Buying a Honda Civic from a dealer - strange plate issues?

Buying a Honda Civic from a dealer - strange plate issues?

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nojoeing

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17 posts

67 months

Monday 17th September 2018
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Hello,

I looked at a great Honda Civic MK8 2007 25k miles. There is a full service history to confirm the miles. Up until this point everything checks out but then there is the issue with the number plate. The car had a private plate at the dealer and after checking the MOT I got all years of MOT testing so it seems the original buyer got it with this plate from the start and always resold it with the plate.

The dealer told me that he needs to change this to the stock plate and that will take a few days which is fine with me. He told me the original number and it is supposed to be ******* which doesn't return anything on DVLA for MOT or tax and nothing on cazana.com.

The current private plate - ******* shows all the years of MOT including the registration date in 2007. I suppose if the first buyer somehow got the car with the private number and no one ever used the stock one it wont show in cazana.com but the strange thing is that if I put the private number in cazana.com I get the supposed previous original number which is ******* and is for a different black Honda Hybrid which according to DVLA is actually registered 3 days later than mine so that doesn't make sense as it should be the other way round if that was the original plate.

I am not sure what has happened. My only theory is that the first owner got it with the private plate and the original one was never even registered with DVLA (don't know if that's possible) so cazana.com simply looks for the Honda Civic with the nearest registration date to mine and finds the black hybrid from the 30th of April.

My question is is this something to worry about or just some sort of record keeping screw-up? Thanks.

Edited by nojoeing on Tuesday 21st July 13:04

RSTurboPaul

10,326 posts

258 months

Tuesday 18th September 2018
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Have you contacted Cazana to clarify how their site works?

Nickp82

3,181 posts

93 months

Tuesday 18th September 2018
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nojoeing said:
Hello,

I looked at a great Honda Civic MK8 2007 25k miles. There is a full service history to confirm the miles. Up until this point everything checks out but then there is the issue with the number plate. The car had a private plate at the dealer and after checking the MOT I got all years of MOT testing so it seems the original buyer got it with this plate from the start and always resold it with the plate.

The dealer told me that he needs to change this to the stock plate and that will take a few days which is fine with me. He told me the original number and it is supposed to be SB07NHX which doesn't return anything on DVLA for MOT or tax and nothing on cazana.com.

The current private plate - IIW1025 shows all the years of MOT including the registration date in 2007. I suppose if the first buyer somehow got the car with the private number and no one ever used the stock one it wont show in cazana.com but the strange thing is that if I put the private number in cazana.com I get the supposed previous original number which is SB07WHX and is for a different black Honda Hybrid which according to DVLA is actually registered 3 days later than mine so that doesn't make sense as it should be the other way round if that was the original plate.

I am not sure what has happened. My only theory is that the first owner got it with the private plate and the original one was never even registered with DVLA (don't know if that's possible) so cazana.com simply looks for the Honda Civic with the nearest registration date to mine and finds the black hybrid from the 30th of April.

My question is is this something to worry about or just some sort of record keeping screw-up? Thanks.
This sounds perfectly normal, the VOSA MOT history system will only link one reg number to a car which will be the registration currently on that vehicle. Once the dealer has transferred/retained the private plate you will find the MOT history is all visible under the SB07 registration both on Cazana and the VOSA which it pulls the info from. Ignore the WHX registration that is clearly not anything to do with the car you are buying.

Butter Face

30,283 posts

160 months

Tuesday 18th September 2018
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HPI says that the orginal reg is definitely SB07NHX. It was registered on that plate, changed to a different private plate in 07/16, back to the original in 08/16 and then to the current private plate in 09/16.

nojoeing

Original Poster:

17 posts

67 months

Tuesday 18th September 2018
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Thanks everyone for checking this. I am more confident in the deal now.

And thanks for the HPI check Butter Face. How did you get it for free?

Butter Face

30,283 posts

160 months

Tuesday 18th September 2018
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It's not free, I'm just a nice guy. HTH

nojoeing

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17 posts

67 months

Thursday 20th September 2018
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Butter Face said:
It's not free, I'm just a nice guy. HTH
Thanks a lot. Just wondering if you still have it can you confirm that it’s not a CatC/D? Thanks.

Butter Face

30,283 posts

160 months

Thursday 20th September 2018
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nojoeing said:
Butter Face said:
It's not free, I'm just a nice guy. HTH
Thanks a lot. Just wondering if you still have it can you confirm that it’s not a CatC/D? Thanks.
It's clear except the plate transfers.

Aeschylus

62 posts

69 months

Thursday 20th September 2018
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nojoeing said:
Thanks a lot. Just wondering if you still have it can you confirm that it’s not a CatC/D? Thanks.
FYI if you try to sell it on Autotrader, it automatically tells you if it is a Cat car

Funky Squirrel

368 posts

72 months

Thursday 20th September 2018
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Three letters followed by four numbers is a Northern Ireland standard plate. Was the car originally bought in norn iron then brought over to the mainland during its life?

Scrump

21,975 posts

158 months

Thursday 20th September 2018
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Funky Squirrel said:
Three letters followed by four numbers is a Northern Ireland standard plate. Was the car originally bought in norn iron then brought over to the mainland during its life?
Butterface has confirmed it was originally registered on a mainland plate
Butter Face said:
HPI says that the orginal reg is definitely SB07NHX. It was registered on that plate, changed to a different private plate in 07/16, back to the original in 08/16 and then to the current private plate in 09/16.
The NI plate was seemingly put on in 2016 as a cherished number, not unusual for NI plates to be put on mainland cars as a cheap dateless plate.

nojoeing

Original Poster:

17 posts

67 months

Monday 24th September 2018
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Butter Face said:
It's clear except the plate transfers.
Hi, it's me again. Just one more question. Valuation sites seem to calculate the car having ~90k miles. Does the HPI have an estimate of the miles? Is it nearer 25k or 90k? Thanks.