Le Mans & Brexit
Discussion
Big Robbo said:
The French are not going to risk losing any tourism money that's generated
Yep, absolutely. However, the worry here shouldn't be "Project Fear Mk2" pushed by the People's Vote bunch, the worry should be the Yellow Vest movement in France. Forget what the PC media in this country are showing on the TV at the moment, which is just communist/socialist thugs smashing up Paris, but have a look on the likes of You Tube at what's going on in the rest of the country with the Yellow Vests shutting down the road networks etc. and the police sitting back and doing nothing.
To me, France is on the brink of civil war and it's all over taxation (mainly the pushing of this climate change nonsense to increase taxes), the EU and immigration. Forget the Brexit bollix, keep an eye on this Yellow Vest stuff - that's the real threat here.
LeMansNut said:
Yep, absolutely.
However, the worry here shouldn't be "Project Fear Mk2" pushed by the People's Vote bunch, the worry should be the Yellow Vest movement in France. Forget what the PC media in this country are showing on the TV at the moment, which is just communist/socialist thugs smashing up Paris, but have a look on the likes of You Tube at what's going on in the rest of the country with the Yellow Vests shutting down the road networks etc. and the police sitting back and doing nothing.
To me, France is on the brink of civil war and it's all over taxation (mainly the pushing of this climate change nonsense to increase taxes), the EU and immigration. Forget the Brexit bollix, keep an eye on this Yellow Vest stuff - that's the real threat here.
I'm finding blockades in cities (roundabouts especially), but I'm not finding anything about main motorways being blocked. I'm driving to Le Mans on Easter Saturday in the early hours of the morning for the Moto 24hrs. I'll be going through Rouen about 9am, I doubt anything would have organised itself that early. I'm interested to know if I'm wrong or if I should expect to find any other blockages. I've only got about 3 hrs spare in my plan from the start of the raceHowever, the worry here shouldn't be "Project Fear Mk2" pushed by the People's Vote bunch, the worry should be the Yellow Vest movement in France. Forget what the PC media in this country are showing on the TV at the moment, which is just communist/socialist thugs smashing up Paris, but have a look on the likes of You Tube at what's going on in the rest of the country with the Yellow Vests shutting down the road networks etc. and the police sitting back and doing nothing.
To me, France is on the brink of civil war and it's all over taxation (mainly the pushing of this climate change nonsense to increase taxes), the EU and immigration. Forget the Brexit bollix, keep an eye on this Yellow Vest stuff - that's the real threat here.
wsn03 said:
I'm finding blockades in cities (roundabouts especially), but I'm not finding anything about main motorways being blocked. I'm driving to Le Mans on Easter Saturday in the early hours of the morning for the Moto 24hrs. I'll be going through Rouen about 9am, I doubt anything would have organised itself that early. I'm interested to know if I'm wrong or if I should expect to find any other blockages. I've only got about 3 hrs spare in my plan from the start of the race
I've got to know locals in a village just south of the circuit (15mins away) and on their facebook posts there have been yellow vest action on the roads in that area. I don't think you'd call them riot type scenarios but it adds to the fact its going on in quieter parts also.It wouldn't take much for the le mans weekend to be brought to its knees traffic wise. It struggles as it is, so start adding in disruption at major link roads in and it could be interesting. It would be down to how much the police were willing to get it moving again.
DS240 said:
wsn03 said:
I'm finding blockades in cities (roundabouts especially), but I'm not finding anything about main motorways being blocked. I'm driving to Le Mans on Easter Saturday in the early hours of the morning for the Moto 24hrs. I'll be going through Rouen about 9am, I doubt anything would have organised itself that early. I'm interested to know if I'm wrong or if I should expect to find any other blockages. I've only got about 3 hrs spare in my plan from the start of the race
I've got to know locals in a village just south of the circuit (15mins away) and on their facebook posts there have been yellow vest action on the roads in that area. I don't think you'd call them riot type scenarios but it adds to the fact its going on in quieter parts also.It wouldn't take much for the le mans weekend to be brought to its knees traffic wise. It struggles as it is, so start adding in disruption at major link roads in and it could be interesting. It would be down to how much the police were willing to get it moving again.
