The powers of EV's
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I’ve driven many different high powered cars and an EV is different. It’s more in control of its power and it’s much easier to manage. I’ve had cars with half the power just want to kick the back end and nearly spin out in the slightest of less than ideal conditions. The only thing you need to be wary of with the EV is to plan a bit ahead as you will there very quickly.
delta0 said:
I’ve driven many different high powered cars and an EV is different. It’s more in control of its power and it’s much easier to manage. I’ve had cars with half the power just want to kick the back end and nearly spin out in the slightest of less than ideal conditions. The only thing you need to be wary of with the EV is to plan a bit ahead as you will there very quickly.
And the fact that other drivers aren't calibrated to just how quickly the things can take off, especially when it's done in silence. That something I'm always wary of.
Since I've had the iPace, the way it picks up still surprises me. I've owned more powerful cars, but the response and instant power really is impressive.
I have read on the I pace forums of various people having accidents whilst manoeuvring, or parking, as they not used to how the motors respond.
I have read on the I pace forums of various people having accidents whilst manoeuvring, or parking, as they not used to how the motors respond.
paradigital said:
robinessex said:
As it's been said before, with a powerful car, you arrive at your accident quicker !!!!
You might. I drive to the conditions, my and the vehicle’s ability. As already said multiple times in the thread, the accelerator pedal isn’t an on off switch.The thing with performance cars is they are also fitted with better brakes/tyres most of the time so have the ability to avoid accidents another car wouldn't.
jamesbilluk said:
Since I've had the iPace, the way it picks up still surprises me. I've owned more powerful cars, but the response and instant power really is impressive.
I have read on the I pace forums of various people having accidents whilst manoeuvring, or parking, as they not used to how the motors respond.
I have read on the I pace forums of various people having accidents whilst manoeuvring, or parking, as they not used to how the motors respond.
Reverse in the Tesla took some getting used to. Would take off as quickly as it did going forward so needed a light touch.
SWoll said:
jamesbilluk said:
Since I've had the iPace, the way it picks up still surprises me. I've owned more powerful cars, but the response and instant power really is impressive.
I have read on the I pace forums of various people having accidents whilst manoeuvring, or parking, as they not used to how the motors respond.
I have read on the I pace forums of various people having accidents whilst manoeuvring, or parking, as they not used to how the motors respond.
Reverse in the Tesla took some getting used to. Would take off as quickly as it did going forward so needed a light touch.
SWoll said:
Reverse in the Tesla took some getting used to. Would take off as quickly as it did going forward so needed a light touch.
I must admit, being used to the 8 speed auto in my previous Jag, there's a slight delay in to 1st/reverse. With the iPace, I nearly reversed through the wall the first time I went out . As previous poser said, I tend to just use creep mode instead.
This thread need a reality check. This is PH, we're supposed to understand the basics here.
A car that does 0-60 in 4.6 seconds is reasonable on PH terms.
A car that does the same in 3.1 seconds is on a different level.
If we were comparing traditional supercars on such metrics nobody would attempt to draw a realistic comparison between two such cars..
And beyond the M3P, the truth is that these days anyone with a decent income, credit rating and patience for delivery can order an EV that can nail an F1 car 0-100mph, yet still... There are not mass reports of accidental collisions whilst attempting to drive carefully past a bus stop or a line school children.
It's almost as if those that choose to buy the fastest available road cars on sale today are aware of what they've bought and having been clever enough to afford one in the first place, are also clever enough to not accidentally deploy over 1000hp at the school gates
As we all truthfully know, it's never an overpowered car found in a ditch on a damp day. It's always a s
te mobile Peugeot or Honda Jazz that's got it all wrong.
A car that does 0-60 in 4.6 seconds is reasonable on PH terms.
A car that does the same in 3.1 seconds is on a different level.
If we were comparing traditional supercars on such metrics nobody would attempt to draw a realistic comparison between two such cars..
And beyond the M3P, the truth is that these days anyone with a decent income, credit rating and patience for delivery can order an EV that can nail an F1 car 0-100mph, yet still... There are not mass reports of accidental collisions whilst attempting to drive carefully past a bus stop or a line school children.
