Horrible motorway commute £6,000
Discussion
Shiv_P said:
Avoid the BMW's with the N47 4 pot diesel, the timing chains are a time bomb
Here we go...chains go from bad servicing, I have done around 300k in various N47 powered cars, ones never pooped its chain, as the oil has been changed @10k - EGR problems, but that is most diesels.DoubleD said:
I would rather see less of the traffic, so happy to be lower down!
Auto is a must for you I think op
I'm thinking more about being able to see that lane closure sign up ahead or the broken down car / accident. Auto is a must for you I think op
Definitely auto for traffic, I'll probably never go back to manual unless something sporty.
Vauxhall Insignia 1.6 CDTI.
Yes I know its a Vauxhall but from experience, these are brilliant commuter cars. Very comfy and totally stable on motorways. I've just had a look on line and £6200 will get you into a 65 plate with above average miles, so you get a car that is far newer than a BMW or Audi for the same money, with all the modern mod-cons and those 1.6 diesels are very economical in real world conditions.
Piaggio Mp3 with a Tucano apron and bar muffs for the winter.
Should do the trip in well under an hour whatever the traffic is like. Saves you 5+ hours a week!
You don't need a motorcycle licence as you can ride the LT version on your car licence
Even through it is a three-wheeler you can still filter through traffic.
The three-wheeler design makes it very secure to ride even in slippery conditions
The big front screen and the apron will keep rain off of you. Just add a waterproof jacket. Bar muffs combined with heated grips will keep hands warm even in sub-zero temperatures.
Should do the trip in well under an hour whatever the traffic is like. Saves you 5+ hours a week!
You don't need a motorcycle licence as you can ride the LT version on your car licence
Even through it is a three-wheeler you can still filter through traffic.
The three-wheeler design makes it very secure to ride even in slippery conditions
The big front screen and the apron will keep rain off of you. Just add a waterproof jacket. Bar muffs combined with heated grips will keep hands warm even in sub-zero temperatures.
boyse7en said:
Piaggio Mp3 with a Tucano apron and bar muffs for the winter.
Should do the trip in well under an hour whatever the traffic is like. Saves you 5+ hours a week!
You don't need a motorcycle licence as you can ride the LT version on your car licence
Even through it is a three-wheeler you can still filter through traffic.
The three-wheeler design makes it very secure to ride even in slippery conditions
The big front screen and the apron will keep rain off of you. Just add a waterproof jacket. Bar muffs combined with heated grips will keep hands warm even in sub-zero temperatures.
OP, have you considered a Pogo stick? Beanie hat and socks over your trousers will keep you warm and you can park anywhere as you don’t need to!Should do the trip in well under an hour whatever the traffic is like. Saves you 5+ hours a week!
You don't need a motorcycle licence as you can ride the LT version on your car licence
Even through it is a three-wheeler you can still filter through traffic.
The three-wheeler design makes it very secure to ride even in slippery conditions
The big front screen and the apron will keep rain off of you. Just add a waterproof jacket. Bar muffs combined with heated grips will keep hands warm even in sub-zero temperatures.
FlatToTheMat said:
OP, have you considered a Pogo stick? Beanie hat and socks over your trousers will keep you warm and you can park anywhere as you don’t need to!
So what's your suggestion? The OP has a bike license so a motorbike/scooter makes the most sense. Nothing good to say say nothing.
embo182 said:
Smiljan, that Auris looks good. Cheers.
The slower you crawl the more economical it is. Takes a while to get your head around it, but while it is really economical on the open road, it is insanely economical in stop start traffic - which is when you think it would be awful.Comfortable, good sound system as standard and incredibly reliable and dull. Perfect for your commute. If you don't get well over 60mpg I'll be very surprised.
ZX10R NIN said:
So what's your suggestion? The OP has a bike license so a motorbike/scooter makes the most sense.
Nothing good to say say nothing.
I hardly said a bad thing now did I Ninja? It was clearly tongue in cheek Nothing good to say say nothing.
