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RobDickinson

31,343 posts

253 months

Saturday 30th November 2019
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Air purified by oversized disposable filters...

JxJ Jr.

652 posts

69 months

Saturday 30th November 2019
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jjwilde said:
Have you been following the refilling nightmares people have been having?
What's the issue, the limited existing infrastructure, the infrastructure being out of use, or something vehicle-specific?

SWoll

18,206 posts

257 months

Sunday 1st December 2019
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Nexo lease costs.



So £61k over 4 years and 20k miles. eek

imck

778 posts

106 months

Sunday 1st December 2019
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Very interesting. Please do update.

£80 to fill up for around 400 Miles.
Equivalent to around 28 mpg on Petrol.
5 Mins to fill up.

10 Sec to 60. Reasonable compared to a run of the mill stuff.

Clean Motoring without the need for a Driveway and Charging Station.
No range anxiety (once the Infrastructure improves).

£70K !!

jjwilde

1,904 posts

95 months

Sunday 1st December 2019
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JxJ Jr. said:
What's the issue, the limited existing infrastructure, the infrastructure being out of use, or something vehicle-specific?
There are numerous issues, a few of the green websites have been covering it. There is a facebook group for the owners and... it isn't pretty reading it. There are a lot of angry people on there. Many of them trying to get out of their leases.

jjwilde

1,904 posts

95 months

Sunday 1st December 2019
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SWoll said:
Nexo lease costs.



So £61k over 4 years and 20k miles. eek
OK wow. I knew they were expensive but who on earth would lease one of these over a Model3? Like can the usual Tesla haters come here please and give your argument for leasing this car?

anonymous-user

53 months

Sunday 1st December 2019
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jjwilde said:
SWoll said:
Nexo lease costs.



So £61k over 4 years and 20k miles. eek
OK wow. I knew they were expensive but who on earth would lease one of these over a Model3? Like can the usual Tesla haters come here please and give your argument for leasing this car?
Why do you assume that someone who isn't a Tesla fanboy might think this is a good idea, simply because he isn't a Tesla Fanboy?




jjwilde

1,904 posts

95 months

Sunday 1st December 2019
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REALIST123 said:
Why do you assume that someone who isn't a Tesla fanboy might think this is a good idea, simply because he isn't a Tesla Fanboy?
Well because every time there is an EV/Tesla thread on here Hydrogen being the future comes up (often with a dig at Tesla getting it wrong).

You're not a big Tesla fan are you? Would you rather have this car or an M3 performance?

Lt. Coulomb

202 posts

53 months

Sunday 1st December 2019
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jjwilde said:
There are numerous issues, a few of the green websites have been covering it. There is a facebook group for the owners and... it isn't pretty reading it. There are a lot of angry people on there. Many of them trying to get out of their leases.
Why would anyone start to lease a fuel cell vehicle with about 10 filling stations in the UK?...

jamoor

14,506 posts

214 months

Sunday 1st December 2019
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imck said:
Very interesting. Please do update.

£80 to fill up for around 400 Miles.
Equivalent to around 28 mpg on Petrol.
5 Mins to fill up.

10 Sec to 60. Reasonable compared to a run of the mill stuff.

Clean Motoring without the need for a Driveway and Charging Station.
No range anxiety (once the Infrastructure improves).

£70K !!
20p a mile and there's no duty on the fuel

Will the price of hydrogen decrease with time or anything like that?

Throttle Body

444 posts

172 months

Sunday 1st December 2019
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The OP looks to have swallowed a brave pill. I shall be very interested to see how he gets on with the car because I thought that fuel cells lack durability, lasting, maybe 12 or 18 months before needing replacement. Fuel cell cars are very expensive because the fuel cell itself costs about 10 times that of an IC engine, and about 3 times the motor/batteries of an electric car.

So, jimbouk, I wish you well, and look forward to hearing of your experience.

RobDickinson

31,343 posts

253 months

Sunday 1st December 2019
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Throttle Body said:
The OP looks to have swallowed a brave pill.
Its a corporate lease so I guess so long as you have a local filling station you should be OK.

