Kia EV6, Ioniq 5, Ford Mustang Mach-E, or Tesla Model Y?
Discussion
JD said:
Also making this exact decision at the moment, and leaning towards the Ioniq5 due to affordability, and possibly a 58kWh version to get a newer model.
Does anyone know how the trim levels worked for a 2022 or 2023 car?
The current car seems to have changed the names, and I am struggling to find out for the older ones what is what. I see SE, Premium and Ultimate which I assume is lowest to highest trim? also Namsan?
Do they all have heat pumps?
I think on the early ones, the heat pump was an option, I have a 2021 Project 45, this was the launch edition, that came with all the options as standard, but 2023 have the heat pumps and battery pre conditioning as standard. Does anyone know how the trim levels worked for a 2022 or 2023 car?
The current car seems to have changed the names, and I am struggling to find out for the older ones what is what. I see SE, Premium and Ultimate which I assume is lowest to highest trim? also Namsan?
Do they all have heat pumps?
The ultimate came with the leather seats and HUD, which is fantastic, also the seats seem great quality.
The Namsan had all the options, and also a full length panoramic roof I believe.
JD said:
Also making this exact decision at the moment, and leaning towards the Ioniq5 due to affordability, and possibly a 58kWh version to get a newer model.
Does anyone know how the trim levels worked for a 2022 or 2023 car?
The current car seems to have changed the names, and I am struggling to find out for the older ones what is what. I see SE, Premium and Ultimate which I assume is lowest to highest trim? also Namsan?
Do they all have heat pumps?
Premium is the base car.Does anyone know how the trim levels worked for a 2022 or 2023 car?
The current car seems to have changed the names, and I am struggling to find out for the older ones what is what. I see SE, Premium and Ultimate which I assume is lowest to highest trim? also Namsan?
Do they all have heat pumps?
Ultimate next and actually has most everything you will need.
Namsan is the top spec but I think the main add is the digital wing mirrors. It's a pretty rare spec to be honest.
drgoatboy said:
JD said:
Also making this exact decision at the moment, and leaning towards the Ioniq5 due to affordability, and possibly a 58kWh version to get a newer model.
Does anyone know how the trim levels worked for a 2022 or 2023 car?
The current car seems to have changed the names, and I am struggling to find out for the older ones what is what. I see SE, Premium and Ultimate which I assume is lowest to highest trim? also Namsan?
Do they all have heat pumps?
Premium is the base car.Does anyone know how the trim levels worked for a 2022 or 2023 car?
The current car seems to have changed the names, and I am struggling to find out for the older ones what is what. I see SE, Premium and Ultimate which I assume is lowest to highest trim? also Namsan?
Do they all have heat pumps?
Ultimate next and actually has most everything you will need.
Namsan is the top spec but I think the main add is the digital wing mirrors. It's a pretty rare spec to be honest.
Edited by Big Nanas on Saturday 22 February 16:29
Zcd1 said:
JonnyVTEC said:
Of that lot… easy. An IPACE
You’re trolling, right? ‘Cause you can’t be serious…
I do think there's a temptation when buying an EV to sacrifice everything else about the car for the sake of getting the best range etc, but that's bit of fools game because I would argue it's better to have to make an additional charge stop, or charge for a few more minutes once in a blue moon than have a car that you don't actually like as much every other day of the year.
We have a 2024 Model Y and are happy it and with the charging infrastructure here in the US but the association to Musk is unfortunate. It rides a lot better on 18s with taller sidewalls. So much so that I may get another set of wheels when it comes to put snow tires in the garage.
Where is the best resource for learning about charging infrastructure for EV6 and Ioniq 5?
Where is the best resource for learning about charging infrastructure for EV6 and Ioniq 5?
A friend has the Extended range Mach-E, you can but low mileage ones for £20-25k, which is where he is after 3 years lease, £25k to pay off to keep it.
It's a good spec car, OK boot size, not huge but the ride is harsh. He's not had any issues with it, dealer support has been good for his few interactions
It's a good spec car, OK boot size, not huge but the ride is harsh. He's not had any issues with it, dealer support has been good for his few interactions
page3 said:
Something that has made a huge difference for me and I think doesn't get enough attention is the continual software updates Tesla do, giving new and improved features. With other manufacturers I've always pretty much felt abandoned post sale.
