Citroen AMI

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Esceptico

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7,334 posts

108 months

Thursday 27th February 2020
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Saw this on Autocar

https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/new-cars/citroe...

Seems ridiculous to me to allow such cars to be driven without a driving licence. I am pretty sure that hitting pedestrians at 26 mph could be fatal as could causing accidents with larger vehicles. This is not a bicycle and people driving them should have a licence. Plus with such a low top speed these are going to clog up the roads as you can’t overtake them as easily as bicycles either (even mopeds can generally get to the 30 mph speed limit.)

Krikkit

26,500 posts

180 months

Thursday 27th February 2020
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In France isn't it classed as a VSP?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-35210572

vixen1700

22,663 posts

269 months

Thursday 27th February 2020
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There are a fair few of these little kids' cars that you see in France.

leyorkie

1,634 posts

175 months

Thursday 27th February 2020
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It’s what you get to drive when you loose your licence from drink driving or speeding points.
It is a punishment

No ideas for a name

2,160 posts

85 months

Thursday 27th February 2020
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leyorkie said:
It’s what you get to drive when you loose your licence from drink driving or speeding points.
It is a punishment
Is this the case?
Is not requiring a licence to drive one, the same as being banned and still being allowed to drive one?
It might be different in France.

Pericoloso

44,044 posts

162 months

Thursday 27th February 2020
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You should see what under age kids can drive in Sweden ,a "Traktor" ,a full size, usually a Volvo ,converted to a

pickup for some reason but limited to 20 mph or similar.


Amateurish

7,696 posts

221 months

Thursday 27th February 2020
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No ideas for a name said:
Is this the case?
Is not requiring a licence to drive one, the same as being banned and still being allowed to drive one?
It might be different in France.
They are known as cars without licence "voitures sans permis". Driven by rich kids and old drunkards normally.

SuperPav

1,074 posts

124 months

Friday 28th February 2020
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Couldn't find any PH news or other threads on this, thought it was worthy of a GG thread...

https://www.citroen.fr/ami


They've only gone and bloody released the thing (after everyone said the concept was a bit crazy)
Appreciate it might cause PHers to froth at the mouth given it's electric and <30mph top speed, but nobody can accuse Citroen of losing their madness!




Headline stats for those who can't be bothered to look through the link:

€6,000
2-seater
5.5kwh battery (just over 40 miles range)
28mph top speed
Technically a quadricycle.

From an automotive product development background, what they have managed to achieve with regards to reduction in complexity is something most OEM's can only dream of (carryover front and rear bumpers, non-handed bodysides, non-handed doors and windows) - it's properly mental. This gives it an element of nerdy cachet!

Still don't know what to make of it, but I'd probably happily have one for running about if I lived in London or some such.

Riley Blue

20,907 posts

225 months

Friday 28th February 2020
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GreatGranny

9,097 posts

225 months

Friday 28th February 2020
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Love it :-)

Website is in French but is the PCP cost 3500 euro down payment then 19.99euro a month!?!

Equus

16,766 posts

100 months

Friday 28th February 2020
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Well, if the price is competitive, it would piss on the Twizy's chips, what with having a roof and two proper seats.

Range is insufficient to even get me to my local supermarket and back, though. frown

Gary29

4,131 posts

98 months

Friday 28th February 2020
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That would be an ideal commuting vehicle for me, 4 miles each way, on roads where a bicycle is not really a viable option due to safety concerns and keeping warm and dry in the winter to work in a office all day.


IforB

9,840 posts

228 months

Friday 28th February 2020
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Isn't it designed for the French VSP market? i.e kids who don't have a licence yet, but are allowed to drive something that is very restricted on range and speed.

RicksAlfas

13,354 posts

243 months

Friday 28th February 2020
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Esceptico said:
Saw this on Autocar

https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/new-cars/citroe...

Seems ridiculous to me to allow such cars to be driven without a driving licence. I am pretty sure that hitting pedestrians at 26 mph could be fatal as could causing accidents with larger vehicles. This is not a bicycle and people driving them should have a licence. Plus with such a low top speed these are going to clog up the roads as you can’t overtake them as easily as bicycles either (even mopeds can generally get to the 30 mph speed limit.)
hehe
France is a vast country with little rural public transport. These kind of cars have been common for decades. I think your froth is misplaced.

berlintaxi

8,535 posts

172 months

Friday 28th February 2020
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Esceptico said:
Saw this on Autocar

https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/new-cars/citroe...

Seems ridiculous to me to allow such cars to be driven without a driving licence. I am pretty sure that hitting pedestrians at 26 mph could be fatal as could causing accidents with larger vehicles. This is not a bicycle and people driving them should have a licence. Plus with such a low top speed these are going to clog up the roads as you can’t overtake them as easily as bicycles either (even mopeds can generally get to the 30 mph speed limit.)
Unless you drive regularly in France how is this going to affect you?

Richard-390a0

2,223 posts

90 months

Friday 28th February 2020
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Ugly as sin, but at that price I wouldn't care if I needed a tiny city car!

LuS1fer

41,080 posts

244 months

Friday 28th February 2020
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Certainly a massive improvement on the chuggy noisy ones they currently market which sound like they use a single or twin cylinder rear mounted engine.

However, in the UK you will need a licence and even if you could drive it at 16, no yoofs will pay 6000 Euros for a year.

As to their appeal to OAPs to pop down the shops, it has some merit but only if you can fit your shopping in. Depends on the VEL I suppose.

Disappointed in the styling. It lacks the cuteness if the original Mini, 500, new 500 or Twizy.

gforceg

3,524 posts

178 months

Friday 28th February 2020
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It needs one of these.


Amateurish

7,696 posts

221 months

Friday 28th February 2020
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RicksAlfas said:
Esceptico said:
Saw this on Autocar

https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/new-cars/citroe...

Seems ridiculous to me to allow such cars to be driven without a driving licence. I am pretty sure that hitting pedestrians at 26 mph could be fatal as could causing accidents with larger vehicles. This is not a bicycle and people driving them should have a licence. Plus with such a low top speed these are going to clog up the roads as you can’t overtake them as easily as bicycles either (even mopeds can generally get to the 30 mph speed limit.)
hehe
France is a vast country with little rural public transport. These kind of cars have been common for decades. I think your froth is misplaced.
Imagine his ire when he discovers that you can actually drive these cars at *14*, not 16 as the article suggests.

i prefer a flan

89 posts

49 months

Friday 28th February 2020
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Looks like a death trap.