Dealing With Being Conned
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Why not get the car looked over by someone you trust to know what they're doing. If it's not got major structural issues then just drive the thing and forget about it. Also, if you commission a report, then it doesn't matter!
Just because it was once written off half it's life time ago doesn't mean the thing can't be good transport any longer.
You've just f
ked up a bunch of bones I think you said. They'll be repaired and you'll still function moving forward.
I know a few people all of whom have bought cat-d/c cars because they're better examples of the car than the non-recorded cars. I'm sure you can find the same (whilst being honest) if it is structurally sound.
Just because it was once written off half it's life time ago doesn't mean the thing can't be good transport any longer.
You've just f
ked up a bunch of bones I think you said. They'll be repaired and you'll still function moving forward.I know a few people all of whom have bought cat-d/c cars because they're better examples of the car than the non-recorded cars. I'm sure you can find the same (whilst being honest) if it is structurally sound.
''The Consumer Protection from Unfair Trading Regulations 2008 (CPRs) contains a general prohibition against unfair commercial practices and, in particular prohibitions against misleading actions, misleading omissions and aggressive commercial practices. The Regulations are enforceable through the civil and criminal courts.''
therefore both trading standards(criminal aspect) and suing through the small claims(civil), just sue the owner if changed company name. The first point would be to write a letter explaining what you are going to do. won't cost much to put a money claim through if they don't respond.
it creates an offence of misleading omissions which would not previously have been an offence if the consumer had not asked the right questions. So the trader knows the car has been badly badly damaged and repaired , as per the V5 , didn't tell you, he could be held liable/
cite case House of Cars Ltd v Derby Car and Van Contracts Ltd [2012] C.T.L.C. 62: misleading omissions, vehicle registration;
therefore both trading standards(criminal aspect) and suing through the small claims(civil), just sue the owner if changed company name. The first point would be to write a letter explaining what you are going to do. won't cost much to put a money claim through if they don't respond.
it creates an offence of misleading omissions which would not previously have been an offence if the consumer had not asked the right questions. So the trader knows the car has been badly badly damaged and repaired , as per the V5 , didn't tell you, he could be held liable/
cite case House of Cars Ltd v Derby Car and Van Contracts Ltd [2012] C.T.L.C. 62: misleading omissions, vehicle registration;
Edited by The Spruce goose on Wednesday 19th July 20:03
It's a Lexus, so it's likely to be a relaible old barge that has a decent 6 cylinder engine, and actually is pretty decent. OK, probably not worth £1700, but it's not horribly out of the way. Run it, look after it a bit, and for minimal investment, you could well have a car that goes to the moon and back.
We've all bought aars that are lemons.My favorite was a Renault that consumed 2 sets of injectors and a HP fuel pump in about 100 miles. (£1400 quids worth of parts alone), so you are defo not alone.
As I say, at least it's a decent reliable old car. That Golf would have been a money pit, so £1700 looks like a bargain.
We've all bought aars that are lemons.My favorite was a Renault that consumed 2 sets of injectors and a HP fuel pump in about 100 miles. (£1400 quids worth of parts alone), so you are defo not alone.
As I say, at least it's a decent reliable old car. That Golf would have been a money pit, so £1700 looks like a bargain.
Putting aside whether or not the car is usable and how much of a loss you might face for a moment.
I think the thing that shouts out from this sorry, but sadly not unusual tale, is how much of a
shyster the dealer is!
Sounds like this is a pretty typical modus operandi for him and more than happy to repeat the same dodgy practice on a number of people. Sooner or later someone really vulnerable is going to be taken advantage of, or worse, a car is going to be bought that is intrinsically unsafe. If this is the sort of thing that they do you can bet they are guilty of other stuff like clocking etc.
Name and shame if you ask me! Preferably with a big ugly mugshot to accompany it.
I think the thing that shouts out from this sorry, but sadly not unusual tale, is how much of a
shyster the dealer is!
