EV road tax in UK from this 2025 April!?
Discussion
jameswardprowse said:
Here petrol and diesel drivers are saying, “Welcome to the club, EV folks!”
But due to this, EV market is going to take a huge hit with these new tax hikes and charging costs creeping up! Petrol and diesel drivers have been dealing with fuel duty and road tax for years, and now EV owners are getting a taste of it too.
Will this slow down EV adoption, or is it just a bump in the road? What do you lot think?
Sorry but this is a silly post. But due to this, EV market is going to take a huge hit with these new tax hikes and charging costs creeping up! Petrol and diesel drivers have been dealing with fuel duty and road tax for years, and now EV owners are getting a taste of it too.
Will this slow down EV adoption, or is it just a bump in the road? What do you lot think?
99% of EV drivers were ICE drivers in the past. They're not a separate club.
The idea that £195 annual road tax is going to make any difference to someone buying a new car car is just weird. If people baulk at the £40k+ 'expensive car' tax the solution is simple - buy a cheaper car.
Also, loading up the vehicle tax for expensive cars in the first 1-6 years so that subsequent years have lower tax is a good thing for the used car market. There won't be the issue of a really cheap car having £700 annual tax bills.
NDA said:
I don't mind paying VED on my EV, but it's a bit odd to have the calculation based on emissions. Mrs NDA's ICE car pays £35 a year (based on emissions) and my EV will pay £195 (based on, er, emissions).
On the other end of the spectrum my Morgan will pay £760.
What car does Morgan have?!On the other end of the spectrum my Morgan will pay £760.
Mammasaid said:
Steve Dean said:
I'm surprised it hasn't been mentioned, so I've just checked, in the current financial year the revenue from Fuel Duty and the VAT on petrol & diesel will raise £20.4 Billion.
As we move from ICE to EV that revenue will need to come from somewhere. Therefore, it is not exactly rocket science to figure out that the road tax on EV's will rise as a very steep line on a graph.
I suspect that by 2028 the road tax on EV's will be in the range £300-600 as a minimum.
Why? From April they are being brought into line with ICE, so what shortfall will there be?As we move from ICE to EV that revenue will need to come from somewhere. Therefore, it is not exactly rocket science to figure out that the road tax on EV's will rise as a very steep line on a graph.
I suspect that by 2028 the road tax on EV's will be in the range £300-600 as a minimum.
braddo said:
jameswardprowse said:
Here petrol and diesel drivers are saying, “Welcome to the club, EV folks!”
But due to this, EV market is going to take a huge hit with these new tax hikes and charging costs creeping up! Petrol and diesel drivers have been dealing with fuel duty and road tax for years, and now EV owners are getting a taste of it too.
Will this slow down EV adoption, or is it just a bump in the road? What do you lot think?
Sorry but this is a silly post. But due to this, EV market is going to take a huge hit with these new tax hikes and charging costs creeping up! Petrol and diesel drivers have been dealing with fuel duty and road tax for years, and now EV owners are getting a taste of it too.
Will this slow down EV adoption, or is it just a bump in the road? What do you lot think?
99% of EV drivers were ICE drivers in the past. They're not a separate club.
Or have I got that generalisation wrong? I see loads of Tesla's out on the roads everyday for example, and I can't imagine that any of those have been "heart" purchases for me, and they're a simple "head" purchase to save a few quid on running costs I think. Not that there is anything wrong with that of course though.
braddo said:
Zero Fuchs said:
He was showing me a 2007 2.5 WRX STi and it was £735/year. Looking on AT this seems to be the case although I stand corrected if AT isn't always accurate.
I'm sure I've seen an era of S2000's at these silly tax bands before though.
March 2006 is the key date.I'm sure I've seen an era of S2000's at these silly tax bands before though.
After that, lots of cars go into the £700+ tax bracket including S2000, RX8, WRX, 2.7 Boxsters etc. Anything pre-Mar 06 will top out at £4xx.
Absolute rip off though and should be equalised IMO.
NDA said:
I don't mind paying VED on my EV, but it's a bit odd to have the calculation based on emissions. Mrs NDA's ICE car pays £35 a year (based on emissions) and my EV will pay £195 (based on, er, emissions).
On the other end of the spectrum my Morgan will pay £760.
EV had a VED discount because of emissions, but their Y2 onwards VED wasn't set on emissions.On the other end of the spectrum my Morgan will pay £760.
I would like to see VED set by weight, mainly to encourage better decisions on battery and vehicle size (and therefore reducing lifetime emissions and impact).
cerb4.5lee said:
Or have I got that generalisation wrong? I see loads of Tesla's out on the roads everyday for example, and I can't imagine that any of those have been "heart" purchases for me, and they're a simple "head" purchase to save a few quid on running costs I think. Not that there is anything wrong with that of course though.
Have you really not seen the crazy enthusiasm some Tesla fans have for the brand and the cars? Obviously they're never going to make up a majority of buyers, but I'd bet on a higher proportion of Tesla purchases being "made with the heart" than, say, BMW ones. Other EVs, less so.
