upgrade from Q4 to iX?

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SDK

866 posts

252 months

Thursday 9th March 2023
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SWoll said:
The range and options points are subjective and completely down to the end user. If 200 miles and the base spec (not sure I'd call it poverty) fits the bill for your needs then you have that option, rather than being forced to pay for range or kit you don't want/need as with the Polestar. I don't consider massage seats, a panoramic roof or a Bowers and Wilkins stereo as being essential options personally and certainly wouldn't tick the box for them at the price being asked. But each to their own.
Problem is the options come in packs, so you can't split out the stuff you don't want.
I use Radar Cruise all the time; motorways, dual carriage ways and through traffic on smaller roads, which only comes in the Tech Plus pack (£5.2k).

My current car has all of the above, once you have them, moving to a car without is a downgrade. Even worse if you are paying more for the car, with non of the spec.


For me, the Polestar 3 is £150 a month more than the iX40 and for this you are getting so much more:
- 100+ miles more of real world range
- Lots more performance
- A load more tech and comforts

Edited by SDK on Thursday 9th March 10:06

SWoll

18,206 posts

257 months

Thursday 9th March 2023
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SDK said:
Problem is the options come in packs, so you can't split out the stuff you don't want.
I use Radar Cruise all the time; motorways, dual carriage ways and through traffic on smaller roads, which only comes in the Tech Plus pack (£5.2k).

My current car has all of the above, once you have them, moving to a car without is a downgrade. Even worse if you are paying more for the car, with non of the spec.


For me, the Polestar 3 is £150 a month more than the iX40 and for this you are getting so much more:
- 100+ miles more of real world range
- Lots more performance
- A load more tech and comforts

Edited by SDK on Thursday 9th March 10:06
As mentioned though, for anyone signing up today it's not £150 more (which I would agree looks a decent deal) but £350. I do find the iX M50/60 ridiculously overpriced for what they offer in addition to the 40 though.

I've also had cars with all the gadgets in the past. For me it just made me realize how much superfluous stuff I was paying for that added very little to the experience, but of course that's completely subjective.

SDK

866 posts

252 months

Thursday 9th March 2023
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SWoll said:
As mentioned though, for anyone signing up today it's not £150 more (which I would agree looks a decent deal) but £350. I do find the iX M50/60 ridiculously overpriced for what they offer in addition to the 40 though.

I've also had cars with all the gadgets in the past. For me it just made me realize how much superfluous stuff I was paying for that added very little to the experience, but of course that's completely subjective.
Those prices you found are ridiculously high - you would be throwing money on those deals.

SWoll

18,206 posts

257 months

Thursday 9th March 2023
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SDK said:
SWoll said:
As mentioned though, for anyone signing up today it's not £150 more (which I would agree looks a decent deal) but £350. I do find the iX M50/60 ridiculously overpriced for what they offer in addition to the 40 though.

I've also had cars with all the gadgets in the past. For me it just made me realize how much superfluous stuff I was paying for that added very little to the experience, but of course that's completely subjective.
Those prices you found are ridiculously high - you would be throwing money on those deals.
Leasing.com, which aggregates pricing from a large number of lease companies.

Here's a direct quote from gateway2lease



You've done exceptionally well if you managed to get a confirmed car on those terms for £850 a month. Is yours salary sacrifice or a personal lease?

ETA - Just checked and SS, so will be entirely dependent on how much you earn of course and not available to everyone.

If you're in the sweet spot you can get one for <£650 despite a NET cost of £1400+



The official Polestar lease quote on a standard P3 is even more alarming.



Add the 3 up front payments over the term and that's £1400 a month without insurance and maintenance. eek

Edited by SWoll on Thursday 9th March 11:21

WORRALL.

51 posts

89 months

Thursday 9th March 2023
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SDK said:
Problem is the options come in packs, so you can't split out the stuff you don't want.
I use Radar Cruise all the time; motorways, dual carriage ways and through traffic on smaller roads, which only comes in the Tech Plus pack (£5.2k).

My current car has all of the above, once you have them, moving to a car without is a downgrade. Even worse if you are paying more for the car, with non of the spec.


For me, the Polestar 3 is £150 a month more than the iX40 and for this you are getting so much more:
- 100+ miles more of real world range
- Lots more performance
- A load more tech and comforts

Edited by SDK on Thursday 9th March 10:06
I'm about to order an IX 40 next week via SS and thought I'd read a couple threads on here before committing. Not sure where you read you had to pay £5.2k to get the radar when its a standard feature i thought? You can choose individual options for the majority and dont have to add on costly packs. The Tech pack is for the below:

Technology Plus Pack
£5,250
The Technology Plus Pack comprises Interior Camera, Parking Assistant Plus and the Bowers & Wilkins Diamond Surround Sound System. The Interior Camera and Parking Assistant Plus are available outside of the pack.


