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IPR said:
Great deal! Congrats! You get the same with the GT Version version, 360 is only optional spec. The only difference is that lack of front parking sensors.
Ah good to know! The reverse cam is more useful than a 360 anyway personally think - the lack of front parking sensors i only noticed when I almost parked it in a bush waiting for it to beep!!! I think real world range is about 250 with stingy climate usage on faster roads. Although interestingly the economy after a 20 minute fast charged increased massively i assume as the battery was warmer.
160kw charger peaked at 114kw delivery but dropped to about 70kw after 10 minutes or so.
Really like the car overall. Having to plan quite a bit as I am deliberately using it a lot and dont have my own charger yet - leaving it overnight once a week at my parents and topping it up on the road when fast/cheap or needed will be fine for now.
joropug said:
160kw charger peaked at 114kw delivery but dropped to about 70kw after 10 minutes or so.
How much did that cost per KWH? Doing some quick calculation it seems that if you have to use public chargers then it is going to cost more to run that a petrol car?I worked out this morning that at 25p per KWH for home charging it is essentially 8p per mile. My petrol car at 40MPG costs the equivalent of 15 pence per mile.
In future there is definitely going to be a social wealth divide between those that have a drive and can charge from home and those that don't and have to public charge. I actually wonder if house values of terraced houses and flats without off street parking will fall as EV cars become the norm?
ThingsBehindTheSun said:
How much did that cost per KWH? Doing some quick calculation it seems that if you have to use public chargers then it is going to cost more to run that a petrol car?
I worked out this morning that at 25p per KWH for home charging it is essentially 8p per mile. My petrol car at 40MPG costs the equivalent of 15 pence per mile.
In future there is definitely going to be a social wealth divide between those that have a drive and can charge from home and those that don't and have to public charge. I actually wonder if house values of terraced houses and flats without off street parking will fall as EV cars become the norm?
The cheapest public chargers are about 30p kWh with a lot of the Tesla chargers being around the 40p/kWh for other makes.I worked out this morning that at 25p per KWH for home charging it is essentially 8p per mile. My petrol car at 40MPG costs the equivalent of 15 pence per mile.
In future there is definitely going to be a social wealth divide between those that have a drive and can charge from home and those that don't and have to public charge. I actually wonder if house values of terraced houses and flats without off street parking will fall as EV cars become the norm?
Otherwise I find most of them are between 70p and 90p.
Remember at home there are tariffs that allow 7p to 9p per kWh overnight.
LostAndNotFound said:
ThingsBehindTheSun said:
How much did that cost per KWH? Doing some quick calculation it seems that if you have to use public chargers then it is going to cost more to run that a petrol car?
I worked out this morning that at 25p per KWH for home charging it is essentially 8p per mile. My petrol car at 40MPG costs the equivalent of 15 pence per mile.
In future there is definitely going to be a social wealth divide between those that have a drive and can charge from home and those that don't and have to public charge. I actually wonder if house values of terraced houses and flats without off street parking will fall as EV cars become the norm?
The cheapest public chargers are about 30p kWh with a lot of the Tesla chargers being around the 40p/kWh for other makes.I worked out this morning that at 25p per KWH for home charging it is essentially 8p per mile. My petrol car at 40MPG costs the equivalent of 15 pence per mile.
In future there is definitely going to be a social wealth divide between those that have a drive and can charge from home and those that don't and have to public charge. I actually wonder if house values of terraced houses and flats without off street parking will fall as EV cars become the norm?
Otherwise I find most of them are between 70p and 90p.
Remember at home there are tariffs that allow 7p to 9p per kWh overnight.
Edited by Zoon on Monday 15th September 15:01
Can anyone advise if the Puma deal is still going or have i missed the boat?
I've contacted Hartwell but understandably they are probably wading through many many enquiries. I've also asked my local Ford dealers about it and they can't match it (and have no idea how anyone is able to do it!) Apparently no new Pumas left in the country now at all, quoting 6 month + delivery times now (according to my locals)
I've contacted Hartwell but understandably they are probably wading through many many enquiries. I've also asked my local Ford dealers about it and they can't match it (and have no idea how anyone is able to do it!) Apparently no new Pumas left in the country now at all, quoting 6 month + delivery times now (according to my locals)
ThingsBehindTheSun said:
How much did that cost per KWH? Doing some quick calculation it seems that if you have to use public chargers then it is going to cost more to run that a petrol car?
