Tesla unlikely to Survive (Vol. 3)

Tesla unlikely to Survive (Vol. 3)

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anonymous-user

53 months

Thursday 21st April 2022
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They can sell every car they can make. Every single one. Ask non-car people to name an electric car and they say “Tesla”.

They have a history of rapidly pivoting to other solutions when supplies are an issue.

They’re going to be just fine.



gangzoom

6,251 posts

214 months

Thursday 21st April 2022
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NDA said:
I wonder if Tesla will survive?
Not a chance, have you seen the latest panel gaps issues!!! Oh and don't even think about trying to source parts for one repair as you will be waiting forever.

You have to be really special to think Tesla are anything but a pyramid scheme.

Ouroboros

2,371 posts

38 months

Thursday 21st April 2022
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i've never been on a fan of all the data Tesla collects about you, I like the idea of an EV but not Tesla. I do like the Lucid Air that looks very nice, and seems a good company as well.

JD

2,769 posts

227 months

Thursday 21st April 2022
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Ouroboros said:
JD said:
Their market share is still going up in every region.
14% , VW is 12%. All EV car manufacturers are increasing in market share.

There is definitely something fishy about Tesla numbers with that big margins , when manufacturing costs has increased massively, just doesn't make sense.
Ey?

Who cares about EV share, the market includes ICE and EV.

Page 7 has market share graph for you:

https://tesla-cdn.thron.com/static/IOSHZZ_TSLA_Q1_...

Ouroboros

2,371 posts

38 months

Thursday 21st April 2022
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JD said:
Ey?

Who cares about EV share, the market includes ICE and EV.

Page 7 has market share graph for you:
Ey?

Tesla is a EV car company, off course that makes a MASSIVE difference. There are limitations to EV growth, in uptake and manufacturing. You must have blinkers on to not see that it makes a big difference.

Many EU countries that have MASSIVE limitations in EV sales.

From the same source as the graph.

'' There is a serious lack of electric charging points along the road networks in most EU member states, according to new data from the European Automobile Manufacturers’ Association ''

https://www.acea.auto/press-release/electric-cars-...

Also

https://www.acea.auto/press-release/car-sales-retu...

Car sales: return to growth expected in 2022, but concerns on charging infrastructure persist

coetzeeh

2,641 posts

235 months

Thursday 21st April 2022
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JD said:
Ouroboros said:
JD said:
Their market share is still going up in every region.
14% , VW is 12%. All EV car manufacturers are increasing in market share.

There is definitely something fishy about Tesla numbers with that big margins , when manufacturing costs has increased massively, just doesn't make sense.
Ey?

Who cares about EV share, the market includes ICE and EV.

Page 7 has market share graph for you:

https://tesla-cdn.thron.com/static/IOSHZZ_TSLA_Q1_...
Great graph but of course shows market share in North America, China and Europe only.

There are ~70m new vehicles sold globally per annum of which Tesla sold 1m in 2021.

A great set of results none the less.

Petrus1983

8,521 posts

161 months

Thursday 21st April 2022
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At the moment the OP has lost out on a 1,500% return since his/her first post.

Smiljan

10,772 posts

196 months

Thursday 21st April 2022
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Despite this result the stock is down 16% YTD. Bizarre company.

ashenfie

704 posts

45 months

Wednesday 27th April 2022
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Tesla finances are something only real money men dream of, so out there few in the finance world can afford for him to fail. Those accounts are pure nonsense. The 150bn debt musk has is so tied up with Tesla it just waiting to implode. While he might be quote as the richest man in the world in fact he is the poorest most likely.

coetzeeh

2,641 posts

235 months

Wednesday 27th April 2022
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Smiljan said:
Despite this result the stock is down 16% YTD. Bizarre company.
a bit more after yesterday's rout.

ashenfie

704 posts

45 months

Wednesday 27th April 2022
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Tesla finances are something only real money men dream of, so out there few in the finance world can afford for him to fail. Those accounts are pure nonsense. The 150bn debt musk has is so tied up with Tesla it just waiting to implode. While he might be quote as the richest man in the world in fact he is the poorest most likely.

coetzeeh

2,641 posts

235 months

Tuesday 10th May 2022
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Amid reports that the Shanghai factory is facing a further slowdown the CPCA report that Tesla produced 10k cars in April having resumed April 19th.

https://money.usnews.com/investing/news/articles/2...


soupdragon1

3,966 posts

96 months

Tuesday 10th May 2022
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charltjr said:
They can sell every car they can make. Every single one. Ask non-car people to name an electric car and they say “Tesla”.

They have a history of rapidly pivoting to other solutions when supplies are an issue.

They’re going to be just fine.
I'm pretty sure all the other main car manufacturers are the same. It wouldn't really make business sense to build cars and then not sell them.

Petrus1983

8,521 posts

161 months

Tuesday 10th May 2022
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ashenfie said:
Tesla finances are something only real money men dream of, so out there few in the finance world can afford for him to fail. Those accounts are pure nonsense. The 150bn debt musk has is so tied up with Tesla it just waiting to implode. While he might be quote as the richest man in the world in fact he is the poorest most likely.
Where does the 150bn figure come from? I can see 27bn - which is very different.

Heres Johnny

7,175 posts

123 months

Wednesday 11th May 2022
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Nobody (like Rob or TBM) suggesting people should buy the dip?

coetzeeh

2,641 posts

235 months

Thursday 12th May 2022
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Heres Johnny said:
Nobody (like Rob or TBM) suggesting people should buy the dip?
Maybe they are waiting for the bottom?

Richard-D

751 posts

63 months

Thursday 12th May 2022
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coetzeeh said:
Heres Johnny said:
Nobody (like Rob or TBM) suggesting people should buy the dip?
Maybe they are waiting for the bottom?
They're probably happy in the knowledge that they never had any shares anyway and were just spouting crap on the internet.

TameBritishMuslim

172 posts

74 months

Sunday 15th May 2022
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Just filled this years ISA allowance again and added a few more to the 'normal' account.

Smiljan

10,772 posts

196 months

Sunday 15th May 2022
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Of course you have rofl

Seems your idol has been on the drugs again and forgot what he was up to last week.



Edited by Smiljan on Sunday 15th May 21:05

Ouroboros

2,371 posts

38 months

Sunday 15th May 2022
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and the deal looks to be falling apart.