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19Dogger87

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68 posts

139 months

Saturday 4th July 2020
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In the market for a change of cars and looking for something to meet the following criteria;

Big enough rear space for car seat
Big enough boot space for pram and other ancillary items (e.g. >400 L)
Preferably petrol due to c8k PA
Budget 15k absolute maximum
'Reliable'
In the region of 20 - 30 mpg is OK, although higher preferred


Things I've considered;
Peugeot 308 GTI - was top contender but poor residual and apparent electrical faults have dampened the appeal
Octavia VRS - like the interior, hate the exterior
BMW 33x touring - poor overpriced examples in budget, mostly diesel.
Golf GTD estate - diesel...
Golf R estate - appealing to theives


What am I missing?!

ZX10R NIN

27,598 posts

125 months

Saturday 4th July 2020
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I've not heard of any major electrical gremlins on the 308, I'd say you're missing the Mondeo in Vignale

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/202...

Or the Titanium preferably with the X Pack option ticked:

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/202...

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/202...

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/202...

Focus ST-3 Estate

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/202...

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/202...

Hatch

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/202...

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/202...

This is the same car as the A250 amg engineered model but with added AWD inside it's an A Class too the downside is it's not as hot as some of the other options but it trumps them all for fit & finish.

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/202...

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/202...

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/202...

M135i but bring the buggy & check the boot

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/202...

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/202...

2.0T Q50 Sport Tech 360 cameras Adaptive Cruise etc

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201...

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/202...

Leon Cupra Estate 280/290

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/202...

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/202...

V40 T5 R Design Pro

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201...

Insignia VXR Underrated swift & a bit different

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/202...

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/202...

Leftfield:

Lexus IS-F

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/202...

VXR8

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/202...

I'd say still consider the 308 GTI they're very good cars.


19Dogger87

Original Poster:

68 posts

139 months

Sunday 5th July 2020
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Thanks for that... Certainly a good range, although already discounted the V40, 1 series and ST hatch on boot size. Nothing can match the 308 in that respect. ST estate looks worth investigating.

Couldn't face spending 15k on an infinity. Looks aside, it will likely be worth nothing when I come to move it on.

Insignia in estate form would be preferable. They look considerably better, something to think about...

Thanks,

Sc0tchland

434 posts

81 months

Sunday 5th July 2020
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ZX10R NIN said:
What sort of real life MPG would the Estate ST3 get ZX10? Thank you

19Dogger87

Original Poster:

68 posts

139 months

Sunday 5th July 2020
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Sc0tchland said:
ZX10R NIN said:
What sort of real life MPG would the Estate ST3 get ZX10? Thank you
I'd take a guess at 25-30 for the petrol and >40 for the diesel

ZX10R NIN

27,598 posts

125 months

Sunday 5th July 2020
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19Dogger87 said:
Thanks for that... Certainly a good range, although already discounted the V40, 1 series and ST hatch on boot size. Nothing can match the 308 in that respect. ST estate looks worth investigating.

Couldn't face spending 15k on an infinity. Looks aside, it will likely be worth nothing when I come to move it on.

Insignia in estate form would be preferable. They look considerably better, something to think about...

Thanks,
No problem the V60 might suit you better especially in T6 form:

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/202...

S3 Sportback

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/202...

2.0T S Line Sportback I think the S3 above represents better value overall

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/202...

VXR Estate these are a bit rarer & not quite as much of a bargain as the hatch but as you say they suit your requirements.

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/202...

Or if you can live with a 2.0T 250bhp then the regular Insignia is great value:

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/202...

16v stretch

975 posts

157 months

Sunday 5th July 2020
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19Dogger87 said:
Thanks for that... Certainly a good range, although already discounted the V40, 1 series and ST hatch on boot size. Nothing can match the 308 in that respect. ST estate looks worth investigating.

Couldn't face spending 15k on an infinity. Looks aside, it will likely be worth nothing when I come to move it on.

Insignia in estate form would be preferable. They look considerably better, something to think about...

Thanks,
I spent 24k on a 2.2d Q50 in 2015ish, sold 2 years later for 11k with 25000 on the clock. I too would also not spend 15k on an Infiniti, especially now they're out of the UK.

