New Dacia or something else?

[DSLiverpool]

Butter Face said:

Demos will be at dealers end of Dec. Deliveries will likely be Feb/March for customer cars (IMO)

Perfect for when the leaf goes back - def fancy this for the Mrs

[Butter Face]

DSLiverpool said:

Butter Face said:

Demos will be at dealers end of Dec. Deliveries will likely be Feb/March for customer cars (IMO)

Perfect for when the leaf goes back - def fancy this for the Mrs

You know it's Duster only getting the Auto?

You have to start at Laureate spec so £14895+ for an Auto. Deposit contribution and 5 year warranty offer continuing which is great news!

[DSLiverpool]

Butter Face said:

You know it's Duster only getting the Auto?

You have to start at Laureate spec so £14895+ for an Auto. Deposit contribution and 5 year warranty offer continuing which is great news!

Yep we need nav so that's ok, will do a 3 year pcp I think - maybe 5

[daemon]

battered said:

Pre reg is cheaper because it's no longer new in people's eyes.

No. The dealer has most likely bought a load of a particular car either at a discounted price (and is paying for them on the spot rather than, say, on a 6 month sell or return, OR they've bought a load and registered them themselves to meet a particular sales target, OR they're a pre facelift car being sold off cheaper.

[daemon]

battered said:

As for ex-demo, sure, why not? They will have done a couple of hundred miles with a salesman and a buyer in them, and no doubt the salesman will have used the demonstrator to go away at the weekends etc. It's hardly likely to have been abused.

Worth making sure you're not missing out on new car incentives and new car discounts by buying an ex demo. Not so significant on a Dacio but moreso on most other brands where new car discounts are significant and where there are perhaps manufacturer incentives such as "free" spec upgrades or significant finance contributions.

Also, a lot of "demo" cars arent - they've been loaners or have been registered for a reason - perhaps an obselete engine for example.

Also, they usually end up being sold off on a previous plate which will impact resale. Its more significant over a new year - that 6 month old demo being sold in May is actually registered Dec the previous year so will be worth significantly less come resale time.

[daemon]

footnote said:

Thanks again - the 'delivery mileage only' or 'pre-regs' looking very appealing.

I'm a bit wary of getting caught out with these though - are there any obvious catches?

Would it be registered to the dealership usually? And still have the usual warranty and stuff?

I suppose you don't get to choose the colour and so on, which would be a downside for some buyers

There are various catches -

They are often on a previous plate which will impact resale value
They will have a shorter warranty
You (usually) wont get any of the new car incentive offers - manufacturer contributions, etc.
They often can be obselete spec cars
(Not such an issue with Dacia but) They often arent that cheap when you factor in all of the above and the (usually signficant) new car discounts avail on most brands
"Demo" cars conjure up a mental image of steady test drives with the salesman sitting beside a prospective customer. In reality the car was most likely a loaner or ex dealer hire car driven by x100 different people who didnt give a shyte about it.

[daemon]

Butter Face said:

No catches, registered to dealer first, you would be the second owner.

All the same warranty/breakdown as a new car.

A pre-reg car could have been sitting around for several months, therefore will have less warranty and less breakdown cover.

[Slushbox]

I have a 2016 Dacia Logan MCV (the estate). Punchy 1.5 DCi engine. It's a very nice car in Lauréate spec, with the nav-thing. 70 mpg and no VED, tints, alloys, cruise, air-con, hands-free, regenerative braking, £150 a year servicing.

Less depreciation than a Skoda Fabia estate say the rags.

Add £100 'comfort pack' for electric rear windows and leather steering wheel.

As to deals there are a lot of new pre-reg around, and new models in 2017, but some are buying the car on finance to get free servicing, £500-£700 'dealer contribution' and so on. Then they cancel the finance after the first payment, keeping the discounts.

[InitialDave]

TwigtheWonderkid said:

Who cares at that price.

