Spectator announcement

[Powerfully Built PSC Director - Outside IR35]

Tyre Smoke said:

Link?

They always open the Sunday before. Might just mean no security or marshals until Wednesday?

https://tentenths.com/forum/showthread.php?t=154204&page=38

[lowdrag]

FredericRobinson said:

I've seen on another forum where GT6 has got his info from and see no reason to doubt it, if you have local contacts who has confirm either way it"d be very useful, I'm booked to go out on the Saturday and the rest of my group are looking to book a Monday night crossing this week

All I did was to go to the ACO site and copy the post. Not some fanciful other site, but the horse's mouth. I'll ring them in the morning.

[vincegail]

FredericRobinson said:

I was wrong as to who got the email, not that it really matters. where did the idea that it's 2 pm the sites open come from? That's not on the email is it?

Edited by FredericRobinson on Friday 10th July 22:54

I never said I received the email. I said "a friend of mine". And he has now posted a screenshot of said mail.
Thx for the faith in me by the way

[vincegail]

FredericRobinson said:

I was wrong as to who got the email, not that it really matters. where did the idea that it's 2 pm the sites open come from? That's not on the email is it?

Edited by FredericRobinson on Friday 10th July 22:54

It is on the email, but one or two email sent before that. I had that email forwarded to me and it definitely said 2 pm.

[vincegail]

lowdrag said:

All I did was to go to the ACO site and copy the post. Not some fanciful other site, but the horse's mouth. I'll ring them in the morning.

The "false" rumours you are referring to, came from the horse's mouth. Not some fanciful other site. Yes, gt6 shared the information I shared on that fanciful other site with the people on this forum, but that doesn't mean the initial source of that information was some fanciful site. The initial source of that information was the email chasingracecars had received from the ACO, as I had stated on that fanciful site "A friend of mine contacted the ACO regarding campsite opening times, and they will open on the wednesday at 14.00hrs." He forwarded said mail to me, and in the back and forward conversation between him and the ACO you can clearly make out the campsites open wednesday 14.00 hrs. The screenshot doesn't tell the whole tale.

lowdrag said:

If only people would bother to spend a minute (maximum) on the internet before spreading false rumours - sigh.

Turns out that you are the one spreading false rumours -sigh-
Please spend a minute (maximum) on the phone to the ACO before tarnishing someone. Thanks in advance.

Edited by vincegail on Saturday 11th July 06:07

[Powerfully Built PSC Director - Outside IR35]

vincegail said:

Turns out that you are the one spreading false rumours -sigh-
Please spend a minute (maximum) on the phone to the ACO before tarnishing someone. Thanks in advance.

Edited by vincegail on Saturday 11th July 06:07

Unfortunately, gt6 opted not to reveal his source, was very cryptic and, although my fault, caused some bad feeling. Why didn’t he just provide a link to the other place? Even Fred kept mentioning a forum and talking about “2pm” but those not in the know were none the wiser that Fred and a few others here were having a cross forum chat. It just seems a bit odd but explains some of the weird posts I’ve seen here over the last few weeks.

[gt6]

It is rather sad the way this forum has gone recently, over the last 12 years i have been a member, it has always been pleasant and a helpful tool for people wanting to attend the great race and a font of knowledge of things le mans related. i have always tried to help people as best i can with the experience i have gained over 37 years of attending the race, the current situation is not perfect but i was trying to help as i knew people would be booking crossings and that information effectively changes what days you would need to book those crossings. Like many on here i am in several other le mans forums and a good deal of information can be found on those, some are more friendly than others and have better sources of information. I will in future take more care with what i post on here as the tone of some people makes it a less welcoming place to be which is a great shame.

Edited by gt6 on Saturday 11th July 07:57

[Tyre Smoke]

Ultimately I will take Lowdrag's comments over anything else.
I'm not suggesting the information posted and linked to is made up, but it's clearly wrong.
Even with only 50,000 turning up, there would be carnage if the campsites didn't open until Wednesday. There would be queues for miles (kilometres if you prefer) all around the circuit.

Clear to me that whoever answered that query at the ACO has confused car parks with campsites.

Not that it overly bothers me, we will be fine in the caravan in the MM Arena car park.

[surveyor]

Tyre Smoke said:

Ultimately I will take Lowdrag's comments over anything else.
I'm not suggesting the information posted and linked to is made up, but it's clearly wrong.
Even with only 50,000 turning up, there would be carnage if the campsites didn't open until Wednesday. There would be queues for miles (kilometres if you prefer) all around the circuit.