Sounds like this is a pretty typical modus operandi for him and more than happy to repeat the same dodgy practice on a number of people. Sooner or later someone really vulnerable is going to be taken advantage of, or worse, a car is going to be bought that is intrinsically unsafe. If this is the sort of thing that they do you can bet they are guilty of other stuff like clocking etc.
Name and shame if you ask me! Preferably with a big ugly mugshot to accompany it.
bearman68 said:
It's a Lexus, so it's likely to be a relaible old barge that has a decent 6 cylinder engine, and actually is pretty decent. OK, probably not worth £1700, but it's not horribly out of the way. Run it, look after it a bit, and for minimal investment, you could well have a car that goes to the moon and back.
We've all bought aars that are lemons.My favorite was a Renault that consumed 2 sets of injectors and a HP fuel pump in about 100 miles. (£1400 quids worth of parts alone), so you are defo not alone.
As I say, at least it's a decent reliable old car. That Golf would have been a money pit, so £1700 looks like a bargain.
I agree, if it is functioning, has MOT, keep it. Lexus are THE most reliable car on the road.We've all bought aars that are lemons.My favorite was a Renault that consumed 2 sets of injectors and a HP fuel pump in about 100 miles. (£1400 quids worth of parts alone), so you are defo not alone.
As I say, at least it's a decent reliable old car. That Golf would have been a money pit, so £1700 looks like a bargain.
Hey OP - happens to us all at some point - its not the end of the world, you still have a car - it feels a bit sh!t for missing something that you would have found for someone else, but you'll live to fight another day
I'm very similar - friends and family come to me for help buying cars and i can usually sort them out fine - but in the 55 cars i've bought i've had some howlers too because i was either complacent, forgot or just got too excited by the thrill of the purchase.
A couple of stand outs for me:
- Buying a Renault Laguna from BCA Blackbushe without looking at it - POS that turned out to be before dumping all its oil on the ring road and seizing. Lost 60% of purchase price in 3 weeks
- Buying a low mileage E39 528i Touring - looked lovely, independent trader on his drive so had a few leaves on it from be parked under trees. Therefore only noticed the massive cock and balls scratched into the bonnet after i got it home and cleaned it for the first time!! Managed to polish most of it out - but still knew i was driving a car with a cock on the bonnet all the time i had it!
I'm very similar - friends and family come to me for help buying cars and i can usually sort them out fine - but in the 55 cars i've bought i've had some howlers too because i was either complacent, forgot or just got too excited by the thrill of the purchase.
A couple of stand outs for me:
- Buying a Renault Laguna from BCA Blackbushe without looking at it - POS that turned out to be before dumping all its oil on the ring road and seizing. Lost 60% of purchase price in 3 weeks
- Buying a low mileage E39 528i Touring - looked lovely, independent trader on his drive so had a few leaves on it from be parked under trees. Therefore only noticed the massive cock and balls scratched into the bonnet after i got it home and cleaned it for the first time!! Managed to polish most of it out - but still knew i was driving a car with a cock on the bonnet all the time i had it!
Getting scammed for a few quid when buying an older car from a dodgy dealer?
Yeah, we've all been there. Think of it as a rite of passage as a car guy, along with:
- Rolling a car/setting the airbags off in a crash (bonus points for doing both at the same time).
- Getting pulled by the police (bonus points if you did absolutely nothing wrong).
- Offloading a lemon to a dodgy dealer (VERY satisfying, this one).
- Using Radweld/K-Seal (bonus points if it actually works!)
- Breaking down in the middle of nowhere (bonus points if it happened at night, in an area with no mobile signal).
- Getting into a race with someone who gave you the "Fast and Furious" sideways glance at traffic lights (bonus points if you won the race).
- Losing a ton of money on a car you were CONVINCED would hold its value/appreciate (bonus points if that same model of car is now worth a fortune).
Getting done over by a shyster dealer is just another thing to tick off the list. Don't sweat it, man.
Yeah, we've all been there. Think of it as a rite of passage as a car guy, along with:
- Rolling a car/setting the airbags off in a crash (bonus points for doing both at the same time).
