what’s the relevance of 2016 model specifically?

Went from a battery of about 20 kWh to one of 30-odd kWh. So range up by 50%. I had one of the lower range models (December 2015) and 80 miles Normal range except on coldest days when down to 60

Nope not that at all

2017 VED changed and on many i3 cars they trip the 40k threshold for luxury car tax meaning £310 a year VED as opposed to nothing. If you’re trying to run a car cheaply at under, say £300 a month all in, VED would be 10% of the cost if you had a post March 2017 car

Edited by Heres Johnny on Monday 7th October 08:18

[anonymous-user]

oop north said:

bulldong said:

As someone interested in these, what’s the relevance of 2016 model specifically?

Went from a battery of about 20 kWh to one of 30-odd kWh. So range up by 50%. I had one of the lower range models (December 2015) and 80 miles Normal range except on coldest days when down to 60

Thanks!

[Liggle]

coach said:

Search through the leasing companies. Look for a deal.

You should be able to get close to 450 inc vat, 3 moths down and 15000 miles on and SR+

Where?!

Looking at EV's myself OP right now, slightly lower mileage but the top choice as mentioned above for value is the i3 94ah Rex of late 2016 vintage. e-Golf leases are really cheap atm but right on the limit of my 100 miles a day, nevermind your 140 miles... that would get tedious!