On topic though, I was going to suggest a 340i, as the earlier examples should be getting nearer 15k, but the mileage on them are a bit high, and the CO2 is higher than you want.

Audi A6 Avant 3.0 TDi could be a shout if you're open to diesels? Definitely going to fit everything in the boot.

If you can get over the gopping back end (and diesel again...) there's the 335D GT




ZX10R NIN

27,598 posts

125 months

Sunday 5th July 2020
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16v stretch said:
I spent 24k on a 2.2d Q50 in 2015ish, sold 2 years later for 11k with 25000 on the clock. I too would also not spend 15k on an Infiniti, especially now they're out of the UK.

On topic though, I was going to suggest a 340i, as the earlier examples should be getting nearer 15k, but the mileage on them are a bit high, and the CO2 is higher than you want.

Audi A6 Avant 3.0 TDi could be a shout if you're open to diesels? Definitely going to fit everything in the boot.

If you can get over the gopping back end (and diesel again...) there's the 335D GT
With regards to the Infiniti's it sounds like you bought/sold at the wrong time people are only now staring to work this brand out (the cheapest 2015 with 30k on is still 10k) but hey that's the car market, I have family with Q50's who've only lost 1k over the last two years but they are the hybrid model.

At this end of the market their prices are dropping at a similar rate to Mondeos etc.

anonymous-user

54 months

Sunday 5th July 2020
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Knock the price down or raid the piggy bank a wee bit ?

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/153987902532

19Dogger87

Original Poster:

68 posts

139 months

Sunday 5th July 2020
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ZX10R NIN said:
19Dogger87 said:
Thanks for that... Certainly a good range, although already discounted the V40, 1 series and ST hatch on boot size. Nothing can match the 308 in that respect. ST estate looks worth investigating.

Couldn't face spending 15k on an infinity. Looks aside, it will likely be worth nothing when I come to move it on.

Insignia in estate form would be preferable. They look considerably better, something to think about...

Thanks,
No problem the V60 might suit you better especially in T6 form:

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/202...

S3 Sportback

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/202...

2.0T S Line Sportback I think the S3 above represents better value overall

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/202...

VXR Estate these are a bit rarer & not quite as much of a bargain as the hatch but as you say they suit your requirements.

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/202...

Or if you can live with a 2.0T 250bhp then the regular Insignia is great value:

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/202...
That V60 really looks appealing - shame I can't stretch to the updated interior, but it is certainly a contender!

Boot is probably a bit small on the Audi A3/S3, I think I would be looking at S4 Avant territory. But it would be a high miler 3.0 V6 in budget.

19Dogger87

Original Poster:

68 posts

139 months

Sunday 5th July 2020
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16v stretch said:
19Dogger87 said:
Thanks for that... Certainly a good range, although already discounted the V40, 1 series and ST hatch on boot size. Nothing can match the 308 in that respect. ST estate looks worth investigating.

Couldn't face spending 15k on an infinity. Looks aside, it will likely be worth nothing when I come to move it on.

Insignia in estate form would be preferable. They look considerably better, something to think about...

Thanks,
I spent 24k on a 2.2d Q50 in 2015ish, sold 2 years later for 11k with 25000 on the clock. I too would also not spend 15k on an Infiniti, especially now they're out of the UK.

On topic though, I was going to suggest a 340i, as the earlier examples should be getting nearer 15k, but the mileage on them are a bit high, and the CO2 is higher than you want.

Audi A6 Avant 3.0 TDi could be a shout if you're open to diesels? Definitely going to fit everything in the boot.

If you can get over the gopping back end (and diesel again...) there's the 335D GT
Agree on the 340i, maybe even out of haggling reach for a decent one in budget...

RizzoTheRat

25,162 posts

192 months

Sunday 5th July 2020
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Leon? Prettier than the octavia, less thief magnet than the golf.

ZX10R NIN

27,598 posts

125 months

Sunday 5th July 2020
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Sc0tchland said:
What sort of real life MPG would the Estate ST3 get ZX10? Thank you
Real world 28-35mpg