Having had a demonstrator for 48 hours i learnt what i did and didnt need. I always spec a pan roof on my cars but for this one I wont bother as the cabin is so light and airy it doesnt need it. The only options i'll be choosing is 22" wheels, privacy glass, Oyster interior and Parking assistant plus for the 360 cameras. Everything else i really dont need since its pretty well equipped from standard and the SS deals make it as cheap to run as my GR Yaris im currently dailying. Range is person dependent, for me working from home full time i dont need 300+ miles, I'll just stick it on charge at home whenever ive nipped out in it

raspy

1,459 posts

93 months

Thursday 9th March 2023
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WORRALL. said:
I'm about to order an IX 40 next week via SS and thought I'd read a couple threads on here before committing. Not sure where you read you had to pay £5.2k to get the radar when its a standard feature i thought? You can choose individual options for the majority and dont have to add on costly packs. The Tech pack is for the below:

Technology Plus Pack
£5,250
The Technology Plus Pack comprises Interior Camera, Parking Assistant Plus and the Bowers & Wilkins Diamond Surround Sound System. The Interior Camera and Parking Assistant Plus are available outside of the pack.


Having had a demonstrator for 48 hours i learnt what i did and didnt need. I always spec a pan roof on my cars but for this one I wont bother as the cabin is so light and airy it doesnt need it. The only options i'll be choosing is 22" wheels, privacy glass, Oyster interior and Parking assistant plus for the 360 cameras. Everything else i really dont need since its pretty well equipped from standard and the SS deals make it as cheap to run as my GR Yaris im currently dailying. Range is person dependent, for me working from home full time i dont need 300+ miles, I'll just stick it on charge at home whenever ive nipped out in it
The iX currently comes with Driving Assistant Professional as standard. I've found it better than bog standard radar cruise that I've tried out before, actively working to prevent side collisions on the motorway and the auto lane change feature works well. Probably the best part is you don't even need to "hold firmly" or "jiggle" the steering wheel like many other brands do, in terms of confirming that a human being is there to resume control, if things go wrong.

Every so often, it just needs to feel that a couple of fingers are lightly touching the bottom of the steering wheel.

I've had no phantom braking incidents in 3,000 miles, unlike Tesla Autopilot that I've tried out.

I don't know if they will bring it back, but when I ordered last summer, they had a M Sport Edition which was pretty much stuffed full of almost every option, which made choosing a car a lot easier.

The latest software update came with remote parking via the app, which I tried in a supermarket car park. Pulled up alongide a space, got out, used my phone to get it to steer and reverse into the space (perfectly).

There was a driving instructor teaching someone how to reverse park just past me. They drove around after parking, the instructor got out, asked me what the hell I was doing, and I told him I'm parking the car with the app, and he exclaimed, "That's me out of a job in 5 years time then"

SDK

866 posts

252 months

Thursday 9th March 2023
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WORRALL. said:
I'm about to order an IX 40 next week via SS and thought I'd read a couple threads on here before committing. Not sure where you read you had to pay £5.2k to get the radar when its a standard feature i thought? You can choose individual options for the majority and dont have to add on costly packs. The Tech pack is for the below:

Technology Plus Pack
£5,250
The Technology Plus Pack comprises Interior Camera, Parking Assistant Plus and the Bowers & Wilkins Diamond Surround Sound System. The Interior Camera and Parking Assistant Plus are available outside of the pack.
ahhh yes, you are correct - that brings the required options amount down a bit smile

325Ti

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391 posts

145 months

Thursday 9th March 2023
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Hopefully the bmw system is better than the audi adaptive cruise - ita truly terrible and almost dangerous. Today it braked suddenly and sharply in the outside lane of a dual carriageway as a result picking up the car on the inside lane, and later on it serwerved to avoid a tar line on an A road

SWoll

18,206 posts

257 months

Thursday 9th March 2023
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325Ti said:
Hopefully the bmw system is better than the audi adaptive cruise - ita truly terrible and almost dangerous. Today it braked suddenly and sharply in the outside lane of a dual carriageway as a result picking up the car on the inside lane, and later on it serwerved to avoid a tar line on an A road
Yet to use one that I'd trust. Tesla's was dreadful, BMW/Audi not much better. Not tried MB's implementation but have concluded at this point I'd rather just use classic cruise and handle it myself.

The same goes for the automated parking systems I've tried in many cars, just far easier and less stressful to do it yourself.


DMZ

1,382 posts

159 months

Thursday 9th March 2023
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The best I’ve used is incidentally Volvo’s/Polestar’s self driving system. I did a five hour drive at some stage in a Polestar 2 and I did about 15 mins out of those, the rest was the car driving itself. It’s nice. I wouldn’t have a modern car without that capability personally. It’s not like most of them are in any shape or form interesting to drive and it takes out a lot of tedium.

