Well done Bentley!

Well done Bentley!

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ashr

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24 posts

253 months

Monday 17th March 2003
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I have always been a firm supporter of anything British, and it was good to hear that Bentley came in 3rd and 4th at the very first American Le Mans that they have entered. Hopefully, when the race goes to France, Bentley will be able to challenge Audi for their title, or at least second place.

The Germans have always had excellent cars, Audi is no exception. They finished 1st for the 3rd or 4th year in succession (I’m not quite sure), and as I understand, the team that usually wins at Sebring normally gets 1st in France, is that right?

I’m gradually learning more every day about Le Mans, and I have no idea why I didn’t start to get into this earlier as it seems to have a touch more excitement on and off track, compared to F1.



Well done Bentley

Does anyone know what’s happening to the Bentley site, all I'm getting is a car draped with the Union Jack! And nothing else!

nubbin

6,809 posts

278 months

Monday 17th March 2003
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Yeah, it's great, but aren't the Bentleys merely modified and re-badged Audis anyway?

sparkey

789 posts

284 months

Monday 17th March 2003
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No they're a completely different car. If they had been modded Audis they would have won for the last couple of years !!

ashr

Original Poster:

24 posts

253 months

Monday 17th March 2003
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So there!

RichB

51,531 posts

284 months

Monday 17th March 2003
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sparkey said: No they're a completely different car. If they had been modded Audis they would have won for the last couple of years !!
NOt if they had been modded by Audi not to win! A bit like saying Minardi should be on the pace with Ferrari.

bennno

11,615 posts

269 months

Monday 17th March 2003
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nubbin said: Yeah, it's great, but aren't the Bentleys merely modified and re-badged Audis anyway?


That does have an element of truth in it, same engine, many shared components, Audi even ran an identical looking coupe back in 99/00 before putting all of their efforts in to the LMP car.

Given they are owned by the same parent as well??

Bennno

sparkey

789 posts

284 months

Monday 17th March 2003
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RichB said:

sparkey said: No they're a completely different car. If they had been modded Audis they would have won for the last couple of years !!
NOt if they had been modded by Audi not to win! A bit like saying Minardi should be on the pace with Ferrari.





Not so, because Ferrari don't own Minardi and therefore have no interest in thier winning. Minardi are just a customer.
Bentley are however owned by Volkswagen and it is hardly in thier interest to pay for a race team and at the same time plan for them to get beaten. The development of the Bentley was for that reason kept separate from the Audi. (Albeit that they may have had access to many of the same parts).

nubbin

6,809 posts

278 months

Monday 17th March 2003
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Blimey - sorry I said anything! It was only a jest!

bennno

11,615 posts

269 months

Monday 17th March 2003
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sparkey said:

RichB said:

sparkey said: No they're a completely different car. If they had been modded Audis they would have won for the last couple of years !!
NOt if they had been modded by Audi not to win! A bit like saying Minardi should be on the pace with Ferrari.





Not so, because Ferrari don't own Minardi and therefore have no interest in thier winning. Minardi are just a customer.
Bentley are however owned by Volkswagen and it is hardly in thier interest to pay for a race team and at the same time plan for them to get beaten. The development of the Bentley was for that reason kept separate from the Audi. (Albeit that they may have had access to many of the same parts).





Sparkey,

Since when are minardi a customer of Ferrari? think you might be getting them mixed up with Sauber??

Audi wanted to win Le Mans 3 times in a row, this has now happened, they then want to build Kudos in the Bentley brand in time for the launch of their new car next year.

Its all been very carefully orchestrated, including VW Audi developing the Bentley version of the engine significantly over the winter without the same activity going on with their own engine unit!

Baring a major incident, I would be very suprised if there are not 2 Bentleys on the podium at Le Mans.

Bennno

Mark B

1,621 posts

265 months

Tuesday 18th March 2003
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Sticking my two bit in - The Bentley is designed and built in the UK, the engine is basically the same unit but has different restrictions so the engine maps will be totally different.

The Bentleys have also been run by a UK team for the last two years, although Joest have stepped in this year to cover one of the cars.

The hard top Audis from a few years back were also deisgned and built in the UK, that was a trial year to see which format worked out the best!

sparkey

789 posts

284 months

Tuesday 18th March 2003
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Yes, I did cock up the Minardi Sauber bit didn't I. Never mind, the rest of my argument is still valid (probably - until someone else points out an obvious error !)

ashr

Original Poster:

24 posts

253 months

Tuesday 18th March 2003
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Bentley are still a British racing team, okay they may used some Audi parts(maybe a whole car), but it's still a British team. That's what counts, would'nt you agree?

If England won the world cup, you would be right behind them, and rightly so. But are they all English players? It doesnt really matter in my view.

sparkey

789 posts

284 months

Tuesday 18th March 2003
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I think all the England team have to be English don't they ? I thought that was the point.

Anyway, I ordered my Bentley flag from thier website last night and shall be waving it excited at Le Mans. Achtung Bentley !

RichB

51,531 posts

284 months

Tuesday 18th March 2003
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ashr said:If England won the world cup, you would be right behind them, and rightly so. But are they all English players?
Don't really follow football do you ashr? Rich...

victormeldrew

8,293 posts

277 months

Tuesday 18th March 2003
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Ah, football. I have a friend who gets very worked up about "plastic" Man Utd supporters - people who don't come from Manchester basically. And yet, how many of the team are from Manchester? He supports Middlebrough, and as far as I can tell pretty well the entire team are from South America. How does that work?

RichB

51,531 posts

284 months

Tuesday 18th March 2003
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This is a car site so let's not take this too far... But, Middlesborough are a club side so can play pretty well who they want. England are... well England so players have to be ummm... English (let's not debate what constitues English eh?) Rich...

sparkey

789 posts

284 months

Tuesday 18th March 2003
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Seems a lot like the republic or Ireland team then (ie. Players must in thier case be ..... English)

ian d

986 posts

255 months

Wednesday 19th March 2003
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benno is spot on with the prediction: i think Bentley 1st & 3rd, Audi 2nd.
it will be a planned podium for the launch of their new Bentley Continental this year at Le Mans.

Personnally I think the new Continental looks like an Audi (especially the front) not beefy enough for a Bentley!

there goes my invite for champagne

ashr

Original Poster:

24 posts

253 months

Thursday 20th March 2003
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So you can tell that I dont follow football... Hmmm, er ,I had a good point though, if it were true...

>> Edited by ashr on Thursday 20th March 14:02

>> Edited by ashr on Thursday 20th March 14:05

FLAT 6

480 posts

260 months

Thursday 20th March 2003
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Now lads, if you're going to talk football, lets at least make it Rugby. I predict that England will go to Lansdowne Road, the weather will be rotten and David Humphreys will kick any chance of England winning the Grand Slam into history.

I know at least Sparkey will agree with me!