I worked out this morning that at 25p per KWH for home charging it is essentially 8p per mile. My petrol car at 40MPG costs the equivalent of 15 pence per mile.
In future there is definitely going to be a social wealth divide between those that have a drive and can charge from home and those that don't and have to public charge. I actually wonder if house values of terraced houses and flats without off street parking will fall as EV cars become the norm?
That was at instavolt Winchester super hub which is 50p per KW at the moment I worked out this morning that at 25p per KWH for home charging it is essentially 8p per mile. My petrol car at 40MPG costs the equivalent of 15 pence per mile.
In future there is definitely going to be a social wealth divide between those that have a drive and can charge from home and those that don't and have to public charge. I actually wonder if house values of terraced houses and flats without off street parking will fall as EV cars become the norm?
The full charge on octopus overnight at my parents should cost buttons once per week , until my house purchase completes i will have to pay a bit more. That said my old car a 520d had a £300pm loan, £50 tax and £120 monthly fuel cost. This will probably cost £300-350 all in. Less once I move. Plus I have a warranty now etc.
I got 100 miles in about 20 minutes at the fast charger for £17 at 50p per KW. There's one down the road from my flat which is 66p after 7pm on electroverse which will be good for top ups when I haven't prepared.
Bagged a Polestar 4, single motor with Plus, Prime and Pilot packs and due delivery in a couple of weeks - 36 months at £346 and with a 12 month deposit - via Carparison. Our Lexus 350h which was okay (quite a few electrical gremlins and door handle issues, along with potential theft situation) is going back early as I didn't want to miss out on this deal. Issue is that we are hoping to move house soon so going without a charger for a while which should be interesting! Resigning myself to sitting in a car park once a week for an hour or so to get it charged up.
On that point, appreciating there may be a thread or better information somewhere but is it possible to go to any electric vehicle charger, plug in and just pay with card? There are so many apps, providers etc that I can't find a direct answer. I'm sure a correct LMGTFY will work but I can't seem to find the most clear answer.
On that point, appreciating there may be a thread or better information somewhere but is it possible to go to any electric vehicle charger, plug in and just pay with card? There are so many apps, providers etc that I can't find a direct answer. I'm sure a correct LMGTFY will work but I can't seem to find the most clear answer.
DizzyN said:
Bagged a Polestar 4, single motor with Plus, Prime and Pilot packs and due delivery in a couple of weeks - 36 months at £346 and with a 12 month deposit - via Carparison. Our Lexus 350h which was okay (quite a few electrical gremlins and door handle issues, along with potential theft situation) is going back early as I didn't want to miss out on this deal. Issue is that we are hoping to move house soon so going without a charger for a while which should be interesting! Resigning myself to sitting in a car park once a week for an hour or so to get it charged up.
On that point, appreciating there may be a thread or better information somewhere but is it possible to go to any electric vehicle charger, plug in and just pay with card? There are so many apps, providers etc that I can't find a direct answer. I'm sure a correct LMGTFY will work but I can't seem to find the most clear answer.
What made you go for a single motor when the dual motor is only an extra £20 or so a month more?On that point, appreciating there may be a thread or better information somewhere but is it possible to go to any electric vehicle charger, plug in and just pay with card? There are so many apps, providers etc that I can't find a direct answer. I'm sure a correct LMGTFY will work but I can't seem to find the most clear answer.
DizzyN said:
On that point, appreciating there may be a thread or better information somewhere but is it possible to go to any electric vehicle charger, plug in and just pay with card? There are so many apps, providers etc that I can't find a direct answer. I'm sure a correct LMGTFY will work but I can't seem to find the most clear answer.
It depends on the charger.There are two main types of public charger - AC "fast" chargers (which range from 7kW, up to 22 kW), and DC "rapid" chargers, which are usually 50kW+, ranging up to 350kW or more - obviously the bigger the number, the faster you can charge, up to the limit of what your car will accept.
The majority of rapid chargers offer contactless payment - you swipe your credit/debit card and it will pre-authorise, then debit your account at the end of the charging session. This is less common on fast chargers, but contactless is sometimes available on them.
