cars with no reserve reading -- any others with this modus

cars with no reserve reading -- any others with this modus

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Register1

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2,140 posts

94 months

Sunday 29th January 2017
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Hi all,

I regularly look on carswithnoreservereading to see what they have been buying from BCA, and posted onto Ebay.

For those that don't know, cars with no reserve reading (several name changes) buy most of their cars from Blackbush BCA.

They do a clean up, remove any engine management lights, tidy up some of the chips, and put them on Ebay.

Does any one know of any other Ebay seller, who runs a similar sort of operation?

Thanks

R1

andymc

7,353 posts

207 months

Sunday 29th January 2017
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what are they called now?

anonymous-user

54 months

Sunday 29th January 2017
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andymc said:
what are they called now?
They're called Sterling Cars now.

All the cars are at no reserve, But if they are too low, they push the price up with other accounts.

TheTwitcher

161 posts

88 months

Sunday 29th January 2017
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When you say

Register1 said:
remove any engine management lights
Do you mean:

1. Correct any issues with the engine,

2. Turn off the lights with a code reader and hope they don't reappear, or

3. Remove the bulbs from behind the dash?

Just curious.

Register1

Original Poster:

2,140 posts

94 months

Sunday 29th January 2017
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TheTwitcher said:
When you say

Register1 said:
remove any engine management lights
Do you mean:

1. Correct any issues with the engine,

2. Turn off the lights with a code reader and hope they don't reappear, or

3. Remove the bulbs from behind the dash?

Just curious.
I have seen them with a code reader, reset Gubbins.
So I would think it is just option 2 on your list

AlVal

1,883 posts

264 months

Sunday 29th January 2017
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Learn2MergeInTurn said:
andymc said:
what are they called now?
They're called Sterling Cars now.

All the cars are at no reserve, But if they are too low, they push the price up with other accounts.
What makes you suspect shill bidding? Saw a tempting fully loaded 7 series listed by them recently

melhookv12

958 posts

174 months

Sunday 29th January 2017
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I've bid on the same car 3 times. Each time I lost the auction the car comes back on. I messaged them asking why. They said the winner didn't show up.
I bet he did, I bet he either typed the reply or was sat right nexterm to the replier.

AlexRS2782

8,046 posts

213 months

Sunday 29th January 2017
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AlVal said:
Learn2MergeInTurn said:
andymc said:
what are they called now?
They're called Sterling Cars now.

All the cars are at no reserve, But if they are too low, they push the price up with other accounts.
What makes you suspect shill bidding? Saw a tempting fully loaded 7 series listed by them recently
There was a long running thread on here from a few years ago that detailed that's exactly what they used to do.

The proof's in the high volume of newly registered accounts and low feedback accounts bidding exclusively on their cars. When you clicked on those accounts bid / win history nearly all of them had 100% activity purely with the seller, many of which were "winning" bids where feedback was left almost immediately after auction end saying how great the car was, etc.

However if you checked their items for same you could see the car itself hadn't sold and was already listed again usually within an hour of the feedback being left.

Edited by AlexRS2782 on Monday 30th January 00:01

Sump

5,484 posts

167 months

Sunday 29th January 2017
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They shill bid.

PoleDriver

28,637 posts

194 months

Sunday 29th January 2017
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I've bought 3 cars from them. Yes, they do shill bid to get the ball rolling but all the cars I've bought were at a lower than anywhere else price.
I've bid on other cars which I've won too. Didn't like them when I turned up and there was no problem from them, they just relisted them!.
Two of the cars I bought had small problems which weren't described in their ad, they offered a discount which I accepted.
The only thing I will say is... make sure you know what you're doing or take someone with you who does!

sebhaque

6,404 posts

181 months

Sunday 29th January 2017
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I bid on and won an MG TF 130 from them. It's MOT was due to to expire in a few days, so I gave them a call and asked them to run it through it's MOT for me (the advert said it was a good runner and should pass its MOT no problem etc) and I'd pay the MOT cost as long as it passed. It failed on some major items, and the chap on the other end of the phone didn't even bother asking if I wanted it, but told me if I'd entertain them they had a 1.6 TF coming in if I wanted first dibs on it.

Went to look at the car and, while a little rough around the edges, it seemed decent enough and had 10 months' MOT on it. I haggled them down to £750 (which is a very reasonable price for a 2004 TF from a dealer) and drove it away. Of course, it wasn't a perfect car and after nearly a year of motoring the alternator had had enough, so the car went to the scrappy and I bought an MX-5.

If you're looking for cheap, well-maintained cars, Sterling probably isn't the place to go. If you're looking for something cheap that you can nurse back to health then it's quite a good place to pick up a bargain. I'd happily buy an MX-5 from Sterling, I wouldn't buy a Range Rover from them though!

Register1

Original Poster:

2,140 posts

94 months

Monday 30th January 2017
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melhookv12 said:
I've bid on the same car 3 times. Each time I lost the auction the car comes back on. I messaged them asking why. They said the winner didn't show up.
I bet he did, I bet he either typed the reply or was sat right nexterm to the replier.
This happens a lot on their cats.
I think all the on-site car cleaners have eBay accounts, ant it is part of their job, to bid up the cars when the boss tells them.

