Tesla and Uber Unlikely to Survive (Vol. 2)
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SWoll said:
rjg48 said:
Tuna said:
SWoll said:
Indeed, having seen the specs and prices of the BMW iX3 and Audi Q4 E-Tron, Tesla must really be worrying about how they are going to sell any Model Y's..
They might worry some more if people sit in the iX3, Audi or Polestar and notice the difference in build quality 
The build quality thing makes me laugh, had nothing but German cars for the past 20 years and no end of both mechanical and trim issues with all manufacturers. Yes Tesla panel gaps aren't all great, the trim isn't the best quality etc. but after 8 months and 5k miles I can confirm the ownership experience is excellent and it still puts a smile on my face every time I drive it. Been a long time since I've had a car I could say that about.
To quote Jules Winnfield "personality goes a long way".
On the other points, if a car comes out from another manufacturer that suits me as an overall package better than what Tesla currently offer I'll happily change in a minute. Share prices and Elon's latest tweet mean less than nothing to me and I've go zero financial skin in the game as own no shares and our car is on a month by month subscription deal I secured at a ridiculous rate this time last year.
It would be nice if people didn't automatically assume you're a fanboy because you own/use a product and respond to certain ridiculous statements with actual experience. But then I suppose that's the modern world for you?
And after such a totally ahead of its time and brilliant piece of design as the i3 they unfortunately just end up making under-performing and over-priced shared platform stuff like the iX3 and quite likely the i4.
A real shame as a new ground up EV from a company with BMW's history and experience could have been something very special.
Over-styled anyone?
A real shame as a new ground up EV from a company with BMW's history and experience could have been something very special.
hyphen said:
Its relative, we have to be thankful nowadays for any bmw that doesn't have a humongous grill!!
It's still a bit too piggy for my liking and awfully dull but agree it's positively understated in comparison to the utterly pointless i4 'grill'.Over-styled anyone?
Edited by SWoll on Tuesday 14th July 19:37
REALIST123 said:
jamoor said:
Tuna said:
Isn't the worry that they took that long because they knew what the mass market wanted, and it wasn't EVs?
Why did they make the i3 thenAnother reason why the relative lack of success Jag have had with the iPace is a real shame as they rwally went for it and decided to develop around the advantages an EV drivetrain offers. 2 years old now and still a much more interesting/forward thinking car than the iX3 but then it's a sales flop apparently so what do I know?
Edited by SWoll on Tuesday 14th July 21:01
SWoll said:
REALIST123 said:
jamoor said:
Tuna said:
Isn't the worry that they took that long because they knew what the mass market wanted, and it wasn't EVs?
Why did they make the i3 thenAnother reason why the relative lack of success Jag have had with the iPace is a real shame as they rwally went for it and decided to develop around the advantages an EV drivetrain offers. 2 years old now and still a much more interesting/forward thinking car than the iX3 but then it's a sales flop apparently so what do I know?
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Brother D said:
SWoll said:
REALIST123 said:
jamoor said:
Tuna said:
Isn't the worry that they took that long because they knew what the mass market wanted, and it wasn't EVs?
Why did they make the i3 thenAnother reason why the relative lack of success Jag have had with the iPace is a real shame as they rwally went for it and decided to develop around the advantages an EV drivetrain offers. 2 years old now and still a much more interesting/forward thinking car than the iX3 but then it's a sales flop apparently so what do I know?
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dukeboy749r said:
I'm amazed it took this long."Autopilot" that isn't.
"Full self drive" that can't.
"This car will generate income as a robotaxi in the future" that probably won't.
Misselling is a thing. Given that the class action wolves are currently bombarding me with ads for "emmissions cheat" scenarios from VAG, Merc, Nissan and Renault - if this ever gets going it'll be crippling.
It's a shame, because to be fair on em, Tesla appear to have one of the most advanced driver assist systems out there.
Tuna said:
jjwilde said:
Imagine being THIS out of touch.
My sides!
Interested to understand why you think that? How is Tesla's supercharger network different from any other charger network in terms of generating income?My sides!
Of course in the leaf type car sector, it isnt so much an issue a smaller battery can be charged very quick on 50kw but the non-tesla network is an embarrassment.
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