4x4: five doors, low range, £1500. What?

4x4: five doors, low range, £1500. What?

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anonymous-user

54 months

Tuesday 25th April 2017
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A rust-free Terrano will do all you want, but a bit like the apocryphal recipe for Jugged Haresmile

Jimmy Recard

17,540 posts

179 months

Tuesday 25th April 2017
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https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/permalink/415...

This looks a bit ropey, but think of it as £500 for 11 months of mot

spookly

4,019 posts

95 months

Tuesday 25th April 2017
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downstairs said:
Thanks for all the ideas so far!

Just for clarification: by far most of the use for this car will be domestic duties, filling up with tent and sundries, with family bikes on the roof or on a tow bar carrier, and the opportunity to borrow my f-i-l's caravan. As well as rubbish to the tip and diy duties etc.

All of which could be achieved with a Honda crv or an XTrail or something.

But.

With my little bit of off road history, there's no way I'm going to have a 4x4 sitting on the drive that won't give me the chance to do some off road playing with my son from time to time. I'm liking a Jeep as the answer to my question, but don't want to overlook something i should consider, just because my own thoughts wander straight to Jeeps.

I don't mind what the car looks like really either. When i say Discoveries look ropey at my budget, i mean they look knackered. I don't mind if i but something shabby, but it does need to be something the family can go in a couple of times a year to safely drive a few hundred miles.
The Jeep GC, and I think Cherokee too, which has the 2.7 diesel lump.... is a merc engine & gearbox. They are very reliable. OK on fuel. The only thing I've had to spend on mine is on odd bits of suspension parts, which are available fairly cheap.
The only engine thing to watch out for is the injector seals. If they go, then on the GC, the two rearmost injectors are obscured by the bulkhead and are a pig to get to.

popeyewhite

19,869 posts

120 months

Tuesday 25th April 2017
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Nanook said:
I've had these on my last 3 4x4s, a Kia Sorento, a Shogun Sport, and a LWB Shogun, and I personally think they're great in terms of off road ability, on road manners, and price.
Wish I'd discovered them earlier, stuck to Grabbers for years.

lemmingjames

7,456 posts

204 months

Tuesday 25th April 2017
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A forester has the same height clearance as a Freelander if that helps?

Also, theres lots of Americans and Russian'esq types that use the Forester for greenlaning. Sure they wont tackle the mud bank in the image on p1 (the owners would probably just gun it and jump it tbh

tr7v8

7,192 posts

228 months

Tuesday 25th April 2017
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cbmotorsport said:
You've already mentioned the best option OP - Jeep Cherokee. Affordable, capable, much more reliable than people think.

Worth thinking about tyres, you want to do pay and play days, but also want to do hundreds of miles with the family. Even a set of All Terrains will buzz and drone a bit on the road, and a tyre capable of half decent mud will drive you nuts on the road for hundreds of miles. Second set of wheels will be required.
Not in my experience. I ran General ATs for most of the 60K I did on the GC. No noisier than the no name mix of road orientated it was on & more than capable in the off road bits I did with it.

tr7v8

7,192 posts

228 months

Tuesday 25th April 2017
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downstairs said:
tr7v8 said:
Just sold a very well maintained Jeep Grand Cherokee 2000 WJ 4L for under a grand. Ideal tow car. And with low range & proper 4WD.
Most importantly over the other options being mentioned here it had ZERO rust on it. LR & a lot of the japs suffer horrific rusting.
According to the spreadsheet I keep including fuel it has cost 43pence per mile over 60K plus.
I think this is exactly the sort of thing i want.
Good WJ group on FaceBook, loads of knowledge & cars for sale. That is where mine was sold a couple of weeks ago.

Jimmy Recard

17,540 posts

179 months

Tuesday 25th April 2017
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tr7v8 said:
Good WJ group on FaceBook, loads of knowledge & cars for sale. That is where mine was sold a couple of weeks ago.
Jeep WJ UK?

seadragon

1,137 posts

215 months

Tuesday 25th April 2017
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Ssangyong Musso. Some Merc parts in it. Get a good example and you will get a great 4x4 with loads of space and if you fit an inline filter you can run it on veggie oil like I did.

tr7v8

7,192 posts

228 months

Tuesday 25th April 2017
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Jimmy Recard said:
tr7v8 said:
Good WJ group on FaceBook, loads of knowledge & cars for sale. That is where mine was sold a couple of weeks ago.
Jeep WJ UK?
That's it.

