Considering a Mustang Mach-E

[RM10]

Hi all,

I currently drive a Tiguan R-Line diesel that I originally thought I would buy at the end of my PCP. However, with the changing fuel landscape especially in relation to diesels, I am now a bit reticent about buying an expensive(ish) diesel in 2 years time. This coupled with the fact I don't love the car, being the R-Line on 20" wheels it's actually not that comfortable, and the mpg is quite poor (averaging around 38mpg) means I'm considering getting out of my PCP early. Luckily the fact I'm massively overpaying and doing about 20% of the miles I said I would means I can get out of the deal in a couple of months time.

I'm considering opting in to my company car scheme and getting an electric car, as with the tax benefits it would probably end up saving me quite a bit of money. That being said, pretty much the only electric car on the fleet I'd be interested in is the Mustang Mach-E. The rest just don't seem to have the battery capacity for longer journeys. When I say long journeys, specifically the drive to my office is around 160miles round trip, and there are limited charging stations in the car park - I'd like to be able to comfortably do that in one hit without any range anxiety.

Does anyone own one? What are they like? I've seen one or two driving around and watched a few video reviews - I really like the design, they seem like a very good alternative to a Model 3.

Edit: I may be being an idiot here, doing a google search it looks as though customer cars aren't yet being delivered? I have definitely seen one in my local town... perhaps it was testing! I'll rephrase my question to has anyone driven/tested one?

Edited by RM10 on Tuesday 2nd March 15:15

Edited by RM10 on Tuesday 2nd March 15:24

[SWoll]

Doesn't launch in the UK for another month so unlikely anyone here as driven one yet if not a press car.

The standard range RWD model should manage your commute year round without issue (273 miles WLTP) and looks a compelling overall package for £37k.

What other EV's are on your list out of interest?

[RM10]

SWoll said:

Doesn't launch in the UK for another month so unlikely anyone here as driven one yet if not a press car.

The standard range RWD model should manage your commute year round without issue (273 miles WLTP) and looks a compelling overall package for £37k.

What other EV's are on your list out of interest?

Yeah I obviously jumped the gun there! I saw it was available on the fleet and just assumed it had launched.

I don't really have many options on my list. I'm not even entirely sold on the idea of switching to electric if I'm honest. I do like the Polestar 2 (obviously a bit more money than the Mustang) but I haven't spent too long looking at alternatives. I'm not a huge fan of Teslas but their supercharger network is very appealing for me should I make the switch to an EV.

Following COVID I won't be making that commute every day, probably only once or twice a week. But it's essential to be able to do it comfortably without charging along the way.

[RM10]

I can get the Extended Range RWD through the company car scheme so I've taxed them with trying to get me a test drive. No idea whether that's possible at the moment, what with COVID and the limited number of models around currently.

If I do manage to get hold of one I will update you all with my thoughts here!

[NMNeil]

I checked out the display model at my local Ford dealer, not a test drive, just a look see.
$43,000 and a 230 mile range for the base model Mustang is putting many potential buyers off, when they can buy a base Tesla Model 3 for $33,000 with a 263 mile range.
https://www.ford.com/suvs/mach-e/
https://www.tesla.com/model3/design#overview
Even thought the Mustang is not available off the showroom floor, you have to order one and wait for it to be built; there's already a recall for loose subframe bolts
https://www.cnet.com/roadshow/news/ford-mustang-ma...

[off_again]

NMNeil said:

I checked out the display model at my local Ford dealer, not a test drive, just a look see.
$43,000 and a 230 mile range for the base model Mustang is putting many potential buyers off, when they can buy a base Tesla Model 3 for $33,000 with a 263 mile range.
https://www.ford.com/suvs/mach-e/
https://www.tesla.com/model3/design#overview
Even thought the Mustang is not available off the showroom floor, you have to order one and wait for it to be built; there's already a recall for loose subframe bolts
https://www.cnet.com/roadshow/news/ford-mustang-ma...

Mmm, where do you get the $33,000 base Tesla from?

The $35k Tesla was a special order model only that only a few people managed to get. It was as poverty spec as you possibly could get and even didnt come with mats! Its a good deal, but its going to be a challenge to get one. In fact, I am aware that they pulled it from the 'off menu' purchase anyway. So you cant get the $35k model any more. The cheapest one you can get is the Standard Range Plus and thats now $37,490 and in the US it no longer qualifies for the federal tax benefit.

The Mustang still qualifies for the $7,500 federal tax benefit, so you cant knock it off the price, but on the next tax return you get to realize it - so that does bring the price down overall pretty dramatically. The spec's are pretty similar though, with a broad similarity between the two though, but I suspect the Ford is a little higher overall.

The sweet spot though is slightly up on the range though. Both the Tesla LR and Mustang Premium are the better spec and better value, but the M3LR is probably the best overall value.

Edited to add - a closer comparison is the Mustang vs Model Y - which is still not available on the cheaper spec - so its a $49,990 starting price. And again, with no federal tax credit..... it doesnt stop the MY from selling, but suddenly looks expensive in comparison.

Edited by off_again on Thursday 18th March 00:11

[JonChalk]

NMNeil said:

I checked out the display model at my local Ford dealer, not a test drive, just a look see.
$43,000 and a 230 mile range for the base model Mustang is putting many potential buyers off, when they can buy a base Tesla Model 3 for $33,000 with a 263 mile range.
https://www.ford.com/suvs/mach-e/
https://www.tesla.com/model3/design#overview
Even thought the Mustang is not available off the showroom floor, you have to order one and wait for it to be built; there's already a recall for loose subframe bolts
https://www.cnet.com/roadshow/news/ford-mustang-ma...

it's much closer than that in the UK, the Tesla and the Mach-E are pretty much price-for-price.

[NMNeil]

off_again said:

Mmm, where do you get the $33,000 base Tesla from?

From the Tesla page that I posted.
Here it is again.
https://www.tesla.com/model3/design#overview

[off_again]

NMNeil said:

off_again said:

Mmm, where do you get the $33,000 base Tesla from?

From the Tesla page that I posted.
Here it is again.
https://www.tesla.com/model3/design#overview

MMm, something odd going on here. Are you looking at the purchase price or potential savings price?



Potential savings (Tesla arent the only one that does this) is a bit of fiction and based on preferential numbers. Really need to look at purchase price.