Leasing - General Discussion

Leasing - General Discussion

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recordman

386 posts

125 months

Tuesday 16th February 2021
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Mark V GTD said:
Gazzab said:
Not sure what your issue is re the plate. It’s a lease.
I disagree - whether its a lease or a purchase or whatnot its still the car I drive every day. If I am paying good money and ordered the car as it was advertised or promised to be on the new plate then I would expect to get it.
The registration date might be an issue. It could have been registered anytime within the previous 6 months. In the case of a 3 year lease this will mean having to pay for and go to the trouble of obtaining an MOT before the end of the lease. Also, there will not be the benefit of the manufacturer's full 3 year warranty for the length of the lease.

Mark V GTD

2,214 posts

124 months

Friday 19th February 2021
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Good point - especially as there seems to be glut of 36 month contracts being promoted at the moment.

cheeky_chops

1,589 posts

251 months

Monday 22nd February 2021
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Got the missus to call up lex and ask if we could reduce the mileage from 8k to 5k pa as her merc e class convertible is due back in October and we have only done 7k miles due to covid

Great news, they reduced last 6 payments from £470pm to £350 so we are £700 better off!

mrpbailey

975 posts

186 months

Tuesday 23rd February 2021
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As per the majority of folk, we haven’t covered the mileage we expected in the first 12 months of our 3 year lease. Called the lease company to get a quote to reduce the mileage over term, expecting we could maybe save a few quid each month.
Car is an Alfa Stelvio. 3 + 35, 15k/annum, so 45k total. Done around 8k first year.

Currently pay £406/month.
Requested quotes to reduce total term mileage to a)36k and b)30k.
Quote a) £425/month
Quote b) £403/month

Suffice to say we will be staying on our original 15k/annum contract!

faulkus76

3 posts

38 months

Tuesday 23rd February 2021
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So my vehicle was collected this morning and the inspector only noted 2 bodywork scratches.
I was expecting a lot more, however i note that he labelled the car as dirty and the weather wet (neither of which was true as shown in the report photos).
I know there will be a second inspection - has anyone had experience of them adding a load of extra on at this stage which wasn't picked up at collection?

jonny996

2,614 posts

217 months

Tuesday 23rd February 2021
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mrpbailey said:
As per the majority of folk, we haven’t covered the mileage we expected in the first 12 months of our 3 year lease. Called the lease company to get a quote to reduce the mileage over term, expecting we could maybe save a few quid each month.
Car is an Alfa Stelvio. 3 + 35, 15k/annum, so 45k total. Done around 8k first year.

Currently pay £406/month.
Requested quotes to reduce total term mileage to a)36k and b)30k.
Quote a) £425/month
Quote b) £403/month

Suffice to say we will be staying on our original 15k/annum contract!
I can beat that one, I'm 15 months into a 24 month contract on a evouque.
Allowance is 10K pa
Currently on 7K
Asked for quote on 6K pa
Payment would change from £338 to £615.
Seriously

smallredball

122 posts

38 months

Tuesday 23rd February 2021
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Despite being a bit reticent to lease, I am looking into it. Mainly to test an EV for two years while the market develops.

I can lease it personally or via my Ltd co, although there seems to be no difference (just VAT accounted for, or not). My question is what sort of credit checks are done? Embarrassingly, personally I earn almost zilch technically - would a leasing company look at me and think I'm a bad risk? At the moment, I take a tiny (nominal) salary, some small amount of dividends and leave all of the profits in the Ltd company account. Pay off my credit card every month, and we have had no mortgage for >10 years.

Leasing through the company probably bypasses that, but what credit checks does the leasing company do for that - check annual return at Companies House? A year's bank statements?

(Apologies for the newbness of these qs)

Gazzab

21,091 posts

282 months

Tuesday 23rd February 2021
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smallredball said:
Despite being a bit reticent to lease, I am looking into it. Mainly to test an EV for two years while the market develops.

I can lease it personally or via my Ltd co, although there seems to be no difference (just VAT accounted for, or not). My question is what sort of credit checks are done? Embarrassingly, personally I earn almost zilch technically - would a leasing company look at me and think I'm a bad risk? At the moment, I take a tiny (nominal) salary, some small amount of dividends and leave all of the profits in the Ltd company account. Pay off my credit card every month, and we have had no mortgage for >10 years.

Leasing through the company probably bypasses that, but what credit checks does the leasing company do for that - check annual return at Companies House? A year's bank statements?

