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DUMBO100

1,877 posts

143 months

Tuesday 17th May 2016
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James Drake said:
Just a comment on the concept of a "like" button - whilst it is very far from being something we're saying that we're going to implement, at our recent board meeting it was discussed at length.

Putting aside for one moment it being a "trend", a like button does actually serve a very good purpose - it identifies a thread or post that is popular. Currently the only way to do this (aside from reading thousands of posts per day) is based on the number of replies a thread has (the more replies, the more time the threads gets bumped too).

The limitation of this is that some of the very best posts (such as build threads) simply don't get many replies as there isn't much to say. With a "like" button we can offer a filter so people can browse through the most popular threads based on people that have read them. Hand in hand with this, it means that we can reward contributors who get positive responses to their posts - again at the moment the only metric we have is the number of times a mamber has posted.

As I say, this isn't something we're saying we're going to do, but it is interesting to understand people's reticence to the concept is often based on them thinking it is a fad and not actually understanding the true reason for doing it.

Thanks

JD
The like feature is not a trend it is an important analytical tool, it therefore seems fairly important that it is included and should have been quite a long time ago. I expected Haymarket to drag PH up to date and not back to the magazine era.

Sorry to be negative but find myself using other mediums to get my car news now when once it was only PH. The problem is that when you stop evolving is that you don't get new members and the old ones disappear through natural drop off. It is a slippery slope. I am getting a bit fed up of the lack of direction and investment. Too many people are consulting focus groups in long winded chit chat and not pushing the product forward.



AOK

2,293 posts

125 months

Wednesday 18th May 2016
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DUMBO100 said:
The like feature is not a trend it is an important analytical tool, it therefore seems fairly important that it is included and should have been quite a long time ago. I expected Haymarket to drag PH up to date and not back to the magazine era.

Sorry to be negative but find myself using other mediums to get my car news now when once it was only PH. The problem is that when you stop evolving is that you don't get new members and the old ones disappear through natural drop off. It is a slippery slope. I am getting a bit fed up of the lack of direction and investment. Too many people are consulting focus groups in long winded chit chat and not pushing the product forward.
Amazed to hear someone on here actually shares my sentiment, albeit probably not all of it

phazed

19,241 posts

163 months

Wednesday 18th May 2016
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DUMBO100 said:
The like feature is not a trend it is an important analytical tool, it therefore seems fairly important that the old ones disappear through natural drop off.
Bloody hell, I had better be vigilant as I don't want to slip over and become invisible!

facebook, pah...........

DUMBO100

1,877 posts

143 months

Wednesday 18th May 2016
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Just to moderate my tone slightly, my point is that even if the strategy is to maintain the core audience then evolution is still of great importance. The core audience is evolving (whether they like it or not) and becoming used to better functions and features, most people don't like the idea of algorithms but agree that they work well in practice. The Radio 2 comparison is relevant as over they years they have struggled with listeners expectation but they have now moved with the times and utilise social media as another channel to engage with their audience. We give PH special dispensation as we have affection for it's authenticity but looking forward we need to attract new users and make the site relevant, useful and enjoyable for us and the future generation of PHers. Let's have a like button, more video and audio and more interaction.

adingley84

334 posts

121 months

Sunday 22nd May 2016
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JD PH said:
Astacus said:
MarkRSi said:
THIS

One of the best bits of the PH forums biggrinyes
Absolutely agree with this sentiment. I cannot think of anything more likely to dissuade me from visiting PH than finding it full of the "younger audience"
also fkwittery like animated signatures
Don't worry - alienating our existing audience is absolutely not something that we want to do!
I think PH is in the situation Jaguar was in the mid-2000's.

It's a decent proposition but not doing a lot to entice a new customer base. Jag delivered the XF which acted as a transition point for traditional customers and new alike...I see that being what PH needs to achieve.

Feels like you see PH in that place too which is a good thing ☺☺☺

adingley84

334 posts

121 months

Sunday 22nd May 2016
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AOK said:
DUMBO100 said:
The like feature is not a trend it is an important analytical tool, it therefore seems fairly important that it is included and should have been quite a long time ago. I expected Haymarket to drag PH up to date and not back to the magazine era.

Sorry to be negative but find myself using other mediums to get my car news now when once it was only PH. The problem is that when you stop evolving is that you don't get new members and the old ones disappear through natural drop off. It is a slippery slope. I am getting a bit fed up of the lack of direction and investment. Too many people are consulting focus groups in long winded chit chat and not pushing the product forward.
Amazed to hear someone on here actually shares my sentiment, albeit probably not all of it
I hear and agree with you both! I work in digital transformation and can see PH slipping behind, but desperately want it to succeed for all the help, advice and entertainment its provided me.

I wonder the profle of who is in the select 200-500? Does it cover a wide enough demographic? Does PH really understand the demographic of the users and what motivates them?

I'd love to help turn this ship around and head straight into battle with the new startups!

tosh.brice

181 posts

170 months

Tuesday 1st May 2018
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I have a comment on your ESC article. What is written about over- and understeer sounds wrong to me and likely to exacerbate the situation. Your article, which does not permit comment, is contradicted by Wikipedia, which says:
"Braking is automatically applied to wheels individually, such as the outer front wheel to counter oversteer or the inner rear wheel to counter understeer."