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Evening,
Going to move my wife’s 2018 X5 40d on to hopefully buy/lease an EV cheaply through our business... but my knowledge of EVs is pretty poor.
- X5 is quick (0-60 in 5.8), so want something similar or quicker.
- X5 is big, something similarly sized? Doesn’t really need off-road capability
- SUV style over saloon for kids, prams and dog in boot.
- Range 250 Miles +
- Happy for business lease payment to be up to £1000pm ish.
What’s out there apart from a Model X or iPace?
We want to buy via the company to take advantage of capital allowance and 0/1/2% BIK rates, so would be looking at full EV, not a hybrid.
Anything on the horizon for EV X3’s, X5’s, Range Rovers etc?
Cheers...
Going to move my wife’s 2018 X5 40d on to hopefully buy/lease an EV cheaply through our business... but my knowledge of EVs is pretty poor.
- X5 is quick (0-60 in 5.8), so want something similar or quicker.
- X5 is big, something similarly sized? Doesn’t really need off-road capability
- SUV style over saloon for kids, prams and dog in boot.
- Range 250 Miles +
- Happy for business lease payment to be up to £1000pm ish.
What’s out there apart from a Model X or iPace?
We want to buy via the company to take advantage of capital allowance and 0/1/2% BIK rates, so would be looking at full EV, not a hybrid.
Anything on the horizon for EV X3’s, X5’s, Range Rovers etc?
Cheers...
If you want a real-world 250 mile range in poor conditions, it's pretty much Tesla, Tesla or Tesla at the moment in that market sector. The iPace gets pretty close, but it wont do 250 miles at motorway speeds in freezing weather; if you're happy with having to drive a bit slower in really cold weather to achieve that range it's probably worthy of consideration.
Other options... The Rivian R1S looks like it would fit the bill. I think it's meant to be out later this year, although models from new companies always have to be taken with a certain degree of scepticism until they actually appear. The Model-Y might do it, or it might be a bit small. Not sure about the Mustang Mach-E, but again I think it should be this year.
ETA: There's the BMW iX3 due pretty soon, too, although it might be marginal on range.
In 18 months time this market will be flooded with cars, but right now there's not really much choice.
Other options... The Rivian R1S looks like it would fit the bill. I think it's meant to be out later this year, although models from new companies always have to be taken with a certain degree of scepticism until they actually appear. The Model-Y might do it, or it might be a bit small. Not sure about the Mustang Mach-E, but again I think it should be this year.
ETA: There's the BMW iX3 due pretty soon, too, although it might be marginal on range.
In 18 months time this market will be flooded with cars, but right now there's not really much choice.
Edited by kambites on Monday 22 February 20:48
Smaller and 190miles range so unlikely for you, but the new Lexus adverts are on billboards are all over the place currently.
https://www.lexus.co.uk/car-models/ux-300e/
As Witten said, you are a bit early though.
https://www.lexus.co.uk/car-models/ux-300e/
As Witten said, you are a bit early though.
Edited by hyphen on Monday 22 February 21:10
SWoll said:
I’ll take the bus 
BMW I next is coming but not the best looking (though on a video I watched it looked much better than in stills and maybe it will look better in metallic blue) and may be very expensive. iX3 is coming but rear wheel drive only. Nowt with 250 miles in winter - not ipace or merc EQC or Audi etron
Not sure if Rivian is actually coming to UK, or how much it will be - or when. Will perhaps be rather oversized for uk roads anyway?
Not sure if Rivian is actually coming to UK, or how much it will be - or when. Will perhaps be rather oversized for uk roads anyway?
SWoll said:
russy01 said:
I’ll take the bus
Well, you did ask you ungrateful bugger.I think the perfect car would be a EV Macan... Macan with the Taycan Turbo Guts and some more range would be lovely!
Ioniq 5? There is now a thread on here, and some more details in this article:
https://www.wired.co.uk/article/hyundai-ioniq-5
RRP a lot less than others mentioned, better range, efficient drivetrain/ packaging and a little bit different.
https://www.wired.co.uk/article/hyundai-ioniq-5
RRP a lot less than others mentioned, better range, efficient drivetrain/ packaging and a little bit different.
Edited by danp on Tuesday 23 February 10:00
danp said:
Ioniq 5? There is now a thread on here, and some more details in this article:
https://www.wired.co.uk/article/hyundai-ioniq-5
RRP a lot less than others mentioned, better range, efficient drivetrain/ packaging and a little bit different.
Funky little thing, although too small by the looks of it. I think I am bit early to be fair - the next 12months should bring some interesting cars. I wonder whether its worth hanging on...https://www.wired.co.uk/article/hyundai-ioniq-5
RRP a lot less than others mentioned, better range, efficient drivetrain/ packaging and a little bit different.
Edited by danp on Tuesday 23 February 10:00
How often do you genuinely want to drive 250 miles without charging?
the iPace would be perfect otherwise, it's similarly roomy, faster and imo, rather better looking and probably a bit better to drive than your current X5?
As the fast charging network improves, charging occasionally is fast becoming a bit of a nothing-burger. yes it would be nice to be able to drive for 500 miles in one go, but if the advantages of the EV outweight that small dissadvantage then it could be a sensible choice. IME, as long as you can charge at home, you'll spend much LESS time refueling your car than you currently do, and being able to drive away in the morning with a full battery and a warm and defrosted (or cool and airconditioned!) car is a benfit you soon would not be without ! (5 year EV owner talking here :-)
the iPace would be perfect otherwise, it's similarly roomy, faster and imo, rather better looking and probably a bit better to drive than your current X5?
As the fast charging network improves, charging occasionally is fast becoming a bit of a nothing-burger. yes it would be nice to be able to drive for 500 miles in one go, but if the advantages of the EV outweight that small dissadvantage then it could be a sensible choice. IME, as long as you can charge at home, you'll spend much LESS time refueling your car than you currently do, and being able to drive away in the morning with a full battery and a warm and defrosted (or cool and airconditioned!) car is a benfit you soon would not be without ! (5 year EV owner talking here :-)
Max_Torque said:
How often do you genuinely want to drive 250 miles without charging?
the iPace would be perfect otherwise, it's similarly roomy, faster and imo, rather better looking and probably a bit better to drive than your current X5?
As the fast charging network improves, charging occasionally is fast becoming a bit of a nothing-burger. yes it would be nice to be able to drive for 500 miles in one go, but if the advantages of the EV outweight that small dissadvantage then it could be a sensible choice. IME, as long as you can charge at home, you'll spend much LESS time refueling your car than you currently do, and being able to drive away in the morning with a full battery and a warm and defrosted (or cool and airconditioned!) car is a benfit you soon would not be without ! (5 year EV owner talking here :-)
250miles is just a number I plucked to be fair. I.e I want some flexibility as we travel about quite a bit in rural areas which currently have little to no infrastructure - but dont need 350+ long range Tesla models. the iPace would be perfect otherwise, it's similarly roomy, faster and imo, rather better looking and probably a bit better to drive than your current X5?
As the fast charging network improves, charging occasionally is fast becoming a bit of a nothing-burger. yes it would be nice to be able to drive for 500 miles in one go, but if the advantages of the EV outweight that small dissadvantage then it could be a sensible choice. IME, as long as you can charge at home, you'll spend much LESS time refueling your car than you currently do, and being able to drive away in the morning with a full battery and a warm and defrosted (or cool and airconditioned!) car is a benfit you soon would not be without ! (5 year EV owner talking here :-)
iPace. Not really doing it for me, spent a lot of time looking at them on AT last night.
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