How long have we got ??
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According to the national grid, never. Electricity consumption in the UK has been falling year-on-year for 15 years and whilst that trend will obviously reverse if EVs become mainstream, even at the most optimistic EV take-up estimates it'll be a while before we're even back where we were in the early 2000s.
We're going to need more power generation capability in the end, but that's decades rather than years away.
We're going to need more power generation capability in the end, but that's decades rather than years away.
Edited by kambites on Sunday 19th January 11:04
As the majority will be charged overnight it really won't be an issue.
It's going to be a long gradual uptake as they need to drop into the under £5k segment before a lot of the population will even think of them. Theres a lot more people out there with not a lot of money than those that can afford a new or almost new car.
It's going to be a long gradual uptake as they need to drop into the under £5k segment before a lot of the population will even think of them. Theres a lot more people out there with not a lot of money than those that can afford a new or almost new car.
jjwilde said:
Never? The National Grid say it isn't a big issue.
only if people are forced/successfully incentivised to charge at off peak times.A very large quantity of londons local grid is pre ww2, much of the power cuts you get are where its at the limit, especially so in areas where the housing capacity has increased way beyond initial design e.g. 6+ flats in one period house, extra houses/flats infilling etc. There simply isn't capacity to "get home, plug in car" as the evening is when its at peak capacity already, so the challenge is influencing peoples habits. The problem you're up against is a lot of people "want it now" - I've installed several 22kW tesla chargers. I think a lot of people hate the idea of not having "fuel in the tank" so to speak, if everyone gets home at 5pm and leaves the charger to auto charge at midnight that's fine, but for a lot of people if the car has limited range left they'll be thinking "what if..?"
coetzeeh said:
No, how much?
Here is a handy video telling you, short answer a lot, a crazy amount. Over 5,642,000,000 kwh a year. Now work out how many miles that would power electric cars for.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BQpX-9OyEr4
Edited by jjwilde on Sunday 19th January 12:30
mike-v2tmf said:
I live in london , there isn't enough parking where I live , ( no off street parking at all) how will charging leccy cars work here ? will we have mile long extension leads all over the pavements/roads ?
Firstly, even 150-200 mile cars don't need charging everyday. They can be rapid charged once a week to meet most people's weekly needs.Also, you can use streetlights, as many of them have extra capacity as the conversion to LED has massively reduced the electrical loading, or you can use bespoke kerbside solutions. Or a recessed channel for a power cable (least likely).
mike-v2tmf said:
I live in london , there isn't enough parking where I live , ( no off street parking at all) how will charging leccy cars work here ? will we have mile long extension leads all over the pavements/roads ?
No. There won’t be extension cords. And to be honest, nobody cares. You won’t have a choice, other than to relocate to somewhere with a driveway if you can or need. Fossil fuels will go, electric will replace. You are going public, transport, on a bike or by foot. Deal with it. Nobody is going to ask you - it’s just going to f
king happen. Why the hell do people think that the world is going to stop it’s enexorable march forward because they previously had an entitlement (insert whatever bullst agenda you want). Sort your st out.mike-v2tmf said:
I live in london , there isn't enough parking where I live , ( no off street parking at all) how will charging leccy cars work here ? will we have mile long extension leads all over the pavements/roads ?
You'll go to a garage and charge it once a week just like you do now for fuel. Actually you might be able to charge it while you go shopping for free. Latest chargers take about 20mins to charge. Possibility by the time you go EV it will be 10mins.I suspect that some people may be labouring under the misapprehension that a shift to electric cars making it harder to own a car in dense urban housing like London will be seen as a disadvantage by planners. From their point of view, it's not a bug, it's a feature.
While there will definitely be increased public EV charging infrastructure including kerbside, if I owned property which wasn't a viable place to own an EV, unless it was at either end of the market where people don't drive (DSS tenants or loaded city folks) I'd be looking to divest.
While there will definitely be increased public EV charging infrastructure including kerbside, if I owned property which wasn't a viable place to own an EV, unless it was at either end of the market where people don't drive (DSS tenants or loaded city folks) I'd be looking to divest.
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