I saw a parked iPace so went to a dealership
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I keep thinking about the future of being on the road and whether I could be tempted into electric. We've bought a couple of new Macans over the last few years and didn't think at the time, that as a family, we were ready for a EV. Now times are a changing. Today, I saw a parked iPace that looked great and caught my eye, so off I went to the local JLR dealer to find out what they're all about. I even went for a drive in one. As a true petrol head with a V10 R8, Macan and vintage Rolls, I just didn't know what to expect but actually found it surprisingly 'normal'. Apart from the silent crawl from carpark to road, I found the tyre noise and even depth of motor sound on the go, much the same as the Macan. In fact there was absolutely nothing about it that made me view it differently from an ICE car. I really liked it. Then I spied a black HSE with red leather and found myself requesting a quote. Oops.
Oh, did I say I'd be selling the R8 to finance it?
Oh, did I say I'd be selling the R8 to finance it?
Lord Flashheart said:
I keep thinking about the future of being on the road and whether I could be tempted into electric. We've bought a couple of new Macans over the last few years and didn't think at the time, that as a family, we were ready for a EV. Now times are a changing. Today, I saw a parked iPace that looked great and caught my eye, so off I went to the local JLR dealer to find out what they're all about. I even went for a drive in one. As a true petrol head with a V10 R8, Macan and vintage Rolls, I just didn't know what to expect but actually found it surprisingly 'normal'. Apart from the silent crawl from carpark to road, I found the tyre noise and even depth of motor sound on the go, much the same as the Macan. In fact there was absolutely nothing about it that made me view it differently from an ICE car. I really liked it. Then I spied a black HSE with red leather and found myself requesting a quote. Oops.
Oh, did I say I'd be selling the R8 to finance it?
Just do it. It's not going be a supercar but the inescapable truth is that for normal driving, it'll be more responsive and when you start to push it, you'll be amazed at what the low centre of gravity lets you get away with.Oh, did I say I'd be selling the R8 to finance it?
Go for HSE and I can't stress this enough... Air suspension and adaptive damping. It transforms the car and allows you the big wheels required to make it not look like a barge
And if you have kids, go for the four zone climate control. Without it there's next to no air circulation in the rear. Typical jaguar oversight.
CoolHands said:
Is it bad that up until this point I assumed Macan's were electric?
Nope, its just their mid sized SUV offering. It's the next inline for the full EV treatment though. Hardly surprising, their 911 'equivilant' Taycan EV immediately outsold their other sportscar offerings. Incredible given how traditionalist Porsche fans are.
TheDeuce said:
Nope, its just their mid sized SUV offering. It's the next inline for the full EV treatment though. Hardly surprising, their 911 'equivilant' Taycan EV immediately outsold their other sportscar offerings. Incredible given how traditionalist Porsche fans are.
The Taycan is a Panamera equivalent rather than a 911. 5 metres long, 4 doors, 4 useable seats, decent sized boot etc. SWoll said:
TheDeuce said:
Nope, its just their mid sized SUV offering. It's the next inline for the full EV treatment though. Hardly surprising, their 911 'equivilant' Taycan EV immediately outsold their other sportscar offerings. Incredible given how traditionalist Porsche fans are.
The Taycan is a Panamera equivalent rather than a 911. 5 metres long, 4 doors, 4 useable seats, decent sized boot etc. The fact it's also surprisingly practical is a bonus.
DMZ said:
But not in any way as practical as an I-Pace which is remarkably good to drive for something that takes five people in comfort. I would nearly go as far as saying it's the perfect family car, at least for a family that wants to travel at some speed. Good luck with the purchase.
I quite agree about the IPace. Fantastic all rounder, the best we've had.Regarding the sporty drive.. nobody could have convinced me it could possibly be as fun and dynamic as it is. And I've spent the last 20 years in purpose built fun/sports cars.
DMZ said:
But not in any way as practical as an I-Pace which is remarkably good to drive for something that takes five people in comfort. I would nearly go as far as saying it's the perfect family car, at least for a family that wants to travel at some speed. Good luck with the purchase.
