Why the PH hatred for PCP?

Why the PH hatred for PCP?

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Butter Face

30,295 posts

160 months

Thursday 17th January 2019
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But but but


CASHHHHHHH IIIISSSSS KIIIIINNNGGGGG


hehe

TheStigsWeeBrother

344 posts

65 months

Thursday 17th January 2019
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roadsmash said:
Joey Deacon said:
If you had £10k in a Marcus account at 1.5 over 48 months you would have £10,617.97 after 4 years

If you borrow £10k from Asda at 2.8% over 48 months you pay back a total of £10,574.40 after 4 years

So given this example would it not be better to get the car on finance and keep the cash in the bank for a rainy day?
Gordon? Jim? Where are you?

Would you argue against this totally reasonable decision?
What relevance to pcp are those examples?

roadsmash

2,622 posts

70 months

Thursday 17th January 2019
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TheStigsWeeBrother said:
roadsmash said:
Joey Deacon said:
If you had £10k in a Marcus account at 1.5 over 48 months you would have £10,617.97 after 4 years

If you borrow £10k from Asda at 2.8% over 48 months you pay back a total of £10,574.40 after 4 years

So given this example would it not be better to get the car on finance and keep the cash in the bank for a rainy day?
Gordon? Jim? Where are you?

Would you argue against this totally reasonable decision?
What relevance to pcp are those examples?
Errrrrr just swap Asda for VWFS. And consider the figure the “total amount repayable” including the balloon.

Quite simple?

TheStigsWeeBrother

344 posts

65 months

Thursday 17th January 2019
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roadsmash said:
TheStigsWeeBrother said:
roadsmash said:
Joey Deacon said:
If you had £10k in a Marcus account at 1.5 over 48 months you would have £10,617.97 after 4 years

If you borrow £10k from Asda at 2.8% over 48 months you pay back a total of £10,574.40 after 4 years

So given this example would it not be better to get the car on finance and keep the cash in the bank for a rainy day?
Gordon? Jim? Where are you?

Would you argue against this totally reasonable decision?
What relevance to pcp are those examples?
Errrrrr just swap Asda for VWFS. And consider the figure the “total amount repayable” including the balloon.

Quite simple?
Do VWFS do used cars at 2.8%?

roadsmash

2,622 posts

70 months

Thursday 17th January 2019
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TheStigsWeeBrother said:
roadsmash said:
TheStigsWeeBrother said:
roadsmash said:
Joey Deacon said:
If you had £10k in a Marcus account at 1.5 over 48 months you would have £10,617.97 after 4 years

If you borrow £10k from Asda at 2.8% over 48 months you pay back a total of £10,574.40 after 4 years

So given this example would it not be better to get the car on finance and keep the cash in the bank for a rainy day?
Gordon? Jim? Where are you?

Would you argue against this totally reasonable decision?
What relevance to pcp are those examples?
Errrrrr just swap Asda for VWFS. And consider the figure the “total amount repayable” including the balloon.

Quite simple?
Do VWFS do used cars at 2.8%?
You’re being very pedantic.

Swap Asda for roadsmash finance. biglaugh

It’s the same result.

roadsmash

2,622 posts

70 months

Thursday 17th January 2019
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Regardless... The thread has moved on from just PCP and has grown into “anyone financing a car by any means necessary is wrong.” Not just PCP.

It’s very easy to get a £10k loan at 2.8%.

TheStigsWeeBrother

344 posts

65 months

Thursday 17th January 2019
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roadsmash said:
TheStigsWeeBrother said:
roadsmash said:
TheStigsWeeBrother said:
roadsmash said:
Joey Deacon said:
If you had £10k in a Marcus account at 1.5 over 48 months you would have £10,617.97 after 4 years

If you borrow £10k from Asda at 2.8% over 48 months you pay back a total of £10,574.40 after 4 years

So given this example would it not be better to get the car on finance and keep the cash in the bank for a rainy day?
Gordon? Jim? Where are you?

Would you argue against this totally reasonable decision?
What relevance to pcp are those examples?
Errrrrr just swap Asda for VWFS. And consider the figure the “total amount repayable” including the balloon.

Quite simple?
Do VWFS do used cars at 2.8%?
You’re being very pedantic.