I might leave the UK an hour earlier just to be safe
DS240 said:
I've got to know locals in a village just south of the circuit (15mins away) and on their facebook posts there have been yellow vest action on the roads in that area. I don't think you'd call them riot type scenarios but it adds to the fact its going on in quieter parts also.
It wouldn't take much for the le mans weekend to be brought to its knees traffic wise. It struggles as it is, so start adding in disruption at major link roads in and it could be interesting. It would be down to how much the police were willing to get it moving again.
This is what I've seen on You Tube, vids of yellow vests bringing everything to a grinding halt outside of the cities and in a peaceful manner too. Even the cops are joining in OR are totally passive and not getting in the way of the people. It wouldn't take much for the le mans weekend to be brought to its knees traffic wise. It struggles as it is, so start adding in disruption at major link roads in and it could be interesting. It would be down to how much the police were willing to get it moving again.
The PC media in the UK are only showing the thugs rioting in the cities because they don't want us plebs to know that we can bring a PC government to it's knees by simply blocking a few major roads. In fact, it's the peaceful yellow vest action which forced Macron to buckle and not the communist thugs rioting in Paris.
I tell you, this EU is crumbling big time and, from an LM perspective, Brexit should be the least of one's concerns.
I drove through Rouen recently and the only sight of Gillet Jaunes was at the Cow roundabout, or as it is now, the totally barren roundabout, not a Cow nor blade of grass in sight. There were a couple of wooden pallets in the road causing us to single file past but we were only delayed by a couple of minutes, so no big deal. Other than that, between the tunnel and the Mayenne, we didn't see any protestors. Plenty of wrecked cash raising machines though!!!
OFORBES said:
Although, after saying that, I have realised that I am taking one of my works sprinters rather than a car!!
That's the bit I find more interesting. My brother in law has a Sprinter van and has suggested taking it over. I have a slight concern about taking a commercial vehicle post Brexit. Anyone got any thoughts?Poshbury said:
I drove through Rouen recently and the only sight of Gillet Jaunes was at the Cow roundabout, or as it is now, the totally barren roundabout, not a Cow nor blade of grass in sight. There were a couple of wooden pallets in the road causing us to single file past but we were only delayed by a couple of minutes, so no big deal. Other than that, between the tunnel and the Mayenne, we didn't see any protestors. Plenty of wrecked cash raising machines though!!!
They were there in December so on the return I drove over the river and used the road on the right bank, remember when the bridge was closed?No sign of G Y’s on the road just cow roundabout on the way out.
I’ll be down in 4 weeks see what happens then.
As far as I know, it's a six month recommended minimum for non-EU countries - but there's no such restriction in the EU.
Looked into it recently as one of our family passports is expiring, and it's an advisory only for if we leave the EU without a deal on movement.
It could still be agreed as part of a Brexit deal, if it goes ahead.
Current passport wait time is about 7 days, and it's looking more likely that there could be a Brexit delay - so I'd hold tight for a while.
Looked into it recently as one of our family passports is expiring, and it's an advisory only for if we leave the EU without a deal on movement.
It could still be agreed as part of a Brexit deal, if it goes ahead.
Current passport wait time is about 7 days, and it's looking more likely that there could be a Brexit delay - so I'd hold tight for a while.
Guidance re. International Drivers' Permits has recently changed online. It's still a 'may' but previous info said deal or no deal, we should be OK in France/Spain et al but the current guidance seems to be erring towards it would be a good idea to get said permits. Available from many post offices with a £5.50 fee, your passport and driver's licence for ID and a passport photo:
https://www.postoffice.co.uk/international-driving...
Confusingly, there are two International Permits: 1949 and 1968. For France, you need 1968.
For the sake of £11 I'm getting both as I'm visiting France and Spain (1949 version) this year.
Chrisgr31 said:
There were suggestions at one point there would be restrictions on commercial vehicles, but I am not sure what the definition of a commercial vehicle is.
My worry isn't the van causing me any particular problems, more how little it takes for Dover / The Tunnel to become Fubar'd, still, what will be will be, in the face of adversity I'll keep a stiff upper lip and put the kettle on.Gassing Station | Le Mans | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff