Tesla and Uber Unlikely to Survive (Vol. 2)
Discussion
hyphen said:
Why do the kids like it?
Another way to ask that question may be why do adult owners of theses cars like them?As I pulled into the drive today after taking my daughter swimming she fell asleep, my wife was still out finishing her xMas shopping. Rather than risk moving/waking up a tired toddler, I pressed the 'Music' profile on the car's seat memory setting, and proceeded to enjoy chilling to some tunes whilst sitting in a lovely, heated reclined seat, whilst enjoying a lovely panoramic view of outside world with the interior temp set to 23 degrees and a sound system not far off Hi-Fi quality, all without the rattle of an idling combustion engine.
When my wife arrived she realised she didn't have everything so we than pop back to the shops, in total I think I probably spent a good 90 minutes in the car even though we only drove about 10 miles, the tech just works and these cars are simply really nice places to spend time in, which ultimately is why virtually every single owner survey show amazing customer loyalty to the brand despite the numerous issues reported with reliability/service centre issues etc.
What ever you think of the Tesla brand, the customer loyalty they have is second to none, as much as I wish Musk would stop acting like a con man, and Tesla start building cars that don't fall apart as soon they leave the factory, I cannot see us buying another brand any time soon.
Edited by gangzoom on Saturday 21st December 18:13
gangzoom said:
and Tesla start building cars that don't fall apart as soon they leave the factory, I cannot see us buying another brand any time soon.
Sadly thats far from unique to tesla, established players with infinitely more experience still make a 
of it. Had a new mercedes and 2 new vag products that have had ridiculously poor build quality and niggly faults from low quality parts, and one of my customers had a mclaren demonstrator with all the exterior lights steamed up and shoddy fit and finish on lots of bits of trim. He wasn't impressed.Toyotas hybrids have a lot more faults than their ICE vehicles so I would be inclined to give Tesla a bit of wiggle room on that front, they are constantly redesigning parts to address the problems, I'm sure they will get the hang of it.
gangzoom said:
hyphen said:
Why do the kids like it?
Another way to ask that question may be why do adult owners of theses cars like them?As I pulled into the drive today after taking my daughter swimming she fell asleep, my wife was still out finishing her xMas shopping. Rather than risk moving/waking up a tired toddler, I pressed the 'Music' profile on the car's seat memory setting, and proceeded to enjoy chilling to some tunes whilst sitting in a lovely, heated reclined seat, whilst enjoying a lovely panoramic view of outside world with the interior temp set to 23 degrees and a sound system not far off Hi-Fi quality, all without the rattle of an idling combustion engine.
When my wife arrived she realised she didn't have everything so we than pop back to the shops, in total I think I probably spent a good 90 minutes in the car even though we only drove about 10 miles, the tech just works and these cars are simply really nice places to spend time in, which ultimately is why virtually every single owner survey show amazing customer loyalty to the brand despite the numerous issues reported with reliability/service centre issues etc.
What ever you think of the Tesla brand, the customer loyalty they have is second to none, as much as I wish Musk would stop acting like a con man, and Tesla start building cars that don't fall apart as soon they leave the factory, I cannot see us buying another brand any time soon.
Edited by gangzoom on Saturday 21st December 18:13
The heating of the cabin without the engine is a real bonus
jamoor said:
This, I sat in my car for an hour waiting for someone. It’s heated, I have Netflix, usb charging, heated seats.
The heating of the cabin without the engine is a real bonus
Teslas havent come down into my price range yet, but this winter my heated seats and eberspecher have been my favourite extras in my van, I didnt anticipate just how good it would be to turn the heater on from my bed so its toasty and defrosted on leaving for work, or to call the van from a cherrypicker where I cant feel my fingers anymore and have somewhere warm to retreat to. The heating of the cabin without the engine is a real bonus
Roll on the older models depreciating to the point where I can justify a salvage model s, cant wait to tinker with one, I love fixing electrical faults.
Dragging this thread back on topic.... Uber being threatened with a ban in Germany.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-50865154
..and off topic... we had Eberspachers to keep our place warm for a few years, still have fond memories of the noise when those things started up and blasted us with hot air.
The thing with the great loyalty for Teslas from their core group is that they're operating with huge debt and massively over-valued stock for their current scale. You can have people who absolutely swear by the cars you make, but it doesn't translate to long term growth (*cough* Lotus *cough*).
I asked our kid what he thought of Tesla (15 year old boy). "The new one is really dumb" was his answer, followed with "cars are just cars..".