Ok ok, my serious sensible suggestion is as follows, LPG, Auto and bargey. Why LPG? Well I chose this option in the past to suit the same scenario the OP set out.They are Inherently reliable, don't sound like a Skeleton w
king in a metal dustbin (Diesel) and more relaxing to drive (less NVH) you have two tanks of fuel on board etcLexus RX300 LPG (NIce road height, dining chair driving position, excellent quality etc and just an all round versatile car) Also note on BRC LPG systems, Ive ran 2 cars with such a system, both were 100% faultless in over 140k combines miles despite 0 maintenance on them (not recommended but shows their robustness)
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201...
Cheap but older Lexus, GS this time, again with BRC but many miles would be covered, plus it dont owe ya much (That always appeals to me) https://www.gumtree.com/p/lexus/lexus-gs-300-3.0-p... althoughid argue this is 300-500 overpriced (Just my opinion)
FlatToTheMat said:
boyse7en said:
Piaggio Mp3 with a Tucano apron and bar muffs for the winter.
Should do the trip in well under an hour whatever the traffic is like. Saves you 5+ hours a week!
You don't need a motorcycle licence as you can ride the LT version on your car licence
Even through it is a three-wheeler you can still filter through traffic.
The three-wheeler design makes it very secure to ride even in slippery conditions
The big front screen and the apron will keep rain off of you. Just add a waterproof jacket. Bar muffs combined with heated grips will keep hands warm even in sub-zero temperatures.
OP, have you considered a Pogo stick? Beanie hat and socks over your trousers will keep you warm and you can park anywhere as you don’t need to!Should do the trip in well under an hour whatever the traffic is like. Saves you 5+ hours a week!
You don't need a motorcycle licence as you can ride the LT version on your car licence
Even through it is a three-wheeler you can still filter through traffic.
The three-wheeler design makes it very secure to ride even in slippery conditions
The big front screen and the apron will keep rain off of you. Just add a waterproof jacket. Bar muffs combined with heated grips will keep hands warm even in sub-zero temperatures.
FlatToTheMat said:
I hardly said a bad thing now did I Ninja? It was clearly tongue in cheek
Ok ok, my serious sensible suggestion is as follows, LPG, Auto and bargey. Why LPG? Well I chose this option in the past to suit the same scenario the OP set out.They are Inherently reliable, don't sound like a Skeleton wking in a metal dustbin (Diesel) and more relaxing to drive (less NVH) you have two tanks of fuel on board etc
Lexus RX300 LPG (NIce road height, dining chair driving position, excellent quality etc and just an all round versatile car) Also note on BRC LPG systems, Ive ran 2 cars with such a system, both were 100% faultless in over 140k combines miles despite 0 maintenance on them (not recommended but shows their robustness)
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201...
Cheap but older Lexus, GS this time, again with BRC but many miles would be covered, plus it dont owe ya much (That always appeals to me) https://www.gumtree.com/p/lexus/lexus-gs-300-3.0-p... althoughid argue this is 300-500 overpriced (Just my opinion)
Ok ok, my serious sensible suggestion is as follows, LPG, Auto and bargey. Why LPG? Well I chose this option in the past to suit the same scenario the OP set out.They are Inherently reliable, don't sound like a Skeleton w
king in a metal dustbin (Diesel) and more relaxing to drive (less NVH) you have two tanks of fuel on board etcLexus RX300 LPG (NIce road height, dining chair driving position, excellent quality etc and just an all round versatile car) Also note on BRC LPG systems, Ive ran 2 cars with such a system, both were 100% faultless in over 140k combines miles despite 0 maintenance on them (not recommended but shows their robustness)
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201...