Nothing beats consumer Beta testing 
Not really a dig at Tesla, their bugs are pretty minimal. And VAG are definitely more guilty of it.
Evanivitch said:
page3 said:
Something that has made a huge difference for me and I think doesn't get enough attention is the continual software updates Tesla do, giving new and improved features. With other manufacturers I've always pretty much felt abandoned post sale.
Nothing beats consumer Beta testing Addition of things such as new UI, new services, adaptive LED matrix lights, heated steering wheel, sentry mode, remote dashcam viewing etc etc have been pretty great.
page3 said:
Evanivitch said:
page3 said:
Something that has made a huge difference for me and I think doesn't get enough attention is the continual software updates Tesla do, giving new and improved features. With other manufacturers I've always pretty much felt abandoned post sale.
Nothing beats consumer Beta testing Addition of things such as new UI, new services, adaptive LED matrix lights, heated steering wheel, sentry mode, remote dashcam viewing etc etc have been pretty great.
Evanivitch said:
Feel like things that already had hardware...
Another example I posted in another thread.Because of her company charging card, my sister runs a Model 3 without superchargers. The Tesla was initially set up to do pre-conditioning of the battery when you arrive at superchargers. It's all very simple and no interaction needed, you set your gps to your destination and if there's any superchargers it routes you to, the battery will be preconditioned.
However, there was no way to do this for non-Tesla superchargers. Since Tesla owners have pretty cheap supercharging and the SC network has been really good compared to the competition, this was probably mostly a non issue initially.
Now they've added that functionality. Seems like a small thing but for someone like my sister, it makes a difference when traveling across the continent.
There's so much that these cars do with the infotainment, not to mention driving aids, the updates are very welcome, and in many way my car has had a lot of "upgrades" since the 5 years I've owned it.
Anyone posting on this thread got the small battery (58kWh) Ioniq 5 without a heat pump?
Tempted by a much newer 58kWh rather than older 73kWh, so just trying to work out how the range/efficiency is.
All I can find online seem to be range tests of dual motor versions with the larger battery (and often optioned with the heat pump of course!)
Tempted by a much newer 58kWh rather than older 73kWh, so just trying to work out how the range/efficiency is.
All I can find online seem to be range tests of dual motor versions with the larger battery (and often optioned with the heat pump of course!)
Edited by JD on Tuesday 25th February 09:43
I had a 2018 iPace, I've just ended the PCP early and it's gone to BCA sadly. An I going issue with the traction battery, and 7 modules replaced, I didn't trust it, or the dealership anymore (also my warranty had run out) and the insurance had gone way up, also as the modules could keep failing, and JLR made it clear they wouldn't be replacing the main traction battery. The battery saga contained for months, where it was limited to 72 percent which made it hopeless for longer trips.
I loved the handling, I was very tempted by an HSE to see if I had more luck reliability wise, as after sales was still less than ideal!! but I've now gone with an Ioniq 5 Project 45, not as fast, but nearly there, handling isn't bad at all, but again, not
as good as the iPace. The faster charging will come in handy though, on a longer trip.
Build quality wisez I would say they're the same, both very solid, the Ioniq has no rattles at all, and rides much better than the iPace I had (which had air suspension)
I loved the handling, I was very tempted by an HSE to see if I had more luck reliability wise, as after sales was still less than ideal!! but I've now gone with an Ioniq 5 Project 45, not as fast, but nearly there, handling isn't bad at all, but again, not
as good as the iPace. The faster charging will come in handy though, on a longer trip.
Build quality wisez I would say they're the same, both very solid, the Ioniq has no rattles at all, and rides much better than the iPace I had (which had air suspension)
Edited by jamesbilluk on Tuesday 25th February 21:22
JonnyVTEC said:
I was actually, much better car than all.
All evidence to the contrary...https://www.roadandtrack.com/news/a63021359/jaguar...
Zcd1 said:
JonnyVTEC said:
I was actually, much better car than all.
All evidence to the contrary...https://www.roadandtrack.com/news/a63021359/jaguar...
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