Swap Asda for roadsmash finance. biglaugh

It’s the same result.
The point being that pcp on used cars are very rarely at 2.8%. wink

anonymous-user

54 months

Thursday 17th January 2019
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TheStigsWeeBrother said:
roadsmash said:
Joey Deacon said:
If you had £10k in a Marcus account at 1.5 over 48 months you would have £10,617.97 after 4 years

If you borrow £10k from Asda at 2.8% over 48 months you pay back a total of £10,574.40 after 4 years

So given this example would it not be better to get the car on finance and keep the cash in the bank for a rainy day?
Gordon? Jim? Where are you?

Would you argue against this totally reasonable decision?
What relevance to pcp are those examples?
I was just pointing out that even though signing a PCP agreement is most convenient way of buying a car, you can get a much better deal if you get a personal loan instead. I guess the monthly figure for the Asda loan is higher than a PCP with balloon so in a lot of people eyes would appear more expensive.

roadsmash

2,622 posts

70 months

Thursday 17th January 2019
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TheStigsWeeBrother said:
roadsmash said:
TheStigsWeeBrother said:
roadsmash said:
TheStigsWeeBrother said:
roadsmash said:
Joey Deacon said:
If you had £10k in a Marcus account at 1.5 over 48 months you would have £10,617.97 after 4 years

If you borrow £10k from Asda at 2.8% over 48 months you pay back a total of £10,574.40 after 4 years

So given this example would it not be better to get the car on finance and keep the cash in the bank for a rainy day?
Gordon? Jim? Where are you?

Would you argue against this totally reasonable decision?
What relevance to pcp are those examples?
Errrrrr just swap Asda for VWFS. And consider the figure the “total amount repayable” including the balloon.

Quite simple?
Do VWFS do used cars at 2.8%?
You’re being very pedantic.

Swap Asda for roadsmash finance. biglaugh

It’s the same result.
The point being that pcp on used cars are very rarely at 2.8%. wink
See my previous post. :/

TheStigsWeeBrother

344 posts

65 months

Thursday 17th January 2019
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roadsmash said:
Regardless... The thread has moved on from just PCP and has grown into “anyone financing a car by any means necessary is wrong.” Not just PCP.

It’s very easy to get a £10k loan at 2.8%.
Who said “anyone financing a car by any means is wrong”?

roadsmash

2,622 posts

70 months

Thursday 17th January 2019
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TheStigsWeeBrother said:
roadsmash said:
Regardless... The thread has moved on from just PCP and has grown into “anyone financing a car by any means necessary is wrong.” Not just PCP.

It’s very easy to get a £10k loan at 2.8%.
Who said “anyone financing a car by any means is wrong”?
Oh for god sake it’s been alluded to many times in this thread have a read.

TheStigsWeeBrother

344 posts

65 months

Thursday 17th January 2019
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roadsmash said:
TheStigsWeeBrother said:
roadsmash said:
Regardless... The thread has moved on from just PCP and has grown into “anyone financing a car by any means necessary is wrong.” Not just PCP.

It’s very easy to get a £10k loan at 2.8%.
Who said “anyone financing a car by any means is wrong”?
Oh for god sake it’s been alluded to many times in this thread have a read.
I have read a fair bit of this thread and it has not come across like that but if anyone thinks that well they are entitled to that opinion but I don’t agree.

Gordon_Roslin

83 posts

65 months

Thursday 17th January 2019
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One other bloke on here said it best - he realised he's getting up in the morning to drive to work to get money to pay for the thing he uses to drive to work.

Who is going to be on their dead bed going 'well at least I paid the finance company guy's mortgage?' It really is as simple as that. I have a degree of respect for people who just say 'you only live once' and admit they are widdling their money away, but not people who claim to be financial geniuses for taking out PCP that exists solely to rip them off and enrich car companies.

Any comedian getting a PCP every 3 years needs to take that £10,000 at 20 and invest it in low cost index funds - do this for 25 years and they'll have about £40k which will be enough to walk in to any dealership and buy a good car. Live within your means or spend your life working for stuff you can't afford to pretend to be Charlie Large Potatoes, it really is up to you.

