BMW 4 series options
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This is my first post so apologies if anything I say is obvious - I’ve tried searching the forums but haven’t quite found what I’m specifically after.
I currently have a 2006 Toyota celica. It’s running pretty well (120k, no massive issues other than the expected wear and tear) and I love it as a fun car. Unfortunately it’s not really practical so I’m looking to get something more practical (read 5 dr) but which still has an element of fun.
I’m looking at the bmw 4 series gran coupe. With my current miles, going petrol makes more sense and ideally I’d like a manual. I’m looking at either a 420i or 440i but have a same concern which most people debating this seem to have which is power. My friend has a pretty much standard A5 which doesn’t really do it for me in terms of power. I haven’t been able to test drive one due to lockdown but I’m guessing the 420i will be similarly underwhelming based on what other people seem to be saying in this forum and others.
So do I
A) get a 420i and get a remap to essentially bring it to 430i power
Or b) suck it up and get a 440 (although I’m struggling to find a manual one)
I should clarify I’m looking at models from 2017-20ish (not a fan of the new range). I also work for a car supermarket so could get the 420 for around 17-18k which would likely be a hefty saving on the 440.
If you’ve made it this far then thanks for reading, any advice would be great
I currently have a 2006 Toyota celica. It’s running pretty well (120k, no massive issues other than the expected wear and tear) and I love it as a fun car. Unfortunately it’s not really practical so I’m looking to get something more practical (read 5 dr) but which still has an element of fun.
I’m looking at the bmw 4 series gran coupe. With my current miles, going petrol makes more sense and ideally I’d like a manual. I’m looking at either a 420i or 440i but have a same concern which most people debating this seem to have which is power. My friend has a pretty much standard A5 which doesn’t really do it for me in terms of power. I haven’t been able to test drive one due to lockdown but I’m guessing the 420i will be similarly underwhelming based on what other people seem to be saying in this forum and others.
So do I
A) get a 420i and get a remap to essentially bring it to 430i power
Or b) suck it up and get a 440 (although I’m struggling to find a manual one)
I should clarify I’m looking at models from 2017-20ish (not a fan of the new range). I also work for a car supermarket so could get the 420 for around 17-18k which would likely be a hefty saving on the 440.
If you’ve made it this far then thanks for reading, any advice would be great
Edited by AW008 on Friday 26th February 12:48
We have the '21 M440
Great car, but in the US it is only available in automatic
It has the B58 3.0L inline six cylinder. Great power and still Xdrive so it is good in the snow, would be awesome in the snow If I put winter tires and wheels.
There is plenty of trunk space, very comfortable with great features inside like wireless phone charging and USBC ports for other stuff.
It has only been a month but it is great on gas....that is if you can keep your foot from going to the floor...which is fun also.
Yes, that is a corvette in the background. The local BMW dealer took it in on trade.
The previous owners traded it and another car to upgrade to a 4 series.
Hope this helps you a little
Cheers
Great car, but in the US it is only available in automatic
It has the B58 3.0L inline six cylinder. Great power and still Xdrive so it is good in the snow, would be awesome in the snow If I put winter tires and wheels.
There is plenty of trunk space, very comfortable with great features inside like wireless phone charging and USBC ports for other stuff.
It has only been a month but it is great on gas....that is if you can keep your foot from going to the floor...which is fun also.
Yes, that is a corvette in the background. The local BMW dealer took it in on trade.
The previous owners traded it and another car to upgrade to a 4 series.Hope this helps you a little
Cheers
The 440 engine is excellent. I had the 340i touring and you will be pleased you paid the extra. The gearbox is excellent on these cars and you will struggle to find manual one as they aren't great in the desirability stakes and are hard to sell on. It will cost you much more to own a manual one in the holding cost of owning it.
Any reason why you wont have an auto?
I would go and drive a 340i or 440i auto and then find what you want. Its a great car and the auto box makes it.
Any reason why you wont have an auto?
I would go and drive a 340i or 440i auto and then find what you want. Its a great car and the auto box makes it.
interstellar said:
The 440 engine is excellent. I had the 340i touring and you will be pleased you paid the extra. The gearbox is excellent on these cars and you will struggle to find manual one as they aren't great in the desirability stakes and are hard to sell on. It will cost you much more to own a manual one in the holding cost of owning it.
Any reason why you wont have an auto?
I would go and drive a 340i or 440i auto and then find what you want. Its a great car and the auto box makes it.
Ah yeah, did some Googling since posting this thread and I didn’t realise they went all manual with the 440 a few years back. To be honest it’s purely because I’ve always owned manual (I’m based in the UK) and I just prefer having that added element of control. That being said, if the paddle shift option works well on the automatic then that would be fine if the alternative is a manual 420 based on the responses so farAny reason why you wont have an auto?
