New Q Car

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ZX10R NIN

27,603 posts

125 months

Sunday 19th May 2019
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If you want a Q Car that's even more stealth than the Skoda I'd say the Infiniti Q70/50 (360bhp 0-60mph in the low 5's) is the way to go.

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201...

Q50

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201...

Both will be as good a steer as the Superb with a fit & finish more in line with an Audi & the performance to put a smile on your face, the Q70 is more stealthy.



Edited by ZX10R NIN on Sunday 19th May 21:06

Croutons

9,876 posts

166 months

Sunday 19th May 2019
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MrModo said:
Hub said:
I'm loving that...right down to the Bentley-esque badge
Holy crap, that's a good £23k of depreciation inbound for the new buyer!

TorqueVR

1,838 posts

199 months

Sunday 19th May 2019
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BMW 335 or a 435. I have a 435 coupe and he has a 335 tourer both de-badged and as anonymous as you could get. Bang on the money and look like lowly 2.0 litres.

MrModo

47 posts

133 months

Sunday 19th May 2019
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Croutons said:
Holy crap, that's a good £23k of depreciation inbound for the new buyer!
And plenty more to give to the next buyer too!

tdm34

7,369 posts

210 months

Sunday 19th May 2019
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300bhp, 4WD, big and totally anonymous.............

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201...

Pit Pony

8,557 posts

121 months

Sunday 19th May 2019
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Ron99 said:
Currently running an Insignia 2.8 in Elite trim so as to have something brisk but under the radar.

No wings, no skirts, no bling, no lowering, no big alloys, no pothole-prone-low-profile tyres, no bucket seats, nor anything else to differentiate it from other Insignias, except a small badge on the boot which says V6 4X4.

Being a Vauxhall, no self-respecting car thief would want to steal it anyway, so no fear leaving it parked somewhere. And even car experts won't be aware of its existence because they overlooked Vauxhall.

Not the fastest car by modern standards (0-60 = 6.7s from a slushbox auto, top speed limited to 155mph) but brisk enough and handles well for such a big heavy car. High road tax, thirsty in slow town traffic (20mpg), but respectable mpg on longer runs (35mpg).
Vectra 2.8 Turbo elite with 1.8 badges



Hub

6,434 posts

198 months

Sunday 19th May 2019
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Croutons said:
MrModo said:
Hub said:
I'm loving that...right down to the Bentley-esque badge
Holy crap, that's a good £23k of depreciation inbound for the new buyer!
Well you're a glass half empty sort aren't you - it's a half price bargain don't you know? winkeek

MaxSo

1,910 posts

95 months

Sunday 19th May 2019
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BMW i3.

I'm only half joking.

blearyeyedboy

6,291 posts

179 months

Sunday 19th May 2019
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Hub said:
Croutons said:
MrModo said:
Hub said:
I'm loving that...right down to the Bentley-esque badge
Holy crap, that's a good £23k of depreciation inbound for the new buyer!
Well you're a glass half empty sort aren't you - it's a half price bargain don't you know? winkeek
Loving that. It's like a modern Phaeton, but better built.

ninjag

1,827 posts

119 months

Monday 20th May 2019
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blearyeyedboy said:
Hub said:
Croutons said:
MrModo said:
Hub said:
I'm loving that...right down to the Bentley-esque badge
Holy crap, that's a good £23k of depreciation inbound for the new buyer!
Well you're a glass half empty sort aren't you - it's a half price bargain don't you know? winkeek
Loving that. It's like a modern Phaeton, but better built.
I remember reading about this car and apparently it's very over-engineered. Could be worth a look.

RSTurboPaul

10,371 posts

258 months

Monday 20th May 2019
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Older than 2014, but Passat R36?

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201...

Swap the front grille for one without the R36 badge and I don't think anyone would know what model it was.



On a side note, lol at the amount of tyre rubber on Bluewater car park floor in those pictures - clearly it is a suitable location for drifting practice!

Ranger 6

7,052 posts

249 months

Tuesday 21st May 2019
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Ron99 said:
Not a six or eight cylinder but another one to make the badge snobs squirm and the car thieves overlook it:

Vauxhall Astra (K) Elite
1.6T, 200PS, 0-60 = 6.6s, 146mph.

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201...
No where near quick enough to be a Q car. My diesel SUV will do 0-62 in 5.2 seconds, so a decent Q car needs to be under 5 seconds to be considered.

There are very few cars these days that can be considered a Q car in standard form. My suggestion would be a remapped estate car with small wheels.