Deep Thought

35,813 posts

197 months

Thursday 17th January 2019
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Gordon_Roslin said:
One other bloke on here said it best - he realised he's getting up in the morning to drive to work to get money to pay for the thing he uses to drive to work.
Maybe that would hold true for your salary, but the last PCP deal we had amounted to 5% of our monthly net income.

Gordon_Roslin said:
Who is going to be on their dead bed going 'well at least I paid the finance company guy's mortgage?' It really is as simple as that. I have a degree of respect for people who just say 'you only live once' and admit they are widdling their money away, but not people who claim to be financial geniuses for taking out PCP that exists solely to rip them off and enrich car companies.
Everything you buy is "paying someone elses mortgage" - thats how life works. Do you not buy groceries as you're "paying the supermarket owners mortgage"?

You seem to have this binary view that someone with a PCP deal is spending every last penny of their money on a car. This is generally not the case.

People - myself included - find a balance point by enjoying ourselves but not to the extend of not being able to save or plan for the future.

Gordon_Roslin said:
Any comedian getting a PCP every 3 years needs to take that £10,000 at 20 and invest it in low cost index funds - do this for 25 years and they'll have about £40k which will be enough to walk in to any dealership and buy a good car. Live within your means or spend your life working for stuff you can't afford to pretend to be Charlie Large Potatoes, it really is up to you.
In 25 years time when you factor in inflation your £40K will buy you some entry level Fiesta if you're lucky. woohoo

And what do you do in the meantime? Walk? Tell people you're saving up and thumb lifts? Hope to not die in the meantime?

Butter Face

30,295 posts

160 months

Thursday 17th January 2019
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Gordon will be the richest guy in the cemetery, no cars on PCP though, what a legend, I reckon they’ll stick that in his obituary for sure hehe

Save for 25 years to spend £40k on a car, cash, that’s his legit advice, what a plonker rofl

This thread is like UPS, just keeps on delivering the goods.

Edited by Butter Face on Thursday 17th January 21:18

TheStigsWeeBrother

344 posts

65 months

Thursday 17th January 2019
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Brooking goes on about “sneering” and there’s plenty going on in the last couple of posts.

Deep Thought

35,813 posts

197 months

Thursday 17th January 2019
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TheStigsWeeBrother said:
Brooking goes on about “sneering” and there’s plenty going on in the last couple of posts.
You need to look up the definition of sneering.


roadsmash

2,622 posts

70 months

Thursday 17th January 2019
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Butter Face said:
Gordon will be the richest guy in the cemetery, no cars on PCP though, what a legend, I reckon they’ll stick that in his obituary for sure hehe

Save for 25 years to spend £40k on a car, cash, that’s his legit advice, what a plonker rofl

This thread is like UPS, just keeps on delivering the goods.

Edited by Butter Face on Thursday 17th January 21:18
I honestly believe that Gordon’s 25 year financial plan is one of the funniest I’ve ever heard in years.

Who needs a 5yr Hire Purchase or loan when you can just wait 25 years to buy the car cash?!

Epic epic thread.

roadsmash

2,622 posts

70 months

Thursday 17th January 2019
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IMAGINE saving for 25 years... only to buy a rapidly depreciating object with it and watching your investment sink like a stone.

Gordon you tit!

Taaaaang

6,599 posts

186 months

Thursday 17th January 2019
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Gordon_Roslin said:
One other bloke on here said it best - he realised he's getting up in the morning to drive to work to get money to pay for the thing he uses to drive to work.

Who is going to be on their dead bed going 'well at least I paid the finance company guy's mortgage?' It really is as simple as that. I have a degree of respect for people who just say 'you only live once' and admit they are widdling their money away, but not people who claim to be financial geniuses for taking out PCP that exists solely to rip them off and enrich car companies.

Any comedian getting a PCP every 3 years needs to take that £10,000 at 20 and invest it in low cost index funds - do this for 25 years and they'll have about £40k which will be enough to walk in to any dealership and buy a good car. Live within your means or spend your life working for stuff you can't afford to pretend to be Charlie Large Potatoes, it really is up to you.
25 years? Jesus.

I've got a question for you:

I'm considering selling my Ferrari and PCPing an E class.

Can I afford this Mercedes?