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-50865154
..and off topic... we had Eberspachers to keep our place warm for a few years, still have fond memories of the noise when those things started up and blasted us with hot air.
The thing with the great loyalty for Teslas from their core group is that they're operating with huge debt and massively over-valued stock for their current scale. You can have people who absolutely swear by the cars you make, but it doesn't translate to long term growth (*cough* Lotus *cough*).
I asked our kid what he thought of Tesla (15 year old boy). "The new one is really dumb" was his answer, followed with "cars are just cars..".
jamoor said:
This, I sat in my car for an hour waiting for someone. It’s heated, I have Netflix, usb charging, heated seats.
The heating of the cabin without the engine is a real bonus
How do you feel about the upcoming monthly charge for premium data? The heating of the cabin without the engine is a real bonus
As without it your Netflix and everything other connected thing bar sat nav will stop working I think (unless you ordered before June 2018).
gangzoom said:
Another way to ask that question may be why do adult owners of theses cars like them?
As I pulled into the drive today after taking my daughter swimming she fell asleep, my wife was still out finishing her xMas shopping. Rather than risk moving/waking up a tired toddler, I pressed the 'Music' profile on the car's seat memory setting, and proceeded to enjoy chilling to some tunes whilst sitting in a lovely, heated reclined seat, whilst enjoying a lovely panoramic view of outside world with the interior temp set to 23 degrees and a sound system not far off Hi-Fi quality, all without the rattle of an idling combustion engine.
When my wife arrived she realised she didn't have everything so we than pop back to the shops, in total I think I probably spent a good 90 minutes in the car even though we only drove about 10 miles, the tech just works and these cars are simply really nice places to spend time in, which ultimately is why virtually every single owner survey show amazing customer loyalty to the brand despite the numerous issues reported with reliability/service centre issues etc.
What ever you think of the Tesla brand, the customer loyalty they have is second to none, as much as I wish Musk would stop acting like a con man, and Tesla start building cars that don't fall apart as soon they leave the factory, I cannot see us buying another brand any time soon.
As I pulled into the drive today after taking my daughter swimming she fell asleep, my wife was still out finishing her xMas shopping. Rather than risk moving/waking up a tired toddler, I pressed the 'Music' profile on the car's seat memory setting, and proceeded to enjoy chilling to some tunes whilst sitting in a lovely, heated reclined seat, whilst enjoying a lovely panoramic view of outside world with the interior temp set to 23 degrees and a sound system not far off Hi-Fi quality, all without the rattle of an idling combustion engine.
When my wife arrived she realised she didn't have everything so we than pop back to the shops, in total I think I probably spent a good 90 minutes in the car even though we only drove about 10 miles, the tech just works and these cars are simply really nice places to spend time in, which ultimately is why virtually every single owner survey show amazing customer loyalty to the brand despite the numerous issues reported with reliability/service centre issues etc.
What ever you think of the Tesla brand, the customer loyalty they have is second to none, as much as I wish Musk would stop acting like a con man, and Tesla start building cars that don't fall apart as soon they leave the factory, I cannot see us buying another brand any time soon.
Edited by gangzoom on Saturday 21st December 18:13
Didn't realise the model 3 had a highly rated hifi OldGermanHeaps said:
People do seem to be buying them though, see loads around Glasgow now. I dont see anything else that compares in the imminent future, the mainstream manufacturers upcoming offerings all seem to comprimise somewhere.
Didnt save saab though.
I don't see many on the road, relatively speaking, growing number turning up on driveways in the neighborhood though. Not sure if they are base version or Long range though (ones I see all have the aero wheels which I think come on both)Didnt save saab though.
hyphen said:
How do you feel about the upcoming monthly charge for premium data?
As without it your Netflix and everything other connected thing bar sat nav will stop working I think (unless you ordered before June 2018).
Yes your free data ceases from Tesla (nav etc still fine and obv software updates) but all you do is set it up to use the phone hotspot. Most data plans are fine for a bit of Spotify these days. I already pay for 6gb for £10/month and don’t even dent it. With Spotify I use about a third of that. Netflix would be a bit more but other than the odd monthly wait I don’t think I would use. If at a supercharger I just connect to local Wi-Fi.As without it your Netflix and everything other connected thing bar sat nav will stop working I think (unless you ordered before June 2018).
hyphen said:
jamoor said:
This, I sat in my car for an hour waiting for someone. It’s heated, I have Netflix, usb charging, heated seats.
