2021 - Don't get too excited

2021 - Don't get too excited

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Vette_1978

3,111 posts

186 months

Wednesday 24th February
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I think with us it depends on what life is like in France with shops, curfews, restaurants, bars etc. Last year we had a great time with everything open, so we could have a few beers, meal at Buffalo Grill, meet up with Le Yorker and LowDrag, helicopter flight, beer on Mulsanne, was all very pleasant. If this year they are in almost lockdown with extra restrictions then it’s no fun, so time will tell.

MG CHRIS

7,718 posts

131 months

Thursday 25th February
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Cases in france look like they may shot up next couple of weeks the kent variant is over there and spreading fast with such a poor vaccine role out and a population that doesn't really want the vaccine one of the most anti-vax countries there is no way the race will go ahead in june of if it does it be with no spectators.

wsn03

1,577 posts

65 months

Thursday 25th February
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MG CHRIS said:
Cases in france look like they may shot up next couple of weeks the kent variant is over there and spreading fast with such a poor vaccine role out and a population that doesn't really want the vaccine one of the most anti-vax countries there is no way the race will go ahead in june of if it does it be with no spectators.
And to think I always thought France would be the perfect place to be always. Ffs...how has the UK become the example of how to do things? World's gone mad!

Truckosaurus

8,220 posts

248 months

Friday 26th February
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wsn03 said:
Ffs...how has the UK become the example of how to do things? World's gone mad!
More by L than J.


wsn03

1,577 posts

65 months

Friday 26th February
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Truckosaurus said:
wsn03 said:
Ffs...how has the UK become the example of how to do things? World's gone mad!
More by L than J.
I presume J = Johnson. Who is L ?

Oh hang on...more luck than judgement!

//j17

3,679 posts

187 months

Friday 26th February
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wsn03 said:
Ffs...how has the UK become the example of how to do things? World's gone mad!
I take it you're squinting REALLY tightly and JUST looking at the vaccination numbers, and not our world leading death rate?

wsn03

1,577 posts

65 months

Friday 26th February
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//j17 said:
wsn03 said:
Ffs...how has the UK become the example of how to do things? World's gone mad!
I take it you're squinting REALLY tightly and JUST looking at the vaccination numbers, and not our world leading death rate?
I sometimes wonder if the bit we got wrong was reporting every death as being covid.
But i just can't believe we're way ahead of everyone on vaccine rollout- Germany, Netherlands...wtf???

leyorkie

1,229 posts

140 months

Friday 26th February
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There’s no way that France will have an effective vaccination roll out. Friends in mid 70s can’t get a jab, no organised centres very different to here. Doctors often work alone no receptionist no group surgeries so their not getting involved. Forecast for completion is anywhere from August for at risk and March 2022 for everybody who will have a jab, take up as low at 50%.

Tyre Smoke

17,078 posts

225 months

Saturday 27th February
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French and Germans wary of Astra Zenica jab apparently. Couple that with a Daily Wail headline today questioning why every death is being marked as Covid when it obviously wasn't the cause, and you can see how figures are manipulated.

I really don't think UK deaths are significantly higher than a comparable country, but UK vaccine rollout is absolutely superb. Two reasons for that I think, one, UK ordered loads of vaccines when it could without having to go via Brussels for the 'OK' and two it deflects nicely (rightly or wrongly) from Brexit showing what UK can do when "we go it alone".

Problem is now UK will be in a NZ situation with a protected population and strict border control. But unlike NZ, a population that wants to go and visit the neighbours across the Channel.

Man-At-Arms

5,324 posts

143 months

Saturday 27th February
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Tyre Smoke said:
Problem is now UK will be in a NZ situation with a protected population and strict border control. But unlike NZ, a population that wants to go and visit the neighbours across the Channel.
If positive numbers increase during LM, then the UK government will put France on the red list, and we’ll all have to spend 10days at the Dover travelodge and it’ll cost £1700 for the privilege !

