Superguard/Diamondbrite ??

Superguard/Diamondbrite ??

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ColinM50

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2,630 posts

174 months

Monday 24th July 2017
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Agreed a deal on a Mar 16 Toyota Aygo via a main dealer yesterday and they're really pushing their super polish deal incredibly hard. Had three calls from different people at the dealership telling me how I really must have this to protect my investment etc etc.

I've always been of the opinion that this is just snake oil and a way for the sales people to cop some extra commission and the £300 is purely going in their pockets.

All you folk in the trade/know, what's your feeling?

As I said to one of them earlier today, if it's so good why didn't it have this polish when it was new (or did it?) and how will I know if it's been done? Or is it me that'll be done if I order it?

TIA

Taita

7,591 posts

202 months

Monday 24th July 2017
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It's how they make their money.

They won't make much on the actual metal usually.

jsims1

291 posts

117 months

Monday 24th July 2017
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I have no doubt about the product being worth it, they all seem like good bits of kit. The problem with it is that the basic protection polish and interior guards are worth all of about 30 quid so the business makes a lot from it as it doesn't take long to apply. You can pick the kits up on eBay for a lot less and spend an afternoon doing it yourself.

ZX10R NIN

27,490 posts

124 months

Monday 24th July 2017
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Or get you local Detailer to do a proper job.

Yipper

5,964 posts

89 months

Monday 24th July 2017
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Just have a browse of Detailingworld. Myriad tales of such "special protection" products being unapplied, underapplied or misapplied to paintwork. They are just there as commission-incentives for salesmen in shiny suits. Dealers sell cars, they don't polish them. Give it a swerve. As above, take it to a pro detailer after purchase and get it detailed and ceramic-coated for roughly £400-800. Or do it yourself (properly) at home on the driveway for £200-300.

JulianHJ

8,733 posts

261 months

Monday 24th July 2017
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ZX10R NIN said:
Or get you local Detailer to do a proper job.
This. I had Gyeon Mohs+ applied to my new car last month. Another popular option is G-Techniq Crystal Serum. Neither are cheap, but they do offer proper paint protection compared to the rubbish flogged by dealers.

xjay1337

15,966 posts

117 months

Monday 24th July 2017
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Absolute waste of money

Better off paying a detailer to do it for you if you want.

Its almost all comission. Applied in 30 minutes by some immigrants / apprentices and costs 5 quid from ebay.

Ursicles

1,068 posts

241 months

Wednesday 26th July 2017
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Just ask them if its so good why it isnt listed on the manufacturers website.

Usually shuts them up.

Patch1875

4,893 posts

131 months

Wednesday 26th July 2017
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Supaguard kit costs around £30.

Salesman will get£50-£100 commission on it.

b19rak

369 posts

216 months

Thursday 27th July 2017
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I sold loads when I was a car sales exec for a Toyota. Really is a crap product. It's just of the shelf polish.

Alex_225

6,233 posts

200 months

Thursday 27th July 2017
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ZX10R NIN said:
Or get you local Detailer to do a proper job.
This! smile

Or spend less than £100 on some products which will work and last even better.

Don't get me wrong there are sealants out there that can last years but the prep work involved to get them to last that long is significant.

When I last bought a new car they offered one of these sealants as part of the deal. I declined as I explained I like detailing my own cars. The sales chap said I could have the product anyway and left it in the boot. The instructions for it's application made for interesting reading.

In short the car has to be defect and contaminant free. So effectively clayed, polished and panel wiped. The sealant then had to be applied in a dry, shaded area and left to cure for quite some time. Once applied it could then be buffed off and job done. To be done as per the instructions it would take a significant chunk of the day.

If your average dealership valeter is going to go to all of those lengths then great. My money is on the fact that they won't!

mikey P 500

1,236 posts

186 months

Thursday 27th July 2017
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On my gt86 (bought used but from a main dealer) I declined the cost of supaguard. After trying to sell it, the day before I went to collect the car the dealer explained they had done the supaguard anyway (so confident they could upsell it, the workshop add it anyway as part of the prep).