It's almost as if those that choose to buy the fastest available road cars on sale today are aware of what they've bought and having been clever enough to afford one in the first place, are also clever enough to not accidentally deploy over 1000hp at the school gates
As we all truthfully know, it's never an overpowered car found in a ditch on a damp day. It's always a s
te mobile Peugeot or Honda Jazz that's got it all wrong. TheDeuce said:
This thread need a reality check. This is PH, we're supposed to understand the basics here.
A car that does 0-60 in 4.6 seconds is reasonable on PH terms.
A car that does the same in 3.1 seconds is on a different level.
If we were comparing traditional supercars on such metrics nobody would attempt to draw a realistic comparison between two such cars..
And beyond the M3P, the truth is that these days anyone with a decent income, credit rating and patience for delivery can order an EV that can nail an F1 car 0-100mph, yet still... There are not mass reports of accidental collisions whilst attempting to drive carefully past a bus stop or a line school children.
It's almost as if those that choose to buy the fastest available road cars on sale today are aware of what they've bought and having been clever enough to afford one in the first place, are also clever enough to not accidentally deploy over 1000hp at the school gates
As we all truthfully know, it's never an overpowered car found in a ditch on a damp day. It's always a ste mobile Peugeot or Honda Jazz that's got it all wrong.
I think you don't have to try too hard to find stories of powerful cars in hedges.A car that does 0-60 in 4.6 seconds is reasonable on PH terms.
A car that does the same in 3.1 seconds is on a different level.
If we were comparing traditional supercars on such metrics nobody would attempt to draw a realistic comparison between two such cars..
And beyond the M3P, the truth is that these days anyone with a decent income, credit rating and patience for delivery can order an EV that can nail an F1 car 0-100mph, yet still... There are not mass reports of accidental collisions whilst attempting to drive carefully past a bus stop or a line school children.
It's almost as if those that choose to buy the fastest available road cars on sale today are aware of what they've bought and having been clever enough to afford one in the first place, are also clever enough to not accidentally deploy over 1000hp at the school gates
As we all truthfully know, it's never an overpowered car found in a ditch on a damp day. It's always a s
te mobile Peugeot or Honda Jazz that's got it all wrong. 90% of crashes will be dull cars, because dull cars account for 95-99% of all cars, depending on your taste.
Insurance actuaries are not complete idiots, there's a reason they want big premiums for younf blokes in powerful cars.
At the moment, most EVs are driven by middle aged sensible people from suburbia.
They haven't filtered down to young blokes in the cities.
OutInTheShed said:
I think you don't have to try too hard to find stories of powerful cars in hedges.
90% of crashes will be dull cars, because dull cars account for 95-99% of all cars, depending on your taste.
Insurance actuaries are not complete idiots, there's a reason they want big premiums for younf blokes in powerful cars.
At the moment, most EVs are driven by middle aged sensible people from suburbia.
They haven't filtered down to young blokes in the cities.
Most Ev's are no faster than their ICE equivalents.90% of crashes will be dull cars, because dull cars account for 95-99% of all cars, depending on your taste.
Insurance actuaries are not complete idiots, there's a reason they want big premiums for younf blokes in powerful cars.
At the moment, most EVs are driven by middle aged sensible people from suburbia.
They haven't filtered down to young blokes in the cities.
The performance orientated EV's like the Model 3 are selling to younger guys in the most part or via SS/company deals. I know a few in their mid/late 20's who have them, all working in the tech industry. The exact demographic that used to buy M140i/Golf R etc.
TheDeuce said:
This thread need a reality check. This is PH, we're supposed to understand the basics here.
A car that does 0-60 in 4.6 seconds is reasonable on PH terms.
A car that does the same in 3.1 seconds is on a different level.
If we were comparing traditional supercars on such metrics nobody would attempt to draw a realistic comparison between two such cars..
And beyond the M3P, the truth is that these days anyone with a decent income, credit rating and patience for delivery can order an EV that can nail an F1 car 0-100mph, yet still... There are not mass reports of accidental collisions whilst attempting to drive carefully past a bus stop or a line school children.
It's almost as if those that choose to buy the fastest available road cars on sale today are aware of what they've bought and having been clever enough to afford one in the first place, are also clever enough to not accidentally deploy over 1000hp at the school gates
As we all truthfully know, it's never an overpowered car found in a ditch on a damp day. It's always a ste mobile Peugeot or Honda Jazz that's got it all wrong.