I cant see price of H2 falling at all for a long time tbh

Dave Hedgehog

14,541 posts

203 months

Sunday 1st December 2019
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jimbouk said:
It’s not a test drive!

We have got it as a pool car for the next three years, think it is the first corporate lease.

Yes I’m sure fuelling maybe an issue, but heyho. Reckon we might encourage some more hydrogen fuelling stations to be built.

Teslas certainly have there place, but this a different take on the future. Someone needs to try it and there is a strange feeling actually purifying the air as you drive!
It needs to as steam forming the hydrogen produces more pollution than burning diesel lol

RobDickinson

31,343 posts

253 months

Sunday 1st December 2019
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I doubt it removes CO2, just dust, because dust will kill the fuel cell.

gangzoom

6,251 posts

214 months

Monday 2nd December 2019
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jjwilde said:
Well because every time there is an EV/Tesla thread on here Hydrogen being the future comes up (often with a dig at Tesla getting it wrong).

You're not a big Tesla fan are you? Would you rather have this car or an M3 performance?
Regardless of what people think of Tesla am really keen to hear how the OP gets on with this car.

All the real world reports in California suggest fuelling these things are far from easy, which is their only real advantage over an BEV.

Be really interesting to see how the OP gets on, doing 30 miles a day that car will need fuelling by the end of this week or next I would have thought.

We don't need another thread on Tesla, but one of real life experiences of hydrogen fuel cell practicality would be great smile.

RobDickinson

31,343 posts

253 months

Monday 2nd December 2019
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Yep agree!

jimbouk

Original Poster:

430 posts

193 months

Wednesday 4th December 2019
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So I refuelled today for the first time, car alerted me on the way that the range was down to 45 miles and have me directions to the fuelling station.

Turned up put fuel card in machine, entered PIN, locked the fuelling nozzle on to the fuel tank connector, pressed the start button, bit of whirring as pressure built up behind the machine, a loud bang as the valve opened.

2 minutes later full of hydrogen, released nozzle, card back in machine, receipt printed. Range circa 330 miles.

Easier than a petrol pay at the pump machine, didn’t have to hold the nozzle while fuelling or pour it over my shoes...


JD

2,769 posts

227 months

Wednesday 4th December 2019
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jimbouk said:
So I refuelled today for the first time, car alerted me on the way that the range was down to 45 miles and have me directions to the fuelling station.

Turned up put fuel card in machine, entered PIN, locked the fuelling nozzle on to the fuel tank connector, pressed the start button, bit of whirring as pressure built up behind the machine, a loud bang as the valve opened.

2 minutes later full of hydrogen, released nozzle, card back in machine, receipt printed. Range circa 330 miles.

Easier than a petrol pay at the pump machine, didn’t have to hold the nozzle while fuelling or pour it over my shoes...

How much for the fill up?

And do you know how many cars it can charge in an hour?

jamoor

14,506 posts

214 months

Wednesday 4th December 2019
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JD said:
jimbouk said:
So I refuelled today for the first time, car alerted me on the way that the range was down to 45 miles and have me directions to the fuelling station.

Turned up put fuel card in machine, entered PIN, locked the fuelling nozzle on to the fuel tank connector, pressed the start button, bit of whirring as pressure built up behind the machine, a loud bang as the valve opened.

2 minutes later full of hydrogen, released nozzle, card back in machine, receipt printed. Range circa 330 miles.

Easier than a petrol pay at the pump machine, didn’t have to hold the nozzle while fuelling or pour it over my shoes...

How much for the fill up?

And do you know how many cars it can charge in an hour?
Surely its 60 mins dividec by 2 minutes give or take?

Unless there's some other restriction.

JD

2,769 posts

227 months

Wednesday 4th December 2019
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It’s ok I googled it.

Assuming that’s Swindon.

Pump stores 45kg so that’s 7 cars worth (6.3kg per tank).

And can make more at a rate of a tankful every 1.5 hours.