New Dacia or something else?

New Dacia or something else?

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Original Poster:

924 posts

106 months

Saturday 12th November 2016
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I've never bought a brand new car and really fancy 3 years without the hassle of MOTs.

I need 4 doors and ability to carry a large backseat passenger, two lots of shopping and a folding wheelchair.

I've got about a maximum of £8-9k to spend - tops.

I've thought about the Dacia models - any would fit the bill.

Is there anything better available new.

Or something used, that you would recommend.

anonymous-user

54 months

Saturday 12th November 2016
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I'd say go for it. Just don't expect all the 'new' features other new cars have and an older design, in terms of parts used. There's something functional and desirable about a basic Dacia.

InitialDave

11,877 posts

119 months

Saturday 12th November 2016
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What's the depreciation like on them? Might a more expensive car cost less overall, particularly if there is an inviting finance offer available?

smifffymoto

4,545 posts

205 months

Saturday 12th November 2016
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TBH a Dacia is just a cheaper Renault so you can't really go wrong.

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Original Poster:

924 posts

106 months

Saturday 12th November 2016
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Thanks all - that's good to hear.

I'm not sure about the depreciation side of things - is there a recommended website for that sort of info?

I'd probably like the Duster but I don't think the budget will stretch to that, so it's either a Sandero or a Logan estate.

I like the idea of the estate. I was thinking that might hold its value better than the Sandero but I have no real reason for that... versatility maybe, with estates appealing to a broader range of drivers?


TwigtheWonderkid

43,317 posts

150 months

Saturday 12th November 2016
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InitialDave said:
What's the depreciation like on them?
Who cares at that price. I remember a few years back someone I know bought a brand new Suzuki for £4995, and Alto I think or something tiny. Another friend was going on about how much it would depreciate over 3 years, 70% or something. So it would lose £3500 over 3 yrs. It's hardly head in the oven stuff.

valiant

10,171 posts

160 months

Saturday 12th November 2016
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Something appealing about a no nonsense car like a Dacia. Feel they work best being as basic as possible.

Don't fixate on the depreciation too much, especially if you're going to keep it for some time and remember, if it loses 50-60% over three years it still only £4500 to £5000. Compared to how much a boggo 3 series loses in cash terms over the same period, you'll come out ok. I've just bought a 2 year old V60 and it's lost nearly £20k on list price since new, nearly a grand a month eek

Also, it seems Dacia do not discount new cars so the price listed is the price you'll pay.

Alucidnation

16,810 posts

170 months

Saturday 12th November 2016
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Get an extended test drive over a weekend maybe.

They are cheap for a reason, but as long as you go in with your eyes open then why not?

Truckosaurus

11,228 posts

284 months

Saturday 12th November 2016
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Or buy a 2yr old one. Best of both worlds, a better spec for your money (4x4? diesell? aircon?) after a bit of depreciation but still plenty of life left.

SWoll

18,330 posts

258 months

Saturday 12th November 2016
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InitialDave said:
What's the depreciation like on them? Might a more expensive car cost less overall, particularly if there is an inviting finance offer available?
Based on what I've just seen on Autotrader a £9K new Sandero Stepway MPV is still worth £5K+ at 3 years/30K miles. That's 3 years of very cheap, hassle free motoring in a brand new car.

loskie

5,193 posts

120 months

Saturday 12th November 2016
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valiant said:
Something appealing about a no nonsense car like a Dacia. Feel they work best being as basic as possible.

Don't fixate on the depreciation too much, especially if you're going to keep it for some time and remember, if it loses 50-60% over three years it still only £4500 to £5000. Compared to how much a boggo 3 series loses in cash terms over the same period, you'll come out ok. I've just bought a 2 year old V60 and it's lost nearly £20k on list price since new, nearly a grand a month eek

Also, it seems Dacia do not discount new cars so the price listed is the price you'll pay.
they will discount via carwow i got about £600 knocked off

battered

4,088 posts

147 months

Saturday 12th November 2016
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If they are holding 5k at 3 yrs and 9k new then depreciation is better than average. I would imagine that it's propped up by large numbers of people looking at a 3 yr old/30k and thinking "that's a lot of car for £5k".

If you are really bothered about depreciation then buy a cheaper and older car. My Mondeo shed came in at £600 or so and I've had it 2 years, Repairs/servicing about £300 a year, over 26k miles or so. It doesn't get much cheaper, but then it's a shed and it could cash in its chips anytime.