Anyone buying a new car they're not intending to keep forever should at least consider the depreciation, otherwise how do you estimate your total ownership cost for comparison purposes? However:

SWoll said:

Based on what I've just seen on Autotrader a £9K new Sandero Stepway MPV is still worth £5K+ at 3 years/30K miles. That's 3 years of very cheap, hassle free motoring in a brand new car.

That sounds really good, so it's not a situation where a slightly more expensive "branded" car is a better deal overall.

[Slushbox]

"I like the idea of the estate. I was thinking that might hold its value better than the Sandero but I have no real reason for that... versatility maybe, with estates appealing to a broader range of drivers?"

The Sandero Stepways are more popular than the Logan Estate in the UK, it's a Sandero with the suspension jacked up 2", roof rails, and faux SUV plastics. They consequently have more body roll than the Sandero or Logan which leads to a few moans on the Dacia forum from, er, spirited drivers.

I don't understand the SUV craze, people don't like parking estates or something?

Logan has plenty of room for dogs/wheelchairs/shopping and mountain bikes. Rear seats fold flat for transporting coffins. Nothing has fallen off or broken, yet. Lauréate versions get driver seat height adjustment if that is important.

What is coming over in the Dacia forum is that people are buying Sandero petrols as cheap commuters. They buy a TCe90 turbo-petrol Ambience for £7600, and get £4.5K - £5K back at the end of three years.

Logan is loved by policemen, everywhere:

Edited by Slushbox on Monday 14th November 08:08

[Butter Face]

The Ambiance Tce is a great value car, as of now (as all current models are pretty much gone) if you order one you get the new spec which also has aircon (you previously had to buy a laureate for aircon) which means the ambiance is even better value. Price has gone up by about £200 but that's great value for the aircon alone!

[Slushbox]

^^^ Good news indeed!

[DSLiverpool]

Butter Face said:

The Ambiance Tce is a great value car, as of now (as all current models are pretty much gone) if you order one you get the new spec which also has aircon (you previously had to buy a laureate for aircon) which means the ambiance is even better value. Price has gone up by about £200 but that's great value for the aircon alone!

Definately tempted by this, will try the auto when out

[Butter Face]

DSLiverpool said:

Butter Face said:

The Ambiance Tce is a great value car, as of now (as all current models are pretty much gone) if you order one you get the new spec which also has aircon (you previously had to buy a laureate for aircon) which means the ambiance is even better value. Price has gone up by about £200 but that's great value for the aircon alone!

Definately tempted by this, will try the auto when out

Sorry, just to be clear, Duster not included

Logan, Sandero and Stepway all currently being favelifted with new spec. Duster remains as is!

[sidaorb]

Slushbox said:

The Sandero Stepways are more popular than the Logan Estate in the UK, it's a Sandero with the suspension jacked up 2", roof rails, and faux SUV plastics. They consequently have more body roll than the Sandero or Logan which leads to a few moans on the Dacia forum from, er, spirited drivers.

I actually quite like the body roll on the Stepway, once your used to it it corners similar to an old 2CV

Don't want to sound like a fanboy but they are seriously under-rated cars, my Stepway is just over 2 1/2 years old and has covered 52k + miles now. Had a bike rack with two bikes and all the gear earlier this year for a trip to France and have towed my 19ft boat with it

[Slushbox]

sidaorb said:

I actually quite like the body roll on the Stepway, once your used to it it corners similar to an old 2CV

Don't want to sound like a fanboy but they are seriously under-rated cars, my Stepway is just over 2 1/2 years old and has covered 52k + miles now. Had a bike rack with two bikes and all the gear earlier this year for a trip to France and have towed my 19ft boat with it

I agree. But some people just moan all the time. :-)

I went with the Logan as it's easier to get bikes on the roof. Then realised I could get them in the back. Duh.

Very solid cars, I think. Love mine. Discovered the rev limiter yesterday. What fun!