2021 - Don't get too excited

2021 - Don't get too excited

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Tyre Smoke

17,463 posts

227 months

Friday 7th May
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Great Dane said:
Welshbeef said:
Strange - especially from the 3rd highest vaccinated country in the world.
Have you goy a vaccine passport . in my native Denmark, they are queing up to get one. I know which ones the ACO would like EU country citizen with a vaccine passport or a third country citizen without... just saying
Utter crap!



lowdrag

11,492 posts

179 months

Friday 7th May
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We are putting the barricades up and accepting only visitors who know the password. Problem is, at my age, I've forgotten it wink

Oldwolf

518 posts

159 months

Friday 7th May
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lowdrag said:
We are putting the barricades up and accepting only visitors who know the password. Problem is, at my age, I've forgotten it wink
F1 might only have one driver allowed into France then...
It is I... LeClerc! 😉

lowdrag

11,492 posts

179 months

Friday 7th May
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Yes, I've heard of him. He supplements the family income stocking shelves at our local branch I believe, as Sebastian Bourdais did in the day.

slartibartfast

3,914 posts

167 months

Monday 10th May
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mixed feelings about this:-

'“We are confident to organize Le Mans with public, we don’t know how many people,” said Fillon.

“Not 250,000 for sure. We are working to test all the spectators, to organize that with a passport.'

ACO “Confident” of Having Fans at Rescheduled 24H Le Mans
https://sportscar365.com/lemans/wec/aco-confident-...

Edited by slartibartfast on Monday 10th May 19:03

LawrieC

314 posts

70 months

Monday 10th May
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slartibartfast said:
mixed feelings about this:-

'“We are confident to organize......
Yes, nobody has a crystal ball that good. August is still 3 months away, and a lot could happen, probably good

delta0

1,409 posts

72 months

Monday 10th May
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slartibartfast said:
mixed feelings about this:-

'“We are confident to organize Le Mans with public, we don’t know how many people,” said Fillon.

“Not 250,000 for sure. We are working to test all the spectators, to organize that with a passport.'

ACO “Confident” of Having Fans at Rescheduled 24H Le Mans
https://sportscar365.com/lemans/wec/aco-confident-...

Edited by slartibartfast on Monday 10th May 19:03
I suspect something like last year (before it was cancelled) with limited numbers and maybe segmented track. They will probably have to stop people going into town if that is the case. However it’s probably too early to say what they will do beyond reducing numbers. I’ve pretty much given up going this year. Booked Festival of Speed instead to get me through to next year when things should be back to normal.

DangerDoom

176 posts

93 months

Tuesday 11th May
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More generally, i.e. not specific to Le Mans... are campsites expected to operate in France this summer?

Let's say the ACO:

a) Offered limited capacity grandstand seats (on the basis that if it works for football, and it can work for the Monaco F1, it can work for other events).
b) Offered limited capacity camping with only the campsites that have direct access to the track open (e.g. Maison Blanche, Arnage, Mulsanne, etc...) and simply operated them as campsites - on the basis that you're only allowed in the campsite if you have a camping pass (unlike GA tickets and MB in a normal year) - and that your campsite is the only track viewing that you have.

Thought process is... what's the difference between running a campsite in the Dordogne and running a campsite in Le Mans (that happens to be next to the racing circuit and at the same time as a race)?

lowdrag

11,492 posts

179 months

Tuesday 11th May
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DangerDoom said:
Thought process is... what's the difference between running a campsite in the Dordogne and running a campsite in Le Mans (that happens to be next to the racing circuit and at the same time as a race)?
The difference is huge. The ACO do not run camp sites in the Dordogne. Thank God.

DangerDoom

176 posts

93 months

Tuesday 11th May
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Amen to that!

Truckosaurus

8,412 posts

250 months

Tuesday 11th May
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DangerDoom said:
More generally, i.e. not specific to Le Mans... are campsites expected to operate in France this summer?

Let's say the ACO:

a) Offered limited capacity grandstand seats (on the basis that if it works for football, and it can work for the Monaco F1, it can work for other events).
b) Offered limited capacity camping with only the campsites that have direct access to the track open (e.g. Maison Blanche, Arnage, Mulsanne, etc...) and simply operated them as campsites - on the basis that you're only allowed in the campsite if you have a camping pass (unlike GA tickets and MB in a normal year) - and that your campsite is the only track viewing that you have.