Risk-free motoring at under £1500 a year is not to be sniffed at. Add to that the fact that if you keep it another 3 years then £5k turns into £2.5k and it's £800 a year for years 4-6. It's now comparable with my shed, which with the best will in the world is likely to be £500 a year or so, given half of that or more in repairs and the fact that it's not going to last for ever.

Butter Face

30,278 posts

160 months

Saturday 12th November 2016
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loskie said:
valiant said:
Something appealing about a no nonsense car like a Dacia. Feel they work best being as basic as possible.

Don't fixate on the depreciation too much, especially if you're going to keep it for some time and remember, if it loses 50-60% over three years it still only £4500 to £5000. Compared to how much a boggo 3 series loses in cash terms over the same period, you'll come out ok. I've just bought a 2 year old V60 and it's lost nearly £20k on list price since new, nearly a grand a month eek

Also, it seems Dacia do not discount new cars so the price listed is the price you'll pay.
they will discount via carwow i got about £600 knocked off
Or take the finance option and get £500/£750 deposit contribution and a FOC 5 year warranty and settle later.

Minimum amount to finance is £3500 over 2 years, at 7.9% APR you pay a massive £268 in interest if you ran the whole term.

AdamIndy

1,661 posts

104 months

Saturday 12th November 2016
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We have a 64 plate duster at work at the minute, we have to sell it as part of a deceased estate. I had a go in it and was pleasantly surprised! I had never driven one before but the basic nature of the thing is actually quite appealing.

Depending where you are in the country you are more than welcome to come and have a nose at it.

That's not a sales pitch by the way.

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Original Poster:

924 posts

106 months

Sunday 13th November 2016
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Thanks for all the positive input.

Never having bought a new car before, the process is a bit daunting. There seems to be so many things to consider.

I'd bever realised that pre-reg cars had such a big discount but equally, I'm not sure I understand why?

Has the car really lost that amount of value by having done a few hundred miles. They seem like really good deals.

Are ex-demos good or bad?

AdamIndy said:
We have a 64 plate duster at work at the minute, we have to sell it as part of a deceased estate. I had a go in it and was pleasantly surprised! I had never driven one before but the basic nature of the thing is actually quite appealing.

Depending where you are in the country you are more than welcome to come and have a nose at it.

That's not a sales pitch by the way.
Thanks for the offer - I'm over Canterbury way - unfortunately probably a bit far away for me.

battered

4,088 posts

147 months

Sunday 13th November 2016
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Pre reg is cheaper because it's no longer new in people's eyes. I think it also adds an owner so you are selling a 2 owner car in 3 years' time. Yes, cars really *do* depreciate that much as soon as you drive them out of the door.

As for ex-demo, sure, why not? They will have done a couple of hundred miles with a salesman and a buyer in them, and no doubt the salesman will have used the demonstrator to go away at the weekends etc. It's hardly likely to have been abused.

footnote

Original Poster:

924 posts

106 months

Sunday 13th November 2016
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Thanks again - the 'delivery mileage only' or 'pre-regs' looking very appealing.

I'm a bit wary of getting caught out with these though - are there any obvious catches?

Would it be registered to the dealership usually? And still have the usual warranty and stuff?

I suppose you don't get to choose the colour and so on, which would be a downside for some buyers

Butter Face

30,278 posts

160 months

Sunday 13th November 2016
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No catches, registered to dealer first, you would be the second owner.

All the same warranty/breakdown as a new car.

DSLiverpool

14,725 posts

202 months

Sunday 13th November 2016
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Butter Face said:
Or take the finance option and get £500/£750 deposit contribution and a FOC 5 year warranty and settle later.

Minimum amount to finance is £3500 over 2 years, at 7.9% APR you pay a massive £268 in interest if you ran the whole term.
Any idea when the autos arrive ?

Butter Face

30,278 posts

160 months

Sunday 13th November 2016
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DSLiverpool said:
Butter Face said:
Or take the finance option and get £500/£750 deposit contribution and a FOC 5 year warranty and settle later.

Minimum amount to finance is £3500 over 2 years, at 7.9% APR you pay a massive £268 in interest if you ran the whole term.
Any idea when the autos arrive ?
Demos will be at dealers end of Dec. Deliveries will likely be Feb/March for customer cars (IMO)