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Zoon

6,701 posts

121 months

Wednesday 17th February 2021
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dmsims said:
but the ID3 lease he compared it to is 2 years

so a pointless exercise comparing apples to oranges
Not really it was an exercise to show you can lease an electric car for three years for roughly £1500 less than an id3 costs for two years.

Zoon

6,701 posts

121 months

Wednesday 17th February 2021
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dmsims said:
Zoon said:
I think I could live with that to save £181 a month.
But you aren't !
Sorry I stand corrected £168

dmsims

6,519 posts

267 months

Wednesday 17th February 2021
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Zoon said:
Not really it was an exercise to show you can lease an electric car for three years for roughly £1500 less than an id3 costs for two years.
But you didn't do that - you compared a 2 year lease (which is more expensive) with a 3 year lease

Zoon

6,701 posts

121 months

Wednesday 17th February 2021
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dmsims said:
Zoon said:
Not really it was an exercise to show you can lease an electric car for three years for roughly £1500 less than an id3 costs for two years.
But you didn't do that - you compared a 2 year lease (which is more expensive) with a 3 year lease
The contradiction in your statement baffles me.

zayn

544 posts

118 months

Thursday 25th February 2021
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my 2 year lease On Model 3 Performance is coming up soon so I am looking for an Alternative having had a Golf MK7 R in the past in both hatch and estate format so thinking of the next best to a M3

Anyone here care to share any deals on the ID 3 for 2 years

JEA1K

2,504 posts

223 months

Thursday 25th February 2021
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zayn said:
my 2 year lease On Model 3 Performance is coming up soon so I am looking for an Alternative having had a Golf MK7 R in the past in both hatch and estate format so thinking of the next best to a M3

Anyone here care to share any deals on the ID 3 for 2 years
I had a quote for 27 month contract, £2,387 deposit, £265 per month (all ex VAT) for a Life Pro Performance model.

I ended up going direct to VW in the end as I wanted 6 + 35 and Arval wouldn't provide so ended up paying about £1,700 deposit and £310 a month. Cars came from VW Exeter (we're nr Wetherby) and they were great to deal with, no messing around, just fill in a couple of forms, pay your money and the cars rocked up. My experience of both brokers was disappointing, where as previous broker for a Merc and 2 x Audi's were superb.

Both cars arrived Monday so only managed 100 miles in one. The car is exactly what I wanted ... its a commuting tool and feels comfortable enough to rack up the miles ... well, as many as it will let me before I am stranded with a flat battery wink

The acceleration feels quite comical ... probably as there is zero noise apart from a faint whine ... its no sports hatch, its v heavy, but I have my M3 when I want decent performance.


sjg

7,452 posts

265 months

Thursday 22nd April 2021
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Small battery (45kWh net / 217 miles WLTP) is out now. Base "City" spec is identical to the 58kWh Life spec.

List price is £28370 after grant, but discounts / finance incentives like VW always do - drivethedeal price is £24413.

kambites

67,560 posts

221 months

Friday 23rd April 2021
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sjg said:
Small battery (45kWh net / 217 miles WLTP) is out now. Base "City" spec is identical to the 58kWh Life spec.

List price is £28370 after grant, but discounts / finance incentives like VW always do - drivethedeal price is £24413.
That's pretty good. 217 miles is plenty for most people and sub-£25k is starting to get properly competitive.

Cupramax

10,480 posts

252 months

Friday 23rd April 2021
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Won’t do anywhere near that on a motorway run, the 58kwh model will only realistically do around 170 miles at motorway speeds.

kambites

67,560 posts

221 months

Friday 23rd April 2021
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Cupramax said:
Won’t do anywhere near that on a motorway run, the 58kwh model will only realistically do around 170 miles at motorway speeds.
I though the ID3 was quite efficient? That'd make it less efficient than the MG ZS (which gets about 130 miles from 42kwh), which would be disappointing.

ETA: Sorry the MG had a 44kwh battery, so similar efficiency. Still I'd have expect the ID3 to out-perform the ZS by some margin, looking at them!

Anyway, even if it only does 130 miles in poor weather at motorway speeds that is probably plenty for the majority family hatchback buyers. Especially given that it supports 100kw charging.

Edited by kambites on Friday 23 April 11:08

Cupramax

10,480 posts

252 months

Friday 23rd April 2021
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Have a look at Tesla Bjorn vids on YouTube, he’s done a load of real life range tests on the 58 and 77kwh ID3 and most other current EV’s.

kambites

67,560 posts

221 months

Friday 23rd April 2021
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Cupramax said:
Have a look at Tesla Bjorn vids on YouTube, he’s done a load of real life range tests on the 58 and 77kwh ID3 and most other current EV’s.
Yup, I'm not doubting your real-world range figures, I'm just surprised. smile

Cupramax

10,480 posts

252 months

Friday 23rd April 2021
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That 170 miles is at 120kmh though so possibly a little above what you might run on our wonderful “smart” motorways, at 90kmh it would do approx 230 miles.

Smiljan

10,838 posts

197 months

Friday 23rd April 2021
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Isn’t that 100% to stopped dead empty though I warm weather? The useable real range isn’t going to be great at all.

sjg

7,452 posts

265 months

Friday 23rd April 2021
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kambites said:
Anyway, even if it only does 130 miles in poor weather at motorway speeds that is probably plenty for the majority family hatchback buyers. Especially given that it supports 100kw charging.
This is it - eGolf (32kWh usable) has been fine most of the time for us. An extra 73 (WLTP) miles and 100kW charging is a big step up.