WPA said:
66HFM said:
We've just renewed the road tax on our Honda e:Ny1 6 months early, to take advantage of the 'free' road tax for a further 12 months and then come September 2025 it goes back to Honda!
One of the bigger frustrations maybe all of those post 2017 petrol/diesel cars that are currently paying £35/year and will increase to £195 from April...
Is it 100% changing on non EV's or is from a certain point, seen various answers but would say a BMW d from 2018 that is currently £20 per year go up.One of the bigger frustrations maybe all of those post 2017 petrol/diesel cars that are currently paying £35/year and will increase to £195 from April...
Edited by WPA on Thursday 20th March 12:22
https://www.cinch.co.uk/news/car-tax-april-2025?ms...
Cars registered after 1st April 2017:
From 1 April 2025, the standard road tax rate is £195 for all cars registered after 1 April 2017 – petrol, diesel, hybrid and electric (it was previously £190 for petrol/diesel, with a £10 discount for hybrids, and free for electric cars).
kambites said:
cerb4.5lee said:
Or have I got that generalisation wrong? I see loads of Tesla's out on the roads everyday for example, and I can't imagine that any of those have been "heart" purchases for me, and they're a simple "head" purchase to save a few quid on running costs I think. Not that there is anything wrong with that of course though.
Have you really not seen the crazy enthusiasm some Tesla fans have for the brand and the cars? Obviously they're never going to make up a majority of buyers, but I'd bet on a higher proportion of Tesla purchases being "made with the heart" than, say, BMW ones. Other EVs, less so.
cerb4.5lee said:
braddo said:
jameswardprowse said:
Here petrol and diesel drivers are saying, “Welcome to the club, EV folks!”
But due to this, EV market is going to take a huge hit with these new tax hikes and charging costs creeping up! Petrol and diesel drivers have been dealing with fuel duty and road tax for years, and now EV owners are getting a taste of it too.
Will this slow down EV adoption, or is it just a bump in the road? What do you lot think?
Sorry but this is a silly post. But due to this, EV market is going to take a huge hit with these new tax hikes and charging costs creeping up! Petrol and diesel drivers have been dealing with fuel duty and road tax for years, and now EV owners are getting a taste of it too.
Will this slow down EV adoption, or is it just a bump in the road? What do you lot think?
99% of EV drivers were ICE drivers in the past. They're not a separate club.
Or have I got that generalisation wrong? I see loads of Tesla's out on the roads everyday for example, and I can't imagine that any of those have been "heart" purchases for me, and they're a simple "head" purchase to save a few quid on running costs I think. Not that there is anything wrong with that of course though.
But FWIW, I've not seen a single EV owner complain of having to pay VED.
cerb4.5lee said:
Of course they're a separate club. ICE drivers don't mind spending a few quid on fuel/tax, whereas EV drivers are tight gits in comparison, and they want something for nothing if they can get it I reckon.
Or have I got that generalisation wrong? I see loads of Tesla's out on the roads everyday for example, and I can't imagine that any of those have been "heart" purchases for me, and they're a simple "head" purchase to save a few quid on running costs I think. Not that there is anything wrong with that of course though.
I honestly have no idea what goes on in your head. Your narrow minded assumptions when it comes to EV's are mind boggling.Or have I got that generalisation wrong? I see loads of Tesla's out on the roads everyday for example, and I can't imagine that any of those have been "heart" purchases for me, and they're a simple "head" purchase to save a few quid on running costs I think. Not that there is anything wrong with that of course though.
"ICE drivers don't mind spending money on fuel"??? Yeah, because nobody has every moaned about the price of petrol going up have they?
On one hand people like you say EV's are too expensive for normal people. And then you say that EV owners are tight and trying to save money. Which is it?
And as for this 'separate club' thing, despite all the posts you've read you still can't see that many EV owners are also massive petrolheads???
I'm on my second EV. As a daily driver it's basically better than any ICE car I've owned. My daily driver goes to work and back, and to the shops now and then. None of those journeys are fun regardless of the car. But they are a lot more pleasant in the EV. If an EV and ICE cost the same to own/run right now, I'd pick the EV as a daily.
On the flip side, I spent nearly £300 on petrol in just two days at the beginning of the week. Driving to Silverstone and then driving round flat out all day in my Lotus Exige 410, enjoying the fun of a proper sports car, the satisfaction and noise of heel and toe down changes into corners, the whole lot.
You won't find many bigger petrolheads than me. Look at my car history. I spent two days at the Goodwood festival of speed last year. I've been to Silverstone, Spa and Monza to watch F1. I only have one holiday booked so far this year and it's to go to Amsterdam and watch the Dutch Grand Prix. I have a specific Instagram page dedicated to my car purely for sharing information and helping fellow Lotus owners. I have a youtube channel where I post track day videos. Need I go on?
My friend also drives an EV as a daily. But he also has a modified Mitsubishi Evo, and a Renault Clio track car.
Where does all this fit into your "them and us" mindet about EV owners?
braddo said:
Zero Fuchs said:
He was showing me a 2007 2.5 WRX STi and it was £735/year. Looking on AT this seems to be the case although I stand corrected if AT isn't always accurate.
I'm sure I've seen an era of S2000's at these silly tax bands before though.