Having had an ipace on 4-day test, are you sure about the 5 people in comfort? 4 = comfort, 5 = squeeze. And the boot is only ok, not massive for a family car - i think Jag quote 500 litres but the slope of the boot hinders it.But i loved the drive and i want one!
jimmytheone said:
DMZ said:
But not in any way as practical as an I-Pace which is remarkably good to drive for something that takes five people in comfort. I would nearly go as far as saying it's the perfect family car, at least for a family that wants to travel at some speed. Good luck with the purchase.
Having had an ipace on 4-day test, are you sure about the 5 people in comfort? 4 = comfort, 5 = squeeze. And the boot is only ok, not massive for a family car - i think Jag quote 500 litres but the slope of the boot hinders it.But i loved the drive and i want one!
As for the boot, it's just an average sized hole for a crossover SUV. The main thing is that it's a hatchback and the rear seats split and fold flat, so it's a very large load area should it need to be. We bring home a 9 foot Christmas tree every year in ours.
The front trunk however, that is pretty poor/almost pointless. Although still more front storage than you get in an ICE
TheDeuce said:
In fairness I have to agree it's not all that comfortable with three adults across the back. Few cars actually are though.
As for the boot, it's just an average sized hole for a crossover SUV. The main thing is that it's a hatchback and the rear seats split and fold flat, so it's a very large load area should it need to be. We bring home a 9 foot Christmas tree every year in ours.
The front trunk however, that is pretty poor/almost pointless. Although still more front storage than you get in an ICE
What confused me was the spare space beneath the expanded foam under the rear boot - i think its for the compressor for the air-ride (ours was on coils)?As for the boot, it's just an average sized hole for a crossover SUV. The main thing is that it's a hatchback and the rear seats split and fold flat, so it's a very large load area should it need to be. We bring home a 9 foot Christmas tree every year in ours.
The front trunk however, that is pretty poor/almost pointless. Although still more front storage than you get in an ICE
We've been spoilt for space with an SMAX but 95% of the time the bootspace wasn't used and i'm going to pack more lightly in future!
jimmytheone said:
TheDeuce said:
In fairness I have to agree it's not all that comfortable with three adults across the back. Few cars actually are though.
As for the boot, it's just an average sized hole for a crossover SUV. The main thing is that it's a hatchback and the rear seats split and fold flat, so it's a very large load area should it need to be. We bring home a 9 foot Christmas tree every year in ours.
The front trunk however, that is pretty poor/almost pointless. Although still more front storage than you get in an ICE
What confused me was the spare space beneath the expanded foam under the rear boot - i think its for the compressor for the air-ride (ours was on coils)?As for the boot, it's just an average sized hole for a crossover SUV. The main thing is that it's a hatchback and the rear seats split and fold flat, so it's a very large load area should it need to be. We bring home a 9 foot Christmas tree every year in ours.
The front trunk however, that is pretty poor/almost pointless. Although still more front storage than you get in an ICE
We've been spoilt for space with an SMAX but 95% of the time the bootspace wasn't used and i'm going to pack more lightly in future!
If you enjoyed the drive even on coils.. it's a good bit better on air btw. Especially if you want the big wheels that the car really deserves. The air suspension is also very useful if you're on very uneven/rutted ground off road. Jack it up to full height and depending on what size wheels you have it can wade in water over half a metre deep too... And then when you're back on the road you can spoil a 911 driver's day.
A true all-rounder
jimmytheone said:
Having had an ipace on 4-day test, are you sure about the 5 people in comfort? 4 = comfort, 5 = squeeze. And the boot is only ok, not massive for a family car - i think Jag quote 500 litres but the slope of the boot hinders it.
But i loved the drive and i want one!
My five fit into it no hassle and it's one of the few cars they haven't complained about sitting in. It's also a very wide car so I would say it's anything but a squeeze. But your miles may vary of course. But i loved the drive and i want one!
anonymous said:
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On paper maybe, but in the real world, the golf will need to do 200 kph to just catch up let alone get past.Watch any Carwow drag race between and EV and ICE, the higher performance ICE's do indeed eventually come past, but generally not until 120 to 140 mph, which in the real world, is waaaaay too late. Hell, my little i3 that take just under 7 to get to 60, so is far from a fast car these days has no problem getting away from most things on the road......
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