Pit Pony

8,557 posts

121 months

Wednesday 22nd May 2019
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Ranger 6 said:
Ron99 said:
Not a six or eight cylinder but another one to make the badge snobs squirm and the car thieves overlook it:

Vauxhall Astra (K) Elite
1.6T, 200PS, 0-60 = 6.6s, 146mph.

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201...
No where near quick enough to be a Q car. My diesel SUV will do 0-62 in 5.2 seconds, so a decent Q car needs to be under 5 seconds to be considered.

There are very few cars these days that can be considered a Q car in standard form. My suggestion would be a remapped estate car with small wheels.
Oh fk off was my initial reaction.
But a little rude, so let me disagree.
Look.at it. Faceless, almost brandless. Could be made by anyone. Nobody woukd give it a second glance.
At its quick. (Enough)
Quick enough to overtake slow biddies on a B Road on a short straight.

bennno

Original Poster:

11,637 posts

269 months

Wednesday 22nd May 2019
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Thanks all, Skoda Superb 280 was best leftfield suggestion, however had a look and only 8 were for sale and a lot in red. Ended up at Blackbushe auctions and got a bargain E class Mercedes Estate instead, which is less Q car in terms of performance but represented decent value for money and hopefully something that wont get bothered with etc.

Croutons

9,876 posts

166 months

Wednesday 22nd May 2019
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Hub said:
Well you're a glass half empty sort aren't you - it's a half price bargain don't you know? winkeek
Well I look forward to seeing it in the 1-5k smoker barge thread. Won't be long!!


What engine/ model did you get OP? Is it a Q car?!

Ranger 6

7,052 posts

249 months

Wednesday 22nd May 2019
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Pit Pony said:
Ranger 6 said:
Ron99 said:
Not a six or eight cylinder but another one to make the badge snobs squirm and the car thieves overlook it:

Vauxhall Astra (K) Elite
1.6T, 200PS, 0-60 = 6.6s, 146mph.

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201...
No where near quick enough to be a Q car. My diesel SUV will do 0-62 in 5.2 seconds, so a decent Q car needs to be under 5 seconds to be considered.

There are very few cars these days that can be considered a Q car in standard form. My suggestion would be a remapped estate car with small wheels.
Oh fk off was my initial reaction.
But a little rude, so let me disagree.
Look.at it. Faceless, almost brandless. Could be made by anyone. Nobody woukd give it a second glance.
At its quick. (Enough)
Quick enough to overtake slow biddies on a B Road on a short straight.
thumbup

Ron99

1,985 posts

81 months

Wednesday 22nd May 2019
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Ranger 6 said:
No where near quick enough to be a Q car. My diesel SUV will do 0-62 in 5.2 seconds, so a decent Q car needs to be under 5 seconds to be considered.

There are very few cars these days that can be considered a Q car in standard form. My suggestion would be a remapped estate car with small wheels.
I suggest read the definition of a Q-ship then consider what a Q-car would be. Could a Q-ship be expected to sink Bismarck, or even Scharnhorst, or even Prinz Eugen?

I would say a Q-car is as much about surprise as it is outright performance. A normal looking Astra that can reach 60 in 6.6s would come as a surprise most people.

Narcisus

8,074 posts

280 months

Wednesday 22nd May 2019
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Ranger 6 said:
No where near quick enough to be a Q car. My diesel SUV will do 0-62 in 5.2 seconds, so a decent Q car needs to be under 5 seconds to be considered.

There are very few cars these days that can be considered a Q car in standard form. My suggestion would be a remapped estate car with small wheels.
rolleyes

ZX10R NIN

27,603 posts

125 months

Wednesday 22nd May 2019
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Ranger 6 said:
No where near quick enough to be a Q car. My diesel SUV will do 0-62 in 5.2 seconds, so a decent Q car needs to be under 5 seconds to be considered.

There are very few cars these days that can be considered a Q car in standard form. My suggestion would be a remapped estate car with small wheels.
In standard form I'd say the Infiniti's are easy winners for Q car status especially the Q70 anything in the low 5's is quick enough IMO:

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201...

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201...

Anyway the OP is sorted now, the Genesis is a very good shout if you plan on keeping it a while I have supplied three of them & they're amazing value as well as having an amazing fit & finish. They make a great family wagon, they're quick loaded with kit as well as that warranty (& that can be extended) that instills a massive peace of mind.

Genesis

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201...

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201...

When you start talking about depreciation the German big saloons depreciate at a very similar rate but no warranty & more potential for a big bill.

7 Series

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201...

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201...



Glasgowrob

3,245 posts

121 months

Wednesday 22nd May 2019
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having a look at those astra Ks 200 bhp cheeky remap will see you about 230-235 bhp

especially if you buy an estate smile anyone have any real world fuel figures? quite fancy one on the taxi fleet