Best Lease Car Deals Available? (Vol 4)

Best Lease Car Deals Available? (Vol 4)

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Wdk1866

210 posts

119 months

Sunday 23rd April 2017
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ollie05 said:
12298 over 2 years, so 512.41 amortized?

What's the list price for that spec car?
47750

Helicopter123

8,831 posts

156 months

Sunday 23rd April 2017
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Wdk1866 said:
Test drove the S4 Avant today, I thought it was a really impressed...think I might go for the fleet price lease offer on the car, with a few extras virtual cockpit, tinted windows and 19" wheels
RULE 1 when leasing : DO NOT even look at the options list! There is no man maths, you will destroy the value of the deal.

RULE 2 : see rule 1.

ollie05

697 posts

220 months

Sunday 23rd April 2017
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Just over 25% then...

nduli

10 posts

170 months

Sunday 23rd April 2017
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fewie said:
Who are the big players for the golf R deals when they drop? Assuming the deals are under written VWFS who's best to lease through?

Get the feeling I'll need to be quick for an R hatch so who's best for a 1st timer like myself to deal with
Anyone any idea whether any of the next deals will include the estate or do we expect the hatch? I know I missed the last deal by dithering. frown

Wdk1866

210 posts

119 months

Sunday 23rd April 2017
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Helicopter123 said:
Wdk1866 said:
Test drove the S4 Avant today, I thought it was a really impressed...think I might go for the fleet price lease offer on the car, with a few extras virtual cockpit, tinted windows and 19" wheels
RULE 1 when leasing : DO NOT even look at the options list! There is no man maths, you will destroy the value of the deal.

RULE 2 : see rule 1.
Ha I know the rules but for me the car needs the extras...man logic!

Wdk1866

210 posts

119 months

Sunday 23rd April 2017
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ollie05 said:
Just over 25% then...
Yeh from memory 25.7 without the extras it is sub 25%

PenelopaPitstop

2,164 posts

133 months

Sunday 23rd April 2017
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Don't forget that you can get S4 with £6,362 discount, so real price is £38,438 or around £40K. (Our Discount Price includes the £2,000 Finance Deposit Contribution from AUDI UK when taking AUDI finance. If buying cash please add £2,000 back onto the Discount Price above. )

Then 12000/38438 = 31% of price.

TomScrut

2,546 posts

88 months

Sunday 23rd April 2017
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ollie05 said:
Wdk1866 said:
Test drove the S4 Avant today, I thought it was a really impressed...think I might go for the fleet price lease offer on the car, with a few extras virtual cockpit, tinted windows and 19" wheels
I fancy the same, but instead of tints, the folding mirrors. How a car like this doesn't have them as standard is criminal!

Have you had a quote include those extras yet?
If I was speccing one VC and 19s are a must IMO. I don't miss tints or folding mirrors but I can appreciate why others would.

Helicopter123

8,831 posts

156 months

Sunday 23rd April 2017
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TomScrut said:
ollie05 said:
Wdk1866 said:
If I was buying one VC and 19s are a must IMO. I don't miss tints or folding mirrors but I can appreciate why others would.
Fixed that for you





Blown2CV

28,808 posts

203 months

Sunday 23rd April 2017
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nduli said:
Long time lurker etc etc
Think I made a massive mistake in not jumping /triggering / punching fruit on the golf r or skoda vrs deals as I think through the potential cost of my next service....

Slightly off topic but related to choosing a new car but does anyone know if the BMW 3 series touring, a4 avant and octavia or superb estate have offset pedals?

I have an a5 sport back tiptronic and they are offset and I am convinced it's what's knackered my back so without having to visit every dealer and see one I'd like to get an idea. I'm in the market for a reasonably quick petrol estate or a 6pot oil burner estate so any other suggestions welcome.
not the most off-topic friendly thread this TBH, try mfr forums.

talksthetorque

10,815 posts

135 months

Sunday 23rd April 2017
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Helicopter123 said:
Wdk1866 said:
Test drove the S4 Avant today, I thought it was a really impressed...think I might go for the fleet price lease offer on the car, with a few extras virtual cockpit, tinted windows and 19" wheels
RULE 1 when leasing : DO NOT even look at the options list! There is no man maths, you will destroy the value of the deal.

RULE 2 : see rule 1.
Now there could be some justification for payng for options on the S4.
The standard wheels are 18s, but are diamond cut, and there's a disclaimer about if they corrode due to road salt, tough st.
There are a set of 19s which are £225 ( i think) more which are not diamond cut.
If you live somewhere where they put lots of salt down ( as you might if you are looking at a 4wd car) then this could save you money at the end.

I don't live next to Loch Salty so am sticking with the standard 18s.


PS - where was the S4 you test drove? - none of my local dealers have one to even sit in.


But I am speccing the £100 flat bottomed steering wheel (as I am a lanky streak of piss) and the virtual cockpit (out of complete nonsense and novelty value)

Edited by talksthetorque on Sunday 23 April 10:42

TomScrut

2,546 posts

88 months

Sunday 23rd April 2017
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Helicopter123 said:
Fixed that for you
No, you didn't. Spending around £500 extra on a £11000 lease is not exactly making the lease no longer feasible. I spent £350 on options on the S5 and it's making about £13 a month difference, well worth it for how useful the VC is. No way would I spend thousands on options on a lease but a few hundred on what is not an inexpensive (even if OK value) lease is not significant.