https://www.facebook.com/groups/283629655124821/

TiminYorkshire

514 posts

219 months

Tuesday 25th April 2017
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Nanook said:
popeyewhite said:
Normally I'd agree but I've been using Yokohama Geolandars for the first time on/off road recently and they are completely silent at 70 mph and very good off road (not p'n'p I'd hasten to add but muddy tracks and fields of a sheep farm). This is on a Jeep Grand Cherokee.
I've had these on my last 3 4x4s, a Kia Sorento, a Shogun Sport, and a LWB Shogun, and I personally think they're great in terms of off road ability, on road manners, and price.
What Geolanders are you running, I've noticed there are a number of varieties...

sparkythecat

7,902 posts

255 months

Tuesday 25th April 2017
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TiminYorkshire said:
Nanook said:
popeyewhite said:
Normally I'd agree but I've been using Yokohama Geolandars for the first time on/off road recently and they are completely silent at 70 mph and very good off road (not p'n'p I'd hasten to add but muddy tracks and fields of a sheep farm). This is on a Jeep Grand Cherokee.
I've had these on my last 3 4x4s, a Kia Sorento, a Shogun Sport, and a LWB Shogun, and I personally think they're great in terms of off road ability, on road manners, and price.
What Geolanders are you running, I've noticed there are a number of varieties...
I'm wondering that as well. When I searched my tyre size there were 11 different Geolanders to chose from.

tonyb1968

1,156 posts

146 months

Wednesday 26th April 2017
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Looks like quite a selection to choose from wink

Jeep Grand Cherokee, worth looking at as pretty cheap in that price bracket.
Disco's, or any LR really, just make sure the chassis are not rotten
Toyota Landcruisers & Hilux's, surprised no one has mentioned these.
Mitsubishi Shoguns, remember these back from the late 80's smile
Izuzu Troopers, another good one to look at.
Nissan terrano, not had much to do with those.
Nissan Patrol?



V8Sully

37 posts

113 months

Wednesday 26th April 2017
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How about the Ssangyong Rexton?

This one is for sale at your exact price and ticks all your wanted boxes.

eBay item number 272635983907

Sorry, don't know how to put the link in here

Cheers
Dave

lemmingjames

7,456 posts

204 months

Wednesday 26th April 2017
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chances are the OP buys none of the above and gets an MX5?

popeyewhite

19,869 posts

120 months

Wednesday 26th April 2017
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sparkythecat said:
TiminYorkshire said:
Nanook said:
popeyewhite said:
Normally I'd agree but I've been using Yokohama Geolandars for the first time on/off road recently and they are completely silent at 70 mph and very good off road (not p'n'p I'd hasten to add but muddy tracks and fields of a sheep farm). This is on a Jeep Grand Cherokee.
I've had these on my last 3 4x4s, a Kia Sorento, a Shogun Sport, and a LWB Shogun, and I personally think they're great in terms of off road ability, on road manners, and price.
What Geolanders are you running, I've noticed there are a number of varieties...
I'm wondering that as well. When I searched my tyre size there were 11 different Geolanders to chose from.
I've been using the Yokohama Geolandar A/T-S

downstairs

Original Poster:

3,558 posts

217 months

Friday 28th April 2017
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Hello again!

Just realised nobody's made any comments about the Suzuki Grand Vitara. I'd heard they were good value, reliable, and decently variable off road. And i must admit i expected to hear from a few people saying "never mind the image, they're surprisingly good cars". But there've been none.

Am i wrong thinking they might be worth a look?

TobyLerone

1,128 posts

144 months

Friday 28th April 2017
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Jeep Grand Cherokee?



https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/282450936930

Or maybe the V8 flavour if you can stretch your fuel budget.

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/2017...


Edited by TobyLerone on Friday 28th April 23:11

downstairs

Original Poster:

3,558 posts

217 months

Monday 5th June 2017
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Hello again! I'm still hopelessly trying to do this, looking at tons of cars and failing to buy anything.

A couple of quick questions: why shouldn't I buy a Jeep Grand Cherokee 2.7 crd? It's a Mercedes engine isn't it? Problems to be wary of?

Also; Nissan X Trail. I know, I know. No low range. But it looks like a terrific answer to the rest of my criteria. But I read terrifying things about reliability with the diesels. Is Di better than DCi? Are they both awful? Or is the internet a fearmongering liar and they're morning to worry about?

downstairs

Original Poster:

3,558 posts

217 months

Sunday 16th July 2017
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Thanks for all advice and suggestions. I have bought a 1997 Mitsubishi Shogun. Job done!