MG CHRIS

7,718 posts

131 months

Saturday 27th February
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leyorkie said:
There’s no way that France will have an effective vaccination roll out. Friends in mid 70s can’t get a jab, no organised centres very different to here. Doctors often work alone no receptionist no group surgeries so their not getting involved. Forecast for completion is anywhere from August for at risk and March 2022 for everybody who will have a jab, take up as low at 50%.
Its going to be another 2-3 months before the order from the eu to Pfizer vaccine comes in so that's up to may, also france have a very high anti vax % of population so even if they had the vaccine it still wouldn't be enough. Also we had the oxford one isn't good for over 65 age group circulating in Europe with no basis in any sort of facts again make people not want it. There is some 1.2million unused oxford vaccine in germany alone let alone rest of Europe.
Either lemans will be postponed till September where hopefully the case number drop or it be behind closed door in june again,

//j17

3,679 posts

187 months

Monday 1st March
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[quote=MG CHRISAlso we had the oxford one isn't good for over 65 age group circulating in Europe with no basis in any sort of facts again make people not want it.
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A classic case of governments underestimating the intelligence of the average person.

What several EU governments said was that, unlike other vaccines they had bought the Oxford one hadn't been tested on over 65s, so they didn't recommend that jab for that group. What they meant was "So prioritize other jabs for the O65s/use the Oxford one first for U65s". What the 'Le Express du Jour" and "Die Tag Express" readers took it to mean was "The Oxford jab isn't safe".

Never underestimate the stupidity of the average person.

Truckosaurus

8,220 posts

248 months

Monday 1st March
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//j17 said:
...Never underestimate the stupidity of the average person.
50% of people are of Below Average Intelligence biggrin

I've given up worrying about LM. Even if it is moved to September we won't know until pretty much the day you travel if you'll be allowed into France, and you're also hoping they'll give a few days notice of any quarantine (as they did recently, although now that loads of sickly Brazilians rushed back before the cutoff that might not happen) so you can get home again.

My annual travel insurance policy re-news ealry April, I wonder what Covid related clauses they'll add for this year. I'm not sure they'd want to cover refunds on expensive sporting events.

Vette_1978

3,111 posts

186 months

Monday 1st March
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Well the news that WEC Spa and Portimao are behind closed doors is a bit of a pain. I had hoped that the EU travel restrictions might get lifted early and give my lad a chance to see the C8-R up close and in person. Just need to be positive that LM or LMC might happen this year with crowds.

LawrieC

293 posts

68 months

Tuesday 2nd March
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I can see that the British Grand Prix in July is in with a chance of having spectators, due to the % of vaccinations, but the French won't get that far till Christmas. There's still the problem of vaccine certificates, as it looks likely they'll be needed for international travel (and large events with big crowds)

wsn03

1,577 posts

65 months

Tuesday 2nd March
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My hopes for motor racing rest on the UK domestic scene August onwards - I'm hoping to be able to watch one or two of the British Superbike rounds. Anything in Europe I've crossed off the list for this year, with a proper plan instead for 2022 - should be straightforward enough (cos only 1 million + will have the same idea as me)

On that note just how rammed do we think Le Mans 2022 is going to be?

Edited by wsn03 on Tuesday 2nd March 16:13

FredericRobinson

2,341 posts

196 months

Tuesday 2nd March
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wsn03 said:
My hopes for motor racing rest on the UK domestic scene August onwards - I'm hoping to be able to watch one or two of the British Superbike rounds. Anything in Europe I've crossed off the list for this year, with a proper plan instead for 2022 - should be straightforward enough (cos only 1 million + will have the same idea as me)

On that note just how rammed do we think Le Mans 2022 is going to be?

Edited by wsn03 on Tuesday 2nd March 16:13
Not as rammed as 2023 with all the new manufacturers added to it being the 100th anniversary

FredericRobinson

2,341 posts

196 months

Tuesday 2nd March
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Racer.com suggesting a move to 21/22nd August is on the cards

W111AAM

596 posts

196 months

Tuesday 2nd March
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Do you also think it's safe to say the Le Mans Classic in July is unlikely to happen?

ellroy

6,510 posts

189 months

Tuesday 2nd March
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Link for the date change for those interested:

https://racer.com/2021/03/02/le-mans-24-hour-tippe...

Is Marshall Pruett, so a fairly reliable journalist type, he broke the Ferrari LMHypercar news.