TomScrut

2,546 posts

88 months

Sunday 23rd April 2017
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PenelopaPitstop said:
Don't forget that you can get S4 with £6,362 discount, so real price is £38,438 or around £40K. (Our Discount Price includes the £2,000 Finance Deposit Contribution from AUDI UK when taking AUDI finance. If buying cash please add £2,000 back onto the Discount Price above. )

Then 12000/38438 = 31% of price.
I do think that it could be cheaper to lease than buy though. When I ordered the S5 I didn't give a damn about the percentage thing (as for the reason you state above its not a good comparison system) but I worked out effectively how much I would have to get for the car after buying to make it cheaper than the lease, and I felt it wasn't worth the risk or hassle. The S4 and S5 deals are just shy of £500 a month, I had a B8 S4 that depreciated £500 a month over 3 years, let alone two and I got £4k off it when I bought it new effectively paying cash as I didn't use the Audi finance (I only borrowed the money a few months) so similar discount to what you are talking on a B9.

PenelopaPitstop

2,164 posts

133 months

Sunday 23rd April 2017
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It's best to look at depreciations cost vs leasing cost. If leasing is lower than depreciation, it's a good deal. Question is how to establish depreciation value. I use discounted price at purchase point and trade in price at the other end. It's worth considering the hassle of selling or trading it in.

% is popular on the forum but everyone has to decide for themselves.

TomScrut

2,546 posts

88 months

Sunday 23rd April 2017
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PenelopaPitstop said:
It's best to look at depreciations cost vs leasing cost. If leasing is lower than depreciation, it's a good deal. Question is how to establish depreciation value. I use discounted price at purchase point and trade in price at the other end.

% is popular on the forum but everyone has to decide for themselves.
Yes I worked out that if I got it at the discounted price, using the Audi finance calculator (so basically put the discount minus contribution as a deposit, plus a nominal amount similar to the initial payment on the lease). The I compared the FV figure to the purchase price minus lease cost and worked out that it was costing around £3k IIRC more to buy than lease over the two years which meant I would need that amount of equity in the car vs the FV figure and getting around £34k for it at two years old and 20k miles I think. All from memory. But I personally thought I would struggle to get that in all honesty especially with the market being saturated with ex lease cars.

YT

11 posts

105 months

Sunday 23rd April 2017
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Any BMW 5 Series deals knocking about. They tend to show up after september. My 320d is going back in october!

Wdk1866

210 posts

119 months

Sunday 23rd April 2017
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talksthetorque said:
Helicopter123 said:
Wdk1866 said:
Test drove the S4 Avant today, I thought it was a really impressed...think I might go for the fleet price lease offer on the car, with a few extras virtual cockpit, tinted windows and 19" wheels
RULE 1 when leasing : DO NOT even look at the options list! There is no man maths, you will destroy the value of the deal.

RULE 2 : see rule 1.
Now there could be some justification for payng for options on the S4.
The standard wheels are 18s, but are diamond cut, and there's a disclaimer about if they corrode due to road salt, tough st.
There are a set of 19s which are £225 ( i think) more which are not diamond cut.
If you live somewhere where they put lots of salt down ( as you might if you are looking at a 4wd car) then this could save you money at the end.

I don't live next to Loch Salty so am sticking with the standard 18s.


PS - where was the S4 you test drove? - none of my local dealers have one to even sit in.


But I am speccing the £100 flat bottomed steering wheel (as I am a lanky streak of piss) and the virtual cockpit (out of complete nonsense and novelty value)

Edited by talksthetorque on Sunday 23 April 10:42
I got a test drive at Audi West London. I had an appointment at Reading but they cancelled when they couldn't get close to the quotes I have had from Fleetprice (lesson learnt for me - don't show the dealership your quote until after the test drive).
I was further north last week and could have done a test drive in Doncaster. Hope that helps


Edited by Wdk1866 on Sunday 23 April 15:36

br1anuk

21 posts

175 months

Sunday 23rd April 2017
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I know this is the Golf R and Audi S5 lease thread but has anyone seen any good basic transport deals lately. Ive had a good look back through the thread and can't see any. I'm looking for a 3 plus 23 for around £100 per month.
Just a basic car for my daughter.

Any ideas?

Brian.

FlabbyMidgets

477 posts

87 months

Sunday 23rd April 2017
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br1anuk said:
I know this is the Golf R and Audi S5 lease thread but has anyone seen any good basic transport deals lately. Ive had a good look back through the thread and can't see any. I'm looking for a 3 plus 23 for around £100 per month.
Just a basic car for my daughter.

Any ideas?

Brian.
This any use?
https://www.contracthireandleasing.com/independent...

RSTurboPaul

10,362 posts

258 months

Sunday 23rd April 2017
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br1anuk said:
I know this is the Golf R and Audi S5 lease thread but has anyone seen any good basic transport deals lately. Ive had a good look back through the thread and can't see any. I'm looking for a 3 plus 23 for around £100 per month.
Just a basic car for my daughter.

Any ideas?

Brian.
www.contracthireandleasing.com and filter by price.

You'll be looking at a 108 sort of thing, maybe a Micra or a Nissan Quashqai Juke (spelling). Fiat 500 might just be in budget.

Edited by RSTurboPaul on Monday 24th April 11:11

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