- Getting pulled by the police (bonus points if you did absolutely nothing wrong).
- Offloading a lemon to a dodgy dealer (VERY satisfying, this one).
- Using Radweld/K-Seal (bonus points if it actually works!)
- Breaking down in the middle of nowhere (bonus points if it happened at night, in an area with no mobile signal).
- Getting into a race with someone who gave you the "Fast and Furious" sideways glance at traffic lights (bonus points if you won the race).
- Losing a ton of money on a car you were CONVINCED would hold its value/appreciate (bonus points if that same model of car is now worth a fortune).
Getting done over by a shyster dealer is just another thing to tick off the list. Don't sweat it, man.
It's just a bit of tin and some paper folding stuff. Getting yourself better has to be the priority at the moment.
I'm guessing you're in some way laid up and have too much time to dwell on this.
Your pride is hurt - probably from a combination of this car thing and feeling a bit helpless with the injuries as well.
The car may be fine for some time to come.
Get well soon
I'm guessing you're in some way laid up and have too much time to dwell on this.
Your pride is hurt - probably from a combination of this car thing and feeling a bit helpless with the injuries as well.
The car may be fine for some time to come.
Get well soon
Sheepshanks said:
eybic said:
Aaaaaaaaaaaaaand your point is?
He paid far too much?The airbag light coming on after the valeters have been in it suggest the seats could have been moved and the seatbelt pre tensioners disturbed, this could mean a reset is enough.
A 15 year old car with a few screws missing from the radiator surround is hardly grounds for rejection. A Cat d status could really mean just a bumper and a radiator were replaced following a small shunt, I'd check the chassis legs for signs of damage and if they are fine I'd carry on with life and forget it.
I got had over a few years back, Mazda 6, 54k, drove nice no bad noises started when warm it was on for the £2400 price.
Had a gut feeling I should keep looking but I was sick of looking and fancied a mazda.
Drove 30 miles home and the wife go's for a drive, except it wont start. Back to manchester twice for the same issue, then the rear drivers door wouldn't lock, back to not starting, I figured out the issue and was gobsmacked that
1)He sold a car to me like that when I had a 1 year old baby with me
2) didnt fix the issue which cost me a few hours and £120
I fixed the issues and enjoyed the car for a few more weeks, I had started the route of trading standards but they told me it was pretty pointless he will fold (which he did) A few weeks later the wife went away for the weekend and I went to visit my family, reversing off my mums drive it felt like the gearbox had gone, no, just the 300 zip ties holding the linkage on. Enough's enough I zip tied it back up and traded it in.
I lost £700 over 3 months not including insurance cots, recovery etc. It would have been an ok car if I paid an OK price for it, but the head had been off the engine and the service history was a lie.
I kick myself for i now, I have bought lots of cars and I'm the first to notice anything dodgy, i'm the go to guy normally when buying second hand cars. We all live and learn
Had a gut feeling I should keep looking but I was sick of looking and fancied a mazda.
Drove 30 miles home and the wife go's for a drive, except it wont start. Back to manchester twice for the same issue, then the rear drivers door wouldn't lock, back to not starting, I figured out the issue and was gobsmacked that
1)He sold a car to me like that when I had a 1 year old baby with me
2) didnt fix the issue which cost me a few hours and £120
I fixed the issues and enjoyed the car for a few more weeks, I had started the route of trading standards but they told me it was pretty pointless he will fold (which he did) A few weeks later the wife went away for the weekend and I went to visit my family, reversing off my mums drive it felt like the gearbox had gone, no, just the 300 zip ties holding the linkage on. Enough's enough I zip tied it back up and traded it in.
I lost £700 over 3 months not including insurance cots, recovery etc. It would have been an ok car if I paid an OK price for it, but the head had been off the engine and the service history was a lie.
I kick myself for i now, I have bought lots of cars and I'm the first to notice anything dodgy, i'm the go to guy normally when buying second hand cars. We all live and learn
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