SWoll

18,206 posts

257 months

Thursday 9th March 2023
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DMZ said:
The best I’ve used is incidentally Volvo’s/Polestar’s self driving system. I did a five hour drive at some stage in a Polestar 2 and I did about 15 mins out of those, the rest was the car driving itself. It’s nice. I wouldn’t have a modern car without that capability personally. It’s not like most of them are in any shape or form interesting to drive and it takes out a lot of tedium.
No car is interesting to drive on a 5 hour motorway slog though. I personally always felt less relaxed with it activated, you're still having to pay full attention to what is going on so hardly the car doing all of the work. All it's doing in the case of the Polestar system is maintaining a distance to the car in front and a maximum speed, you're still having to manage lane changes, junction exits etc?

SDK

866 posts

252 months

Friday 10th March 2023
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SWoll said:
No car is interesting to drive on a 5 hour motorway slog though. I personally always felt less relaxed with it activated, you're still having to pay full attention to what is going on so hardly the car doing all of the work. All it's doing in the case of the Polestar system is maintaining a distance to the car in front and a maximum speed, you're still having to manage lane changes, junction exits etc?
That's the point though.
In motorway traffic, smart speed traffic or just any traffic, you can relax and let the car take away risk and concentration, keeping up with traffic. Even better in the dark, rain, spray conditions. [The auto pilot keeps the car centered in lane too]
Gives me time to catch up on e-mails and social media tongue out

Edited by SDK on Friday 10th March 09:30

SDK

866 posts

252 months

Friday 10th March 2023
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In a shock change of events I've cancelled my Polestar 3 order and gone for a BMW iX40 M-Sport beer

The Polestar 3 UK delivery has been delayed until Q1 2024 and I need a car for October this year. Realising active cruise was included as standard, It's also a fair bit cheaper a month, so this was the only sensible choice tongue out


White with Mocha interior





jgrewal

730 posts

46 months

Friday 10th March 2023
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Congrats mate! Wow the white does look good there - I am still mulling Sophisto Grey, Black or the white. The only issue is the contrast black panels on the white for me and loving that Mokka!

SWoll

18,206 posts

257 months

Friday 10th March 2023
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SDK said:
In a shock change of events I've cancelled my Polestar 3 order and gone for a BMW iX40 M-Sport beer

The Polestar 3 UK delivery has been delayed until Q1 2024 and I need a car for October this year. Realising active cruise was included as standard, It's also a fair bit cheaper a month, so this was the only sensible choice tongue out


White with Mocha interior




Happy to help. wink

raspy

1,459 posts

93 months

Friday 10th March 2023
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SDK said:
That's the point though.
In motorway traffic, smart speed traffic or just any traffic, you can relax and let the car take away risk and concentration, keeping up with traffic. Even better in the dark, rain, spray conditions. [The auto pilot keeps the car centered in lane too]
Gives me time to catch up on e-mails and social media tongue out

Edited by SDK on Friday 10th March 09:30
These are driver "assistance" systems. It's NOT so the driver can concentrate on doing other things whilst in the car.

It's about reducing driver fatigue, for sure, but trusting these systems implicitly just because they appear to have worked well so far, and perceiving that having the system activated means the car's systems have removed all risk of a collision is a flawed and dangerous attitude, imho.

SDK

866 posts

252 months

Friday 10th March 2023
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jgrewal said:
Congrats mate! Wow the white does look good there - I am still mulling Sophisto Grey, Black or the white. The only issue is the contrast black panels on the white for me and loving that Mokka!
Thanks !
I was undecided on the interior - Oyster or Mocha, so I popped into the local BMW showroom late yesterday. Oyster looks more beige than white so went with the brown.
I've also gone with the titanium gold trim option to break up the exterior black. This adds matt gold to the front grill, side strips, door handles and rear badging - it doesn't look too bling rotate








SWoll said:
Happy to help. wink
beersmile

jgrewal

730 posts

46 months

Friday 10th March 2023
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Looks great might add on that titanium and see what it does to the price! Are they the standard wheels for M-Sport on these photos?

SDK

866 posts

252 months

Friday 10th March 2023
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Those are the option 22" wheels in the above photos [£1.1k]

The standard 21" wheels look like this





325Ti

Original Poster:

391 posts

145 months

Friday 10th March 2023
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SDK said:
In a shock change of events I've cancelled my Polestar 3 order and gone for a BMW iX40 M-Sport beer

The Polestar 3 UK delivery has been delayed until Q1 2024 and I need a car for October this year. Realising active cruise was included as standard, It's also a fair bit cheaper a month, so this was the only sensible choice tongue out


White with Mocha interior




congratulations

i was tempted by the mocha but couldn't find one to view in real life and wasn't convinced by the configurator - but it looks great in your pictures

ive had brown / tan interiors before from BMW and liked them but were lighter than the Mocha - ive gone safe with black

also went for a sport as i preferred the more colour coded exterior with less black than the M sport - but the bronze pack defiantly helps to break it up

did you get a delivery date? i was given mid Sept for mine