Thought process is... what's the difference between running a campsite in the Dordogne and running a campsite in Le Mans (that happens to be next to the racing circuit and at the same time as a race)?
Option C) could be no camping to reduce numbers of 'outsiders' and there less mingling in bars and shops in the town...

It appears other French outdoors events are being allowed if they can spread people out to a density of 1 per square metre.

LawrieC

314 posts

70 months

Wednesday 12th May
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lowdrag said:
The difference is huge. The ACO do not run camp sites in the Dordogne. Thank God.
Have you been down there recently (well, within the last 3 years) Its starting to look like they are. The Brits are going elsewhere (well, nowhere at the minute)

cn7k7

83 posts

110 months

Wednesday 12th May
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Truckosaurus said:
Option C) could be no camping to reduce numbers of 'outsiders' and there less mingling in bars and shops in the town...

It appears other French outdoors events are being allowed if they can spread people out to a density of 1 per square metre.
I think your plan C is an excellent idea, I’d still attend and stay at a nearby village or town....as you say it spreads it out. Trackside density is only really high at the start and the finish and given the many remarks read it seems that a vaccination passport will be required for entry and thus a large crowd can still be envisaged....the actual chance of transmission outside is pretty much nil and in the heat even lower.

If France gets out of ‘amber’ I’ll be going anyway and dependent upon diary may even do so if it remains in ‘amber’ but doesn’t retract my travel that end....I’ll be fully vaccinated by then anyway and normal mitigation keeps one safe

lowdrag

11,492 posts

179 months

Wednesday 12th May
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Well, since Macron has followed the lead of Mitterand ("Chernobyl will stop at the french border") and Covid will go away for the first day of the French holiday season all will be fine and dandy. Not a care in the world.

rdjohn

4,967 posts

161 months

Wednesday 12th May
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...but he also said that there would not be another lockdown.

So he just invented another name for it. The King Canute of the third wave.

DangerDoom

176 posts

93 months

Wednesday 12th May
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Plan C would be good - although if any kind of spectating is an option for most Brits it will be the quarantine requirements on returning home that may be decisive.

Maybe I missed it (apologies) but what's the story with some of the travel organisers? Looks like they've just given up on 2021 and shifted their focus to 2022.

https://traveldestinations.co.uk/motorsport-events...

https://tickets-2-u.com/motorsport-events/le-mans-...

Printertosh

551 posts

134 months

Wednesday 12th May
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DangerDoom said:
Plan C would be good - although if any kind of spectating is an option for most Brits it will be the quarantine requirements on returning home that may be decisive.

Maybe I missed it (apologies) but what's the story with some of the travel organisers? Looks like they've just given up on 2021 and shifted their focus to 2022.

https://traveldestinations.co.uk/motorsport-events...

https://tickets-2-u.com/motorsport-events/le-mans-...
Did I miss something too... has Le Mans 24hrs 2022 been confirmed as 11-12 June 2022? I was hoping they'd drop it back a week as it's shifting further away from the longest day! The earliest it's been held in the last 20 years is 11-12 June (2011) and more recent 18-19 June in 2016 (as well as 2005).

Great Dane

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132 months

Wednesday 12th May
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surveyor

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150 months

Wednesday 12th May
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lowdrag

11,492 posts

179 months

Wednesday 12th May
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Printertosh said:
Did I miss something too... has Le Mans 24hrs 2022 been confirmed as 11-12 June 2022? I was hoping they'd drop it back a week as it's shifting further away from the longest day! The earliest it's been held in the last 20 years is 11-12 June (2011) and more recent 18-19 June in 2016 (as well as 2005).
A slight misconception I fear. It isn't the longest day that is the bellwether but the long tradition of holding the 24 Hours on the 24th weekend of the year. 2022 starts with the first weekend on Jan 1st, making five weekends in January, and the 24th weekend is the 11/12 June. Being France this rule is written in putty so we'll await their decision. Like the start time too. They changed that for the World Cup some years back. HTH

ETA:- Thinking on, the 24 Hour Classic has set a tradition of being the first weekend in July, usually three weekends after the main race, and that would be July 1st. Their web site says "first or second weekend in July" to fit in with all the clearing up etc after the main race. So they are awaiting the ACO decision too it seems. But Travel Destinations site says specifically "30th June - July 3rd" so that confirms 11/12 June for the main race. The putty is setting.


Edited by lowdrag on Wednesday 12th May 12:17