R1

Edited by Register1 on Sunday 1st March 13:53

R8Steve

4,150 posts

175 months

Monday 30th January 2017
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sebhaque said:
Of course, it wasn't a perfect car and after nearly a year of motoring the alternator had had enough, so the car went to the scrappy and I bought an MX-5.
You scrapped a car because it needed an alternator?

wiliferus

4,060 posts

198 months

Monday 30th January 2017
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To be fair, one of their major ad points is that if you win the auctions there's no commitment to buy. You go and have a look, if you're not happy you walk away! The one interaction I had was exactly that. It was a shed of a Passat tdi but I needed a quick and dirty purchase to keep me moving. I won the auction for much below retail. When I went to complete the sale man in portacabin chucked the keys at me and said 'No hurry' On the test drive it was quite apparent the suspension was goosed and the turbo wasn't spooling up.
Back at the dealer and the paperwork revealed it had 2 months MoT not the 12 it was advertised with. He pretty much offered a 50% discount, but when I politely declined he shook my hand and we parted company.

You can't knock the ethic really. Just go in with eyes open.

sebhaque

6,404 posts

181 months

Monday 30th January 2017
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R8Steve said:
You scrapped a car because it needed an alternator?
Yes. There were a couple of other little issues that would want fixing sooner or later too, and I didn't see any point in getting a shed fixed. Like most sheds, it did its job for a while and then went in the bin once a bill came my way.

Register1

Original Poster:

2,140 posts

94 months

Sunday 1st March 2020
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anonymous said:
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Yes, but they shill bid up with new eBay accounts every week.
As is the number of zero feedback bidders

anonymous-user

54 months

Sunday 1st March 2020
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Register1 said:
anonymous said:
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Yes, but they shill bid up with new eBay accounts every week.
As is the number of zero feedback bidders
3 years ago they did hehe

Ultra Sound Guy

28,637 posts

194 months

Sunday 1st March 2020
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I bought my current car, A Mercedes R320 from them 3 years ago at £3K lower than any other I could find.
Bodywork had a few scratches but it was just a work hack!
3 years and 35,000 miles on it’s cost me £800 to keep it on the road, can’t complain about that!
The only thing I can say is “go in with your eyes open”!

MrGTI6

3,160 posts

130 months

Sunday 1st March 2020
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About a year ago, a trader mate of mine took an 08-plate Saab 9-5 1.9 diesel estate as a part ex and sent it to BCA under their Partner Finance scheme. It had been sat for a long time after the previous owner had his licence revoked due to his health. By the time he got his licence back, he could only drive an auto, so he part exchanged it for a V70 that my mate had up for sale.

The car was very low mileage (30-something thousand) and had been owned by the elderly gent since it was a couple of years old. The CAP Clean valuation was just shy of £3,000. However...

- The nearside sill was shaped like a banana.
- It hadn't been serviced in a few years.
- It only fired up with a generous squirt of easy-start.
- It smoked like a trooper.
- The DMF needed replacing.
- It was in limp mode.
- It had an intermittent power steering issue.
- Two of the tyres weren't holding air.
- The MOT had expired a few months prior.
- The inside of the car was very damp/mouldy.

A couple of days before the car was due to go under the hammer, he was very surprised to spot it on eBay. Using BCA's photos, the car had been listed by the "seller" even though it was still at BCA at this stage.

We both sent the "seller" messages posing as very keen potential buyers who desperately wanted the car and bid it up to £2,500 (it owed my mate £300). When we asked if we could see the car, we were told it was being prepared and would be available to view soon.

My mate happened to be attending the (BCA) auction on the day the Saab went through and asked me to bid on the car online up to £1,600. It started at £500 and went up at first in fifties, and then in twenty-fives. It was just me and another net bidder referred to by the auctioneer as "Reading". As instructed, I stopped at £1,600. The car sold for £1,625 (before fees) to the mysterious net bidder. I was told that everyone in the smoke-filled hall seemed slightly bemused, even the auctioneer! My mate kindly split the profit with me 50/50.

A few days later I received a message informing me that the car was ready to view. I ignored the message but kept the car in my watch bin. The description was altered to list some (but not all) of the issues and BCA's photos were replaced by the seller's own. From their photos, I could see that the towing eye - which had previously been submerged in water in the spare wheel well - was now attached to the front of the car. It was relisted two or three times and eventually sold for about £600!


Edited by MrGTI6 on Sunday 1st March 20:07

Sunnrick

1 posts

46 months

Friday 12th June 2020
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I look on ebay auction cars daily for the past year. I am yet to still come across a car from themselves at a decent price where i can make profit with minimal risk.
I have been watching an m140i that has been put on for the 5th time now and each time has sold over £16k.
In the morning the bid shower £9200, around 2 hours later was already on £14600.
Other m140i’s have been on ebay auction and finshed at £10k.
Other cars that they have even listed with issues finish on at a price that you can get good condition ones
I am 99% sure they has several ebay accounts and bid on cars beforehand so they get the required price they want hence they always finish high and weirdly the winner doesnt buy and the car is back on ebay .....
Also reading their feedbacks shows a similarity of themselves on other accounts.