(Apologies for the newbness of these qs)
I have leased 2 cars whilst a contractor on a low salary but with dividends. I had no issues with a ‘pch’ deal where vw ask me to sign the paperwork as a co representative but take the £s from my personal account. Don’t recall any credit or earnings issues.

smallredball

122 posts

38 months

Tuesday 23rd February 2021
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^ Thanks. I suppose that the lease representatives have had many of these conversations for contractors. I'll try calling one or two tomorrow.

I just saw that Nationwide Leasing had a preliminary checklist for business leasing with one question being: "can you give a Director's guarantee?" Maybe CV19 business failures are making them a bit nervous.

Gazzab

21,091 posts

282 months

Tuesday 23rd February 2021
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smallredball said:
^ Thanks. I suppose that the lease representatives have had many of these conversations for contractors. I'll try calling one or two tomorrow.

I just saw that Nationwide Leasing had a preliminary checklist for business leasing with one question being: "can you give a Director's guarantee?" Maybe CV19 business failures are making them a bit nervous.
Ultimately you are going to want a business lease. Decent electric cars are expensive and the business deals are good because of the bik deal. Otherwise an ev makes little sense imho.

mrpbailey

975 posts

186 months

Tuesday 23rd February 2021
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jonny996 said:
I can beat that one, I'm 15 months into a 24 month contract on a evouque.
Allowance is 10K pa
Currently on 7K
Asked for quote on 6K pa
Payment would change from £338 to £615.
Seriously
It’s crazy, especially when you compare to the poster above who got his monthlies reduced by a sensible amount!

PenelopaPitstop

2,164 posts

133 months

Wednesday 24th February 2021
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Different finance companies, different politics. Looks like Evoque finance was just re-calculated based on current prices, hence stupid numbers.

I had stupid extension from VWFS in past, going from £390 pcm to £1000 pcm.

Daz_86

387 posts

186 months

Wednesday 24th February 2021
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Hi all, new to the thread, currently got a 36mo. lease that's up at the start of sept this year.

I'm looking to VT it to save myself 50% of the remaining payments, as the car just isn't being used and its a few hundred a month I'd rather have in the bank, and I can replace it with an outright bought shed for the minimum miles I do.

My question is about the insurance side of things. If I buy said shed, and transfer my insurance over, what's the position regarding the lease car while waiting for the VT to go through? Pretty sure continuous enforcement rules mean it cant just sit there uninsured until they collect it can it?

smallredball

122 posts

38 months

Wednesday 24th February 2021
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Oops. 10 minutes after choosing a 9+24 deal on an electric Ioniq (£215/mo amortised), Hyundai does a world-wide recall. So it's back to the drawing board...

loskie

5,216 posts

120 months

Wednesday 24th February 2021
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DAZ you need to check if you have a lease or PCP.

Why do people NOT UNDERSTAND the financial products that they sign up to?

Gazzab

21,091 posts

282 months

Wednesday 24th February 2021
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loskie said:
DAZ you need to check if you have a lease or PCP.

Why do people NOT UNDERSTAND the financial products that they sign up to?
He said he has a lease. So he has a lease ...!? His question is the insurance for the leased vehicle. The answer is = if they don’t collect the car at the date your contract finishes then the insurance is entirely the lease co’s problem.

loskie

5,216 posts

120 months

Wednesday 24th February 2021
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you missed the VT bit and 50% of payments, does that not suggest PCP to you?

roadsmash

2,622 posts

70 months

Wednesday 24th February 2021
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loskie said:
you missed the VT bit and 50% of payments, does that not suggest PCP to you?
VWFS (and some other lease companies) will only charge a PCH lessee c. 50% of the total remaining monthly rental.

I believe Daz is using the term VT erroneously, but I think he’s referring to PCH.

If he’s referring to PCP, then he’s VERY confused with regards to how VT’ing works. smile

roadsmash

2,622 posts

70 months

Wednesday 24th February 2021
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loskie said:
Why do people NOT UNDERSTAND the financial products that they sign up to?
Yeah I think he’s just used the wrong terminology dude. He’s said ‘VT’ instead of ‘cancel’.

Chill.

roadsmash

2,622 posts

70 months

Wednesday 24th February 2021
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Daz_86 said:
My question is about the insurance side of things. If I buy said shed, and transfer my insurance over, what's the position regarding the lease car while waiting for the VT to go through? Pretty sure continuous enforcement rules mean it cant just sit there uninsured until they collect it can it?
Don’t cancel your insurance until the lease agreement is cancelled.

It is your responsibility to keep the car insured while the agreement is in force, as per the T&C’s in the contract.