Most chargers of both types also have an app you can download, sometimes offering preferential payment rates. This can be very frustrating, because as you said, there are a lot of different companies out there with their own charging network, and therefore their own app. Frankly it's a faff. There are some apps that consolidate different charging networks, often provided by car manufacturers who sometimes offer pre-loaded credit for use at certain charging networks.
On the rare occasion I use public chargers, I typically use the app if I already have it installed, or use contactless. I only download new apps as a last resort. I've never used the manufacturer's own charging apps.
Greg2904 said:
DizzyN said:
Bagged a Polestar 4, single motor with Plus, Prime and Pilot packs and due delivery in a couple of weeks - 36 months at £346 and with a 12 month deposit - via Carparison. Our Lexus 350h which was okay (quite a few electrical gremlins and door handle issues, along with potential theft situation) is going back early as I didn't want to miss out on this deal. Issue is that we are hoping to move house soon so going without a charger for a while which should be interesting! Resigning myself to sitting in a car park once a week for an hour or so to get it charged up.
On that point, appreciating there may be a thread or better information somewhere but is it possible to go to any electric vehicle charger, plug in and just pay with card? There are so many apps, providers etc that I can't find a direct answer. I'm sure a correct LMGTFY will work but I can't seem to find the most clear answer.
What made you go for a single motor when the dual motor is only an extra £20 or so a month more?On that point, appreciating there may be a thread or better information somewhere but is it possible to go to any electric vehicle charger, plug in and just pay with card? There are so many apps, providers etc that I can't find a direct answer. I'm sure a correct LMGTFY will work but I can't seem to find the most clear answer.
DizzyN said:
Bagged a Polestar 4, single motor with Plus, Prime and Pilot packs and due delivery in a couple of weeks - 36 months at £346 and with a 12 month deposit - via Carparison. Our Lexus 350h which was okay (quite a few electrical gremlins and door handle issues, along with potential theft situation) is going back early as I didn't want to miss out on this deal. Issue is that we are hoping to move house soon so going without a charger for a while which should be interesting! Resigning myself to sitting in a car park once a week for an hour or so to get it charged up.
On that point, appreciating there may be a thread or better information somewhere but is it possible to go to any electric vehicle charger, plug in and just pay with card? There are so many apps, providers etc that I can't find a direct answer. I'm sure a correct LMGTFY will work but I can't seem to find the most clear answer.
Almost all rapids will let you pay by card. The only apps I'm signed up to is Octopus Electroverse and Tesla. Octopus gives you access to pretty much every network and sometimes a few % off the public rate.On that point, appreciating there may be a thread or better information somewhere but is it possible to go to any electric vehicle charger, plug in and just pay with card? There are so many apps, providers etc that I can't find a direct answer. I'm sure a correct LMGTFY will work but I can't seem to find the most clear answer.
Ry.Clarke said:
Dual motor is so unnecessary
Pretty much it. If it was just for me, I'd actually have gone for the Hyundai offer but insurance costs, coupled with the fact we don't actually need the dual motor, went for the single motor. Plus, the plan is to try and get a weekend toy at some point (nothing expensive, just something fun) to ease the pain. Insurance in London is also a concern, especially as it's increasing year on year.codenamecueball said:
Almost all rapids will let you pay by card. The only apps I'm signed up to is Octopus Electroverse and Tesla. Octopus gives you access to pretty much every network and sometimes a few % off the public rate.
This is great, thank you very much! I'm not massively concerned by paying over the odds for 3-6 months if needs be, so this is exactly what I wanted to hear. Many thanks.DizzyN said:
On that point, appreciating there may be a thread or better information somewhere but is it possible to go to any electric vehicle charger, plug in and just pay with card? There are so many apps, providers etc that I can't find a direct answer. I'm sure a correct LMGTFY will work but I can't seem to find the most clear answer.
I have the electroverse app (as an Octopus customer) and there are times when they offer a reduced rate. Don't count on it on a regular basis.https://electroverse.com/
It's not gonna be cheap to use the public network!!
Cupid-stunt said:
I have the electroverse app (as an Octopus customer) and there are times when they offer a reduced rate. Don't count on it on a regular basis.
https://electroverse.com/
It's not gonna be cheap to use the public network!!
In my (admittedly limited) experience, not all chargers are in Electroverse. However, if regular public charging, a monthly Ionity/Tesla subscription will give substantial rate savings. https://electroverse.com/
It's not gonna be cheap to use the public network!!
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