Clear to me that whoever answered that query at the ACO has confused car parks with campsites.

Not that it overly bothers me, we will be fine in the caravan in the MM Arena car park.

I suspect you are right and and it’s a shame that two people who have both tried to help have got excited.

Now if the website gets changed.... as you say carnage.

[chasingracecars]

Tyre Smoke said:

Ultimately I will take Lowdrag's comments over anything else.
I'm not suggesting the information posted and linked to is made up, but it's clearly wrong.
Even with only 50,000 turning up, there would be carnage if the campsites didn't open until Wednesday. There would be queues for miles (kilometres if you prefer) all around the circuit.

Clear to me that whoever answered that query at the ACO has confused car parks with campsites.

Not that it overly bothers me, we will be fine in the caravan in the MM Arena car park.

I did actually ask that!

[Tyre Smoke]

I'm sure you did. But it's wrong nevertheless.

Has to be.

[lowdrag]

Gentlemen, please understand that I do what I can as a local, and hope my information is correct. However, Tuesday is July 14th (Bastille Day) so a bank holiday (they don't seem to have Trafalgar day or Waterloo day) If I know anything the ACO administration will not turn up Monday so a nice long weekend in prospect. Expect my reply on Wednesday then. In the mean time this is where I got my information:-

https://www.lemans.org/en/useful-data/car-parks-ca...

And we all know that where administration is concerned the ACO is summum con laude, n'est ce pas

[Tyre Smoke]

Thanks.

Why would they change the opening of the sites? Even the ACO would see it's daft. I agree there might be less students to 'police' but I can see the gates being thrown open, but no access to the track. Quite how that would work on Maison Blanche I don't know.

As I say, not overly concerned one way or another as I'm bring the caravan and can cope anywhere with or without 240 hookup for a day or two. But I could foresee quite some drama for anyone turning up with just tents, etc on Tuesday for example.

[wsn03]

Hmmm....i go out last night for a few beers and 2 pages of posts have appeared in what looks like a possible argument. Maybe im asleep in a ditch somewhere...

Must buy my GA tickets today

[LM240]

It is an unusual time and our big event is up in the air. Let’s look at the info out there and try and not shoot down contributors. We’re all worried about plans with our tried and tested routines turned upside down. I’m getting really anxious about actually being able to get over in my car with the state of our ferry options locally.

If we do manage to watch the race, I think it is going to be very different to what we usually expect. I would not be surprised if there are severely reduced services and restrictions around the circuit.

If the event is not gearing up for the full blown attendance, there will be services that make no sense to operate. Going by ‘the usual’ or 2019 info may not work.

I could envisage the late opening of the campsites being possible. The numbers will be so reduced who are actually camping that I don’t think there will be gridlock in Le Mans if opening on the Wednesday. They may even consolidate the camp sites that are open to save on resourcing.

I think if it runs with reduced spectators, it will be a bare bones event. I see it possible;
- None of the stalls/shops open in the circuit village areas or other promotional areas.
- Much reduced food and drink outlets.
- No fun fair items.
- The whole paddock area will be closed off to public and no pit lane walks, plus no track invasion allowed at the end of the race.

Turning up and expecting it to be like normal just isn’t going to happen. If it looks and feels normal, well I’ll be very surprised.

[Tyre Smoke]

I'll be a bit more than miffed if there's no paddock access or grid walk, etc. That's what I've paid extra for!

[LM240]

Tyre Smoke said:

I'll be a bit more than miffed if there's no paddock access or grid walk, etc. That's what I've paid extra for!

I’d look at the F1 set up in place and picture something very similar to that.

Like I said before. If it is resembling normal, I’ll be very surprised.

The fact it is (we believe) going ahead with spectators is going to be a push, let alone allowing it to resemble how a ‘normal’ event would.

[Tyre Smoke]

Still a relatively long way off yet. A lot can change.

[Big Robbo]

I think it is possible that the campsites will be open later in the week, however, at the moment the ACO website is saying open as normal.
We don't need to fall out about everybody just trying to help

[Nickdfabalus]

Seems to be a few know it all s on hear, as far as I can tell chasingcars and vince only trying to be helpful as the official website is at odds with a more recent and direct email.
Suspect super powerful psc director guy knows everything about everything all the time and is one of those guys who’s cock is actually smaller when erect!!