About the furthest I do is 180ish M4 motorway miles to south Wales for mountain biking - assuming I get charged overnight where I'm staying this would take it down to a 15 min stop at Chippenham Ionity each way (currently two stops, total of an hours charging).

The benefit of the bigger battery (58kWh) ID3 is just reducing that Ionity stop to 7 mins.

kambites

67,560 posts

221 months

Friday 23rd April 2021
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Smiljan said:
Isn’t that 100% to stopped dead empty though I warm weather? The useable real range isn’t going to be great at all.
Bjorn's test was at 12 degrees I think, so middling temperature. I think he ran from 100 down to 5% then extrapolated the 0% figure.

ecksjay

327 posts

152 months

Wednesday 28th April 2021
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Have an ID3 on the way, should be here in a few weeks. Apparently it's on the way from the compound to dealer to have the software update, so that explains all the chat on here about software etc.

Seems to be conflicting info on them, although from what i can tell, most people that have one have good things to say. The 'negatives' generally seem to be from people who haven't driven or owned one, comparing them to ICE vehicles that are so vastly different that it's not really a fair comparison to either machine.

This will be my first EV and actually, the first EV i will have driven. Have been out in a few teslas but never driven one myself. It's through the limited company so just taking advantage of BIK etc. Missed out on the good deals from a few months back, but im happy with it as its the spec I wanted (ice white, business pro performance model etc). It's likely going to be doing general family duties as i have an amarok on the business as my boat for bowling around in, so it'll be an interesting comparison to a 258bhp v6 pickup with oversized chonky offroad tyres and massive wheels. No doubt the misses will use it most.

Interesting and happy to see now everyone has home charger installs. I'll likely just be using the 3pin slow charger as 15hrs+ charge time isn't really an issue for us. I have access to some high speed chargers in a local business park that is within walking distance, so once i have the cards sorted for the various charging services, i'll likely drop it round there once every few weeks for a full charge (or more often if needs be). If i feel the need for a more powerful home charger install then i'll get one of those sorted - any excuse for another tax write off....

JonChalk

6,469 posts

110 months

Thursday 29th April 2021
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ecksjay said:
Have an ID3 on the way, should be here in a few weeks. Apparently it's on the way from the compound to dealer to have the software update, so that explains all the chat on here about software etc.

Seems to be conflicting info on them, although from what i can tell, most people that have one have good things to say. The 'negatives' generally seem to be from people who haven't driven or owned one, comparing them to ICE vehicles that are so vastly different that it's not really a fair comparison to either machine.

This will be my first EV and actually, the first EV i will have driven. Have been out in a few teslas but never driven one myself. It's through the limited company so just taking advantage of BIK etc. Missed out on the good deals from a few months back, but im happy with it as its the spec I wanted (ice white, business pro performance model etc). It's likely going to be doing general family duties as i have an amarok on the business as my boat for bowling around in, so it'll be an interesting comparison to a 258bhp v6 pickup with oversized chonky offroad tyres and massive wheels. No doubt the misses will use it most.

Interesting and happy to see now everyone has home charger installs. I'll likely just be using the 3pin slow charger as 15hrs+ charge time isn't really an issue for us. I have access to some high speed chargers in a local business park that is within walking distance, so once i have the cards sorted for the various charging services, i'll likely drop it round there once every few weeks for a full charge (or more often if needs be). If i feel the need for a more powerful home charger install then i'll get one of those sorted - any excuse for another tax write off....
Had mine since the beginning of the year - has been faultless - it's not perfect, no car is - but it is very good at its job; getting around cheaply and comfortably .

There are some software update horror stories (genuine) around, but there are those who forget the numerous horror stories on PH of problems with brand new ICE cars as well, because, well, it's inconvenient and doesn't suit their world view.

Be prepared for all sorts of EV sages to tell you you should have bought a Tesla (neglecting the huge price increase), or waited for the next shiny new thing that's even better (and more expensive, and not available now, and may not live up to the hype), or should have bought a secondhand Leaf (because, as they tell you, that's all YOU need).

If you're not on some form of reduced rate tariff, then there's nothing wrong with charging from 3-pin occasionally (you probably should keep an eye on the socket to make sure it's not getting hot - this could be a sign of less-than-ideal-quality wiring), however if you're intending to keep an EV for a while, then a wallbox will really save money combined with moving to a reduced rate overnight tariff - mine is about a third of the standard rate.

Other than that, enjoy it - there are quirks to learn - I've easily and quickly adapted to touchscreen use - some (many?) will tell how rubbish / crap / dangerous it is. It isn't. But it is different.

JEA1K

2,504 posts

223 months

Thursday 29th April 2021
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Well I experienced the red tortoise this morning. 6% battery after being left overnight and the motor would only give enough power to maneuver the car. The two charging points in my town were in use from 4pm yesterday, owners leaving their cars overnight until this morning. rage

Managed to crawl (and I do mean crawl) at 3mph across town, then get 41 miles in it to head to work 26 miles ... had to take a detour so ended up getting to work on 6% again, luckily only the orange tortoise came up which reduces power but not to walking pace. smile

essayer

9,065 posts

194 months

Thursday 29th April 2021
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Going into limp mode at 6% is surprising- that’s about 3.5kWh remaining. I’d happily set off for a ten mile round trip with that left in the Zoe biggrin