I see you have no idea about F1 cars. F1 cars accelerate from 0 – 60mph in roughly 2.6 seconds. This might seem slow given their top speed, however as a lot of their speed comes from the aerodynamics (which works better the quicker the car is going), they can't unleash full power from a standing start. A car that does 0-60 in 4.6 seconds is reasonable on PH terms.
A car that does the same in 3.1 seconds is on a different level.
If we were comparing traditional supercars on such metrics nobody would attempt to draw a realistic comparison between two such cars..
And beyond the M3P, the truth is that these days anyone with a decent income, credit rating and patience for delivery can order an EV that can nail an F1 car 0-100mph, yet still... There are not mass reports of accidental collisions whilst attempting to drive carefully past a bus stop or a line school children.
It's almost as if those that choose to buy the fastest available road cars on sale today are aware of what they've bought and having been clever enough to afford one in the first place, are also clever enough to not accidentally deploy over 1000hp at the school gates
As we all truthfully know, it's never an overpowered car found in a ditch on a damp day. It's always a s
te mobile Peugeot or Honda Jazz that's got it all wrong. This also happens to be the same issue any road car faces with much over 400-500bhp, you simply can't put the power down in any noticeable way. EV can achieve good 0-60 more because you can manage the power better and not because you have more bhp.
skilly1 said:
Not sure it has been mentioned but Tesla has a comfort setting which increases amount of movement the accelerator needs to increase speed.
Perfect for someone who does not want all of the power and a smooth acceleration even if you accidentally push to hard.
or save yourself £30k and get a less powerful e-niro? lolPerfect for someone who does not want all of the power and a smooth acceleration even if you accidentally push to hard.
skilly1 said:
Not sure it has been mentioned but Tesla has a comfort setting which increases amount of movement the accelerator needs to increase speed.
Perfect for someone who does not want all of the power and a smooth acceleration even if you accidentally push to hard.
Pretty much the same as a drive-by wire accelerator pedal on many other cars with variable drive modes (sport, comfort and eco), and when on cruise control or limiter.Perfect for someone who does not want all of the power and a smooth acceleration even if you accidentally push to hard.
Take my F30 BMW 335d
Sport: quick pedal response (small change in accelerator angle)
Comfort: standard response
Eco: delayed response
Cruise control set: much larger pedal angle movement needed to increase from cruise speed.
Speed limiter set: full ‘kick down’ pedal position required
ashenfie said:
I see you have no idea about F1 cars. F1 cars accelerate from 0 – 60mph in roughly 2.6 seconds. This might seem slow given their top speed, however as a lot of their speed comes from the aerodynamics (which works better the quicker the car is going), they can't unleash full power from a standing start.
This also happens to be the same issue any road car faces with much over 400-500bhp, you simply can't put the power down in any noticeable way. EV can achieve good 0-60 more because you can manage the power better and not because you have more bhp.
Also the huge amount of torque available across a wide rpm range, especially at the bottom. It just launches the car whenever you put your foot down from a standstill or on a motorway. This also happens to be the same issue any road car faces with much over 400-500bhp, you simply can't put the power down in any noticeable way. EV can achieve good 0-60 more because you can manage the power better and not because you have more bhp.
Pixelpeep Electric said:
skilly1 said:
Not sure it has been mentioned but Tesla has a comfort setting which increases amount of movement the accelerator needs to increase speed.
Perfect for someone who does not want all of the power and a smooth acceleration even if you accidentally push to hard.
or save yourself £30k and get a less powerful e-niro? lolPerfect for someone who does not want all of the power and a smooth acceleration even if you accidentally push to hard.
SWoll said:
Pixelpeep Electric said:
skilly1 said:
Not sure it has been mentioned but Tesla has a comfort setting which increases amount of movement the accelerator needs to increase speed.
Perfect for someone who does not want all of the power and a smooth acceleration even if you accidentally push to hard.
or save yourself £30k and get a less powerful e-niro? lolPerfect for someone who does not want all of the power and a smooth acceleration even if you accidentally push to hard.
k me they've shot up in price! - we have a 2020 eniro 4 (fully loaded) and that was £34k - entry level '2' model is now £37k - if we got that spec now it'd set us back £43k ! - makes my Dual Motor polestar sound like good value !i'll reword my original comment ..
"or save yourself £6k and get a less powerful e-niro"
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