Cheap but older Lexus, GS this time, again with BRC but many miles would be covered, plus it dont owe ya much (That always appeals to me) https://www.gumtree.com/p/lexus/lexus-gs-300-3.0-p... althoughid argue this is 300-500 overpriced (Just my opinion)
I know it was tongue in cheek but was just (& using your comment to get it across) making a point as it happens a lot, not you but others.I reread it & I came across a bit harsh, so apologies for that.
you want comfy and relaxing, and you want it cheap. Behold the Citroen C5 diesel auto, ideally in Exclusive trim with the posh suspension. You will get a lovely low mileage version for 4-5k with loads of life left in it. Those 2.0HDI engines have a great reputation on here and I don't think you would get something any comfier for the money at that age and price.
If going down the bike route I'd probably look more at touring bikes for the comfort and perhaps even shaft driven for less maintenance, the negatives of shaft aren't really all that important for traffic jam commuting. Panniers would be handy also and shouldn't really get in the way with filtering on a motorway.
Sweating in summer, bad weather dangers, freezing in winter... all not ideal to endure to then arrive at work. Then the inevitable cage which is being 'driven' (I use this word in the loosest possible way) by some asinine tt who neither indicators or checks their mirrors.
I feel like it's become far too busy to risk riding these days and it's not as if the ever busier roads are being filled with better drivers!
Sweating in summer, bad weather dangers, freezing in winter... all not ideal to endure to then arrive at work. Then the inevitable cage which is being 'driven' (I use this word in the loosest possible way) by some asinine t
t who neither indicators or checks their mirrors. I feel like it's become far too busy to risk riding these days and it's not as if the ever busier roads are being filled with better drivers!
ZX10R NIN said:
I reread it & I came across a bit harsh, so apologies for that.
Jag_NE said:
Behold the Citroen C5 diesel auto, ideally in Exclusive trim with the posh suspension.
Actually a great suggestion, Look out for ones with Xenons and the Massage seats, woman wont be looking for your keys in the bowl but a comfy way to cover some miles! And a bit different ninjag said:
If going down the bike route I'd probably look more at touring bikes for the comfort and perhaps even shaft driven for less maintenance, the negatives of shaft aren't really all that important for traffic jam commuting. Panniers would be handy also and shouldn't really get in the way with filtering on a motorway.
Sweating in summer, bad weather dangers, freezing in winter... all not ideal to endure to then arrive at work. Then the inevitable cage which is being 'driven' (I use this word in the loosest possible way) by some asinine tt who neither indicators or checks their mirrors.
I feel like it's become far too busy to risk riding these days and it's not as if the ever busier roads are being filled with better drivers!
I commute on my bike into Central London 2-3 times a week & I don't mind it, yes there are some that don't indicate etc but the more you ride the more you spot the tell tale signs that someone is about to pull across your path.Sweating in summer, bad weather dangers, freezing in winter... all not ideal to endure to then arrive at work. Then the inevitable cage which is being 'driven' (I use this word in the loosest possible way) by some asinine t
t who neither indicators or checks their mirrors. I feel like it's become far too busy to risk riding these days and it's not as if the ever busier roads are being filled with better drivers!
Sometimes you get no warning but I've been riding into the City of London for over ten years in which I've ended up on the floor three times one from a pedestrian who stepped out from between busses without looking clipping my handlebar the other was from a cyclist & the last a diesel spillage.
Now I think that's partly down to luck & a decent amount of good judgement of the road conditions, I have no problem riding in in fact the two hours a day I save not sitting in traffic is priceless.
Commuted every day from one end of London to the other for years on supersports bikes and I loved it and also not having to take the tube and DLR etc. I was in my twenties though. But three accidents, all cages and all worse injuries than the last forced me to give up. It got to the point where every car that appeared at a side road made me brace in case they hadn't seen me or more commonly didn't give a toss and just pulled out.
I miss the supersports performance though but too many dependents to risk it now. I did notice a shift to trail bike styles with many other riders commuting.
I also found that the concentration needed when filtering and going quickly could be quite tiring once you'd sat down.
I miss the supersports performance though but too many dependents to risk it now. I did notice a shift to trail bike styles with many other riders commuting.
I also found that the concentration needed when filtering and going quickly could be quite tiring once you'd sat down.
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