March 2006 is the key date.I'm sure I've seen an era of S2000's at these silly tax bands before though.
After that, lots of cars go into the £700+ tax bracket including S2000, RX8, WRX, 2.7 Boxsters etc. Anything pre-Mar 06 will top out at £4xx.
cerb4.5lee said:
Paul_M3 said:
Where does all this fit into your "them and us" mindet about EV owners?
Trust me to find you as the exception! 
You've scuppered my mindset on it all now!
Honestly mate, I'm really not the only one.
There will be a huge amount people who like and appreciate both types of cars. Car's have always been horses for courses.
A 911 GT3 RS is fantastic, but it's bloody rubbish if you want to take two kids and a dog down the beach.
Let's be honest. Most ICE cars that people own are both boring and sound rubbish. Hell, I personally thought even my supercharged Lotus Elise sounded pretty rubbish. The noise of that car added nothing to the experience.
I'll be the first to admit that right now I don't really see any 'fun' EV's on sale. But they do have plenty of positives over and above fuel cost saving alone. For 'normal' daily use they are brilliant. And having driven them for a few years now, I can certainly see the potential for 'fun' EV cars going forward.
cerb4.5lee said:
Of course they're a separate club. ICE drivers don't mind spending a few quid on fuel/tax, whereas EV drivers are tight gits in comparison, and they want something for nothing if they can get it I reckon.
Or have I got that generalisation wrong? I see loads of Tesla's out on the roads everyday for example, and I can't imagine that any of those have been "heart" purchases for me, and they're a simple "head" purchase to save a few quid on running costs I think.
What if the saving is spent on something special and ICE in the garage Lee?Or have I got that generalisation wrong? I see loads of Tesla's out on the roads everyday for example, and I can't imagine that any of those have been "heart" purchases for me, and they're a simple "head" purchase to save a few quid on running costs I think.
Paul_M3 said:
Honestly mate, I'm really not the only one.
There will be a huge amount people who like and appreciate both types of cars. Car's have always been horses for courses.
A 911 GT3 RS is fantastic, but it's bloody rubbish if you want to take two kids and a dog down the beach.
Let's be honest. Most ICE cars that people own are both boring and sound rubbish. Hell, I personally thought even my supercharged Lotus Elise sounded pretty rubbish. The noise of that car added nothing to the experience.
I'll be the first to admit that right now I don't really see any 'fun' EV's on sale. But they do have plenty of positives over and above fuel cost saving alone. For 'normal' daily use they are brilliant. And having driven them for a few years now, I can certainly see the potential for 'fun' EV cars going forward.
cerb4.5lee said:
Yes and I can understand that way of doing it Nick. Plus for all my usual moaning and groaning about EVs, I do genuinely see them as a good fit as a local runabout to be honest.
Yes me too, that's where I have predicted I would end up a long time ago. x1 ICE and x1 EV. Soon probably.Rat_Fink_67 said:
Paul_M3 said:
Honestly mate, I'm really not the only one.
There will be a huge amount people who like and appreciate both types of cars. Car's have always been horses for courses.
A 911 GT3 RS is fantastic, but it's bloody rubbish if you want to take two kids and a dog down the beach.
Let's be honest. Most ICE cars that people own are both boring and sound rubbish. Hell, I personally thought even my supercharged Lotus Elise sounded pretty rubbish. The noise of that car added nothing to the experience.
I'll be the first to admit that right now I don't really see any 'fun' EV's on sale. But they do have plenty of positives over and above fuel cost saving alone. For 'normal' daily use they are brilliant. And having driven them for a few years now, I can certainly see the potential for 'fun' EV cars going forward.
People will always be very happy to avoid paying ANY type of tax if they can. The only difference is that the anti-EV mob are trying to use it as another thing to latch on to.
Do you seriously think ICE drivers wouldn't be doing the same if a similar rule change affected them???
cerb4.5lee said:
Yes and I can understand that way of doing it Nick. Plus for all my usual moaning and groaning about EVs, I do genuinely see them as a good fit as a local runabout to be honest.
But again, do you possibly need a mindset change? Where have you got this 'local runabout' thing from? (Unless you class 'local runabout' as round trips under 250 miles???)Medium length journeys are if anything where they come into their element.
One of the things that car reviewers used to say about high end cars like Rolls Royces (as a random example) was how journeys were relaxing because of how smooth and quiet they were, and that you could barely even tell when it changed gear.
Well guess what even the cheapest EV does purely by nature of its drive train?
In the grand scheme of things, not many people do journeys of more than 250 miles. (The UK average is down to around 8000 miles per year now. That's an average of around 150 miles per WEEK) And if they do have to do longer journeys it'll maybe be once or twice per year. So even in the worst case, you could have a couple of journeys a year extended by 30 or 40 minutes. In return, you get multiple benefits for the other 360 odd days.
I know every circumstance is different and of course there are of people do regular long journeys. For those people they should probably wait a few more years for the technology to improve further.
But to put it perspective, I do around 10,000 miles per year, so well above the UK average. I've owned an EV for nearly 4 years now and I STILL haven't yet used a public charger....
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