i Pace range

[Pvapour]

201 mile (323km) range 100% charged this morning (-4°)

Traveled 24.7 km (+ 20 mins pre heat to 25°)

Range left - 295 km, so 28 km of range used, im guessing the heating would have used some, maybe 2km?

So not far out accuracy wise (not set date on car yet)

Edited by Pvapour on Tuesday 3rd December 11:02

Edited by Pvapour on Tuesday 3rd December 11:04

[Amateurish]

Max_Torque said:

39.50 kWh/100km WOW!


I'd rate my i3 consumption as "terrible" when it gets to about half of that....

That's miles, not km. It's a very different proposition to an i3 (I've owned both).

Here's my outbound journey earlier that same day when I was in a lot of traffic.

Edited by Amateurish on Tuesday 3rd December 11:15

[ds666]

Can't you put " miles/kwh " .... i'm used to miles per gallon !

[ds666]

red_slr said:

What charging rate was that on ? I rarely fill up away from home but , for example , on a 50kw/h charger , starting at 50% it said over 2 hours to complete . Is that because after 80% the rate drops ?

[dmsims]

ds666 said:

Is that because after 80% the rate drops ?

The rate starts to drop at 30%

[red_slr]

ds666 said:

red_slr said:

What charging rate was that on ? I rarely fill up away from home but , for example , on a 50kw/h charger , starting at 50% it said over 2 hours to complete . Is that because after 80% the rate drops ?

No idea sorry, but it was pulling 82 amps at the start not sure at the end if that helps. This was towards the end.

CCS charger.

Also something I never realised is that Ecotricity ration their electrons. You get 45 mins of charge and that's it. After that it wont let you pull any more.

[Andy M]

Do you heat the car while it is still charging?

The range has noticeably dropped in the cold weather for my Tesla S Performance (rated at 360 miles in normal weather, probably closer to 300 truth be told, I'd say I'm closer to 250 miles when the weather is close to freezing).

Heating the car for 10 minutes with the car still plugged-in prior to the journey helps a lot, so too does using the heated seats rather than having the heaters set above 21 degrees.

[Pvapour]

Andy M said:

Do you heat the car while it is still charging?

The range has noticeably dropped in the cold weather for my Tesla S Performance (rated at 360 miles in normal weather, probably closer to 300 truth be told, I'd say I'm closer to 250 miles when the weather is close to freezing).

Heating the car for 10 minutes with the car still plugged-in prior to the journey helps a lot, so too does using the heated seats rather than having the heaters set above 21 degrees.

Yes, heat while charging.

Range (as you can see above) has remained as stated 201miles at -4° (at least for us)

[Gregmitchell]

red_slr said:

Struggling to get over 140 miles on a full charge even with cruise control set at 65mph on the motorway. Anyone else having this problem? If I stop at a CCS charger the most range I can get in 45 mins is about 70 miles. This cant be right?

I am loathed to put it into the dealer as I know I will probably not see it again for weeks.

Is there any kind of calibration I can do?

Sounds like there's something wrong with your car, I've had mine a week and get 200 miles even with the current low temperature and not pre heating the batteries, 2.4 - 2.5 miles per kwh on my 55 miles each way commute, hills, fast dual carriageway and a roads. I have about 100 miles range left when i get home.... some people have reported not having the full battery capacity on their cars... maybe you've got that problem? What does your Jauguar Remote app give you on the energy consumption?

[ds666]

Gregmitchell said:

red_slr said:

Struggling to get over 140 miles on a full charge even with cruise control set at 65mph on the motorway. Anyone else having this problem? If I stop at a CCS charger the most range I can get in 45 mins is about 70 miles. This cant be right?

I am loathed to put it into the dealer as I know I will probably not see it again for weeks.

Is there any kind of calibration I can do?

Sounds like there's something wrong with your car, I've had mine a week and get 200 miles even with the current low temperature and not pre heating the batteries, 2.4 - 2.5 miles per kwh on my 55 miles each way commute, hills, fast dual carriageway and a roads. I have about 100 miles range left when i get home.... some people have reported not having the full battery capacity on their cars... maybe you've got that problem? What does your Jauguar Remote app give you on the energy consumption?

In a poll of 3 users ( brother in law who drives flat out everywhere ) , business partner and me , all of us get a 201 predicted range , whatever ....
My experience is sustained motorway driving at high speed really eats the miles . Anything over more than 65mph and the range drops quicker than the miles .
Loving the matrix lights .

[Gregmitchell]

ds666 said:

In a poll of 3 users ( brother in law who drives flat out everywhere ) , business partner and me , all of us get a 201 predicted range , whatever ....
My experience is sustained motorway driving at high speed really eats the miles . Anything over more than 65mph and the range drops quicker than the miles .
Loving the matrix lights .