The heating of the cabin without the engine is a real bonus
How do you feel about the upcoming monthly charge for premium data? The heating of the cabin without the engine is a real bonus
As without it your Netflix and everything other connected thing bar sat nav will stop working I think (unless you ordered before June 2018).
coach said:
hyphen said:
How do you feel about the upcoming monthly charge for premium data?
As without it your Netflix and everything other connected thing bar sat nav will stop working I think (unless you ordered before June 2018).
Yes your free data ceases from Tesla (nav etc still fine and obv software updates) but all you do is set it up to use the phone hotspot. Most data plans are fine for a bit of Spotify these days. I already pay for 6gb for £10/month and don’t even dent it. With Spotify I use about a third of that. Netflix would be a bit more but other than the odd monthly wait I don’t think I would use. If at a supercharger I just connect to local Wi-Fi.As without it your Netflix and everything other connected thing bar sat nav will stop working I think (unless you ordered before June 2018).
Who's buying a £40k+ car and worrying about £10 a month?
SWoll said:
coach said:
hyphen said:
How do you feel about the upcoming monthly charge for premium data?
As without it your Netflix and everything other connected thing bar sat nav will stop working I think (unless you ordered before June 2018).
Yes your free data ceases from Tesla (nav etc still fine and obv software updates) but all you do is set it up to use the phone hotspot. Most data plans are fine for a bit of Spotify these days. I already pay for 6gb for £10/month and don’t even dent it. With Spotify I use about a third of that. Netflix would be a bit more but other than the odd monthly wait I don’t think I would use. If at a supercharger I just connect to local Wi-Fi.As without it your Netflix and everything other connected thing bar sat nav will stop working I think (unless you ordered before June 2018).
Who's buying a £40k+ car and worrying about £10 a month?
Ive never been impressed with the speed and performance of the onboard internet connectivity.
Edited by jamoor on Sunday 22 December 10:52
Looks like Tesla are on track to hit guidance, just about. 106k ish forecasted for Q4, which scrapes in at lower end of guidance, 361k for the year.
So one less promise broken, raising the average very slightly. Looking forward to seeing what FSD 'sneak peak' looks like. Better not be another timelapse vid!
So one less promise broken, raising the average very slightly. Looking forward to seeing what FSD 'sneak peak' looks like. Better not be another timelapse vid!
jamoor said:
SWoll said:
coach said:
hyphen said:
How do you feel about the upcoming monthly charge for premium data?
As without it your Netflix and everything other connected thing bar sat nav will stop working I think (unless you ordered before June 2018).
Yes your free data ceases from Tesla (nav etc still fine and obv software updates) but all you do is set it up to use the phone hotspot. Most data plans are fine for a bit of Spotify these days. I already pay for 6gb for £10/month and don’t even dent it. With Spotify I use about a third of that. Netflix would be a bit more but other than the odd monthly wait I don’t think I would use. If at a supercharger I just connect to local Wi-Fi.As without it your Netflix and everything other connected thing bar sat nav will stop working I think (unless you ordered before June 2018).
Who's buying a £40k+ car and worrying about £10 a month?
Ive never been impressed with the speed and performance of the onboard internet connectivity.
Edited by jamoor on Sunday 22 December 10:52
You aren't going to get unlimited data on a mi-fi or phone for £10 a month as far as I am aware.
SWoll said:
jamoor said:
SWoll said:
coach said:
hyphen said:
How do you feel about the upcoming monthly charge for premium data?
As without it your Netflix and everything other connected thing bar sat nav will stop working I think (unless you ordered before June 2018).
Yes your free data ceases from Tesla (nav etc still fine and obv software updates) but all you do is set it up to use the phone hotspot. Most data plans are fine for a bit of Spotify these days. I already pay for 6gb for £10/month and don’t even dent it. With Spotify I use about a third of that. Netflix would be a bit more but other than the odd monthly wait I don’t think I would use. If at a supercharger I just connect to local Wi-Fi.As without it your Netflix and everything other connected thing bar sat nav will stop working I think (unless you ordered before June 2018).
Who's buying a £40k+ car and worrying about £10 a month?
Ive never been impressed with the speed and performance of the onboard internet connectivity.
Edited by jamoor on Sunday 22 December 10:52
You aren't going to get unlimited data on a mi-fi or phone for £10 a month as far as I am aware.
I watched some action movies in my car. I’d say it’s a terrific experience like being in a cinema.
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