I would go and drive a 340i or 440i auto and then find what you want. Its a great car and the auto box makes it.
I have a 240i with the B58 engine and a manual gearbox. Not sure if it's available with manual in the 4 series. Either way I would definately say go for the 440i.
I think if you went for the 420i with or without a remap you would end up regretting not getting the 440. It's worth the extra money for the engine.
I think if you went for the 420i with or without a remap you would end up regretting not getting the 440. It's worth the extra money for the engine.
The 440i Gran Coupé was only ever made with an auto box. The two door 440i Coupé was available with a manual but there aren't many around.
The 440i makes a wonderful noise - makes the M3/M4 sound like a tractor IMO. I'm currently contemplating a 420i but if I could afford the extra cost of the 440i I'd go for it without giving it a second thought.
The 440i makes a wonderful noise - makes the M3/M4 sound like a tractor IMO. I'm currently contemplating a 420i but if I could afford the extra cost of the 440i I'd go for it without giving it a second thought.
I have a 420 coupe and under most situations the power is adequate, the plan is to remap it when the warranty runs out.
It depends if you want or need all the power for me I wanted something nearly new and pristine and a more powerful engine model would have been more than I wanted to pay so I will go down the remap route for now.......
It depends if you want or need all the power for me I wanted something nearly new and pristine and a more powerful engine model would have been more than I wanted to pay so I will go down the remap route for now.......
RonnieHotdogs said:
440i every single time. Amazing engine, and gave me better fuel economy than my current b48 engined car.
That's the thing. People go for the smaller engined petrols, fearing the economy of the 3 litre straight 6, but the bigger engine is so under stressed at motorway speeds it actually returns better mpg.
If you want a 4 series for best possible economy then get one of the diesels. In any other case I'd get the 440i.
My 440i averages a true 29.8mpg. The car isn’t driven particularly lightly and that’s with around 70% town / 30% motorway use in a mixture of Comfort & Sport. I never use Eco Pro.
Pretty astonishing IMO.
For reference - my previous Alfa (from new) only returned an average of 26.5mpg. 2 litre, 4 cylinder with 280bhp. Same usage.
Pretty astonishing IMO.
For reference - my previous Alfa (from new) only returned an average of 26.5mpg. 2 litre, 4 cylinder with 280bhp. Same usage.
MarkJS said:
My 440i averages a true 29.8mpg. The car isn’t driven particularly lightly and that’s with around 70% town / 30% motorway use in a mixture of Comfort & Sport. I never use Eco Pro.
Pretty astonishing IMO.
For reference - my previous Alfa (from new) only returned an average of 26.5mpg. 2 litre, 4 cylinder with 280bhp. Same usage.
Looks like we had the same cars Pretty astonishing IMO.
For reference - my previous Alfa (from new) only returned an average of 26.5mpg. 2 litre, 4 cylinder with 280bhp. Same usage.
My veloce was s
t on fuel too. Same with my current m135i - highly strained 2.0Ts seem to have a drinking problem no matter how you baby them.carparkno1 said:
My 440i is for sale but it's 2 door so probably not for you
Get the bigger engine. Its so good on mpg its supernatural, and you wouldn't want the notchy non existent manual anyways. Zf8 auto with paddles is brilliant.
Yeah sadly the 5dr is going to be the way forward, going to need those back doors to get the dog in.Get the bigger engine. Its so good on mpg its supernatural, and you wouldn't want the notchy non existent manual anyways. Zf8 auto with paddles is brilliant.
And cheers for all the responses above, looks like the 440 is the way forward so I’ll start hunting around for some deals
shiversaint said:
carparkno1 said:
My 440i is for sale but it's 2 door so probably not for you
Get the bigger engine. Its so good on mpg its supernatural, and you wouldn't want the notchy non existent manual anyways. Zf8 auto with paddles is brilliant.
Got a link to the ad?Get the bigger engine. Its so good on mpg its supernatural, and you wouldn't want the notchy non existent manual anyways. Zf8 auto with paddles is brilliant.
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/2020103056...
AW008 said:
carparkno1 said:
My 440i is for sale but it's 2 door so probably not for you
Get the bigger engine. Its so good on mpg its supernatural, and you wouldn't want the notchy non existent manual anyways. Zf8 auto with paddles is brilliant.
Yeah sadly the 5dr is going to be the way forward, going to need those back doors to get the dog in.Get the bigger engine. Its so good on mpg its supernatural, and you wouldn't want the notchy non existent manual anyways. Zf8 auto with paddles is brilliant.
And cheers for all the responses above, looks like the 440 is the way forward so I’ll start hunting around for some deals
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