Buy diesel in 2018 or not?

Buy diesel in 2018 or not?

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daemon

35,813 posts

197 months

Saturday 20th January 2018
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hyphen said:
daemon said:
Most modern petrol cars are turbo petrol so you can drive on the torque (and have the benefit of a bit of RPM too).

If you're doing big miles, diesels are still the way to go. However i would say 12,000 mile pa and i'd be going for a petrol.

Too many risks with modern diesels around DPFs, DMFs, turbos, injectors, pumps, etc. I bought my Passat TDI at a year old and 16K miles on it. Needed a new DPF before 18,000 miles (light came on a week after i got it so the issue lay in its first years driving). Got it done under warranty but there was a £2,350 bill if i'd been paying.

Why have the risk when the O/P is doing just average miles or less?
Are they finding any problems with modern petrols though? Engines ar getting smaller and smaller and they are squeezing out more power - so are they getting over complicated or is that not the case.
In the context of the cars the O/P is looking at, they'll be 2.0 litre turbo'd four pots, so not applicable.

I think the C200 is around 190 ish BHP out of its 2.0 litre turbo, which is in no way stressing it given the A45 produces around 380BHP from a 2.0 litre turbo.

ph-sum

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20 posts

77 months

Saturday 20th January 2018
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Thank you to all of your expert advice and suggestions.

Still can’t make my mind! What about Merc C300h, diesel and hybrid, can’t understand the logic of hybrid mechanism with diesel? Expensive even 3 years old is touching around 20k.

Edited by ph-sum on Saturday 20th January 20:17

daemon

35,813 posts

197 months

Saturday 20th January 2018
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ph-sum said:
Thank you to all of your expert advice and suggestions.

Still can’t make my mind! What about Merc C300h, diesel and hybrid, can’t understand the logic of hybrid mechanism with diesel? Expensive even 3 years old is touching around 20k.

Edited by ph-sum on Saturday 20th January 20:17
IF you want to avoid a diesel, then a C200 is your car.

anxious_ant

2,626 posts

79 months

Saturday 20th January 2018
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ph-sum said:
Thank you to all of your expert advice and suggestions.

Still can’t make my mind! What about Merc C300h, diesel and hybrid, can’t understand the logic of hybrid mechanism with diesel? Expensive even 3 years old is touching around 20k.

Edited by ph-sum on Saturday 20th January 20:17
Own 15 plate C300h. Best car I've ever owned in terms of satisfying my long commuting needs. Never drops before 45mpg even in heavy traffic yet comes with decent enough performance. I can't fault it at all. If I do consider a replacement it might be the E class hybrid.

ph-sum

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20 posts

77 months

Wednesday 31st January 2018
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anxious_ant said:
Own 15 plate C300h. Best car I've ever owned in terms of satisfying my long commuting needs. Never drops before 45mpg even in heavy traffic yet comes with decent enough performance. I can't fault it at all. If I do consider a replacement it might be the E class hybrid.
I do like Merc C300H but cannot justify spending 20k on it. I think Merc C220d or Merc C200 fits my budget.

It would be interesting to know the real MPG on these two cars Merc C220d (diesel) or Merc C200 (petrol) here.

daemon

35,813 posts

197 months

Wednesday 31st January 2018
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ph-sum said:
It would be interesting to know the real MPG on these two cars Merc C220d (diesel) or Merc C200 (petrol) here.
You're probably looking at 50ish versus high 30s.

https://www.honestjohn.co.uk/realmpg/mercedes-benz...