Mine gets about 10% more than yours with heating on and cold weather we've been having, plus some motorway etc on my commute... maybe i have more up to date software on my MY20? I'm really impressed with the range, much better than i expected.

[red_slr]

I did not precondition as we had only just enough battery to get from A to B on this particular drive.

It was very cold I will admit, it was showing -7c when we set off.

Had to stop at the services to put some charge in as it was clear we were not going to make it.

The total round trip was 152 miles over 2 legs (out and inbound) with a slight detour on the way back to get electric which made it a smidge further.

On departure we had 100%, I forget the exact range it suggested I think it was 139 ish? I remember thinking OMG when I got in the car at 100% SOC only showing 140 ish miles.... (just to be clear I don't often drive the thing!)

On arrival after 76 miles we were down to 42%. We set off back (-7c) on 42% and we were down at mid 30% by the time we got to the first service station. Thankfully there was a free fast charger. 45 mins put it back to 69%. Total distance to run now 69 miles, and we arrived back on 20% with 22 miles showing remaining. (should have been 17 according to the computer so must have had a bit of regen along the way)

So overall we used about (by my maths) 115% charge to do roughly lets call it 160 miles. Or 1.39 miles per %.

This brings me back to 139 miles at 100% when we set off which is spooky to say the least.

Very disappointing tbh but very unusual for us to make a trip of this distance normally <20-30 miles per trip.

[JD]

Reading 201 miles range is a bug and the display isn’t calculating anything.

https://static.nhtsa.gov/odi/tsbs/2019/MC-10163101...

That’s the Jag service bulletin.

[ds666]

JD said:

Reading 201 miles range is a bug and the display isn’t calculating anything.

https://static.nhtsa.gov/odi/tsbs/2019/MC-10163101...

That’s the Jag service bulletin.

Thanks for that - mine has been back for a software update recently but it obviously didn't update this !

[oop north]

ds666 said:

Thanks for that - mine has been back for a software update recently but it obviously didn't update this !

The most recent software update on mine created the 201 mile range display bug!

I have an hse with 20” wheels so anyone with 18” should be doing maybe 10% better than me - current achievable range is around 160-170 miles. Summer was 200. I could probably get as low as 140 in very very cold weather - managed equivalent to about 160 miles on trip to/from Edinburgh with temp generally 3-4 degrees but below 0 for 20 miles or so on way there when I was driving briskly.

Simon - do you have a charger at home? Slow charging to 100% can get more range (cell balancing)

[red_slr]

oop north said:

The most recent software update on mine created the 201 mile range display bug!

I have an hse with 20” wheels so anyone with 18” should be doing maybe 10% better than me - current achievable range is around 160-170 miles. Summer was 200. I could probably get as low as 140 in very very cold weather - managed equivalent to about 160 miles on trip to/from Edinburgh with temp generally 3-4 degrees but below 0 for 20 miles or so on way there when I was driving briskly.

Simon - do you have a charger at home? Slow charging to 100% can get more range (cell balancing)

It lives in work but sits on 13a socket so its almost always at full charge. This was the first time I have taken it any kind of distance.
From what I have read today I think the range we saw was fairly typical in very cold conditions with the heater on.

[Pvapour]

May be a bug but it seems correct

[oop north]

red_slr said:

It lives in work but sits on 13a socket so its almost always at full charge. This was the first time I have taken it any kind of distance.
From what I have read today I think the range we saw was fairly typical in very cold conditions with the heater on.

140 doesn’t seem right to me on 18” wheels - there seems to be a pretty wide range of experience though. I would be letting the battery run down a bit from time to time. Although jaguar will have protected it for owners I would have thought it would do it good to run it down reasonably regularly - sounds like you are keeping it on charge all the time. I charge mine 2 or 3 times a week (unless doing a long trip when it can be that many times a day!). Might be worth joining the iPace group on Facebook. There are people on there who know what they are taking about (unlike me!). They would know how to phrase to a dealer and what to check for.

There are people who are still getting over 200 miles even in the cold

[Pvapour]

There certainly are

Why the big differential on range achieved, surely not the way its charged, we rarely go below 70% and its plugged in all the time but achieving 200 even in this -4°

Edited by Pvapour on Tuesday 3rd December 21:20

[ds666]

JD said:

Reading 201 miles range is a bug and the display isn’t calculating anything.

https://static.nhtsa.gov/odi/tsbs/2019/MC-10163101...

That’s the Jag service bulletin.

Apparently there is a recall out now - mine is booked in Friday for the update thanks