Best smoker barges 1-5 large [Vol 22]
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CHLEMCBC said:
W00DY said:
That's so minty fresh. Stuff new cars, get that properly protected from the elements and put it to work.
Wonder what it's worth.
Prime candidate for that lanolin underbody spray gubbins...I've only seen it on instagram, is it any good?Wonder what it's worth.
E90_M3Ross said:
CHLEMCBC said:
W00DY said:
That's so minty fresh. Stuff new cars, get that properly protected from the elements and put it to work.
Wonder what it's worth.
Prime candidate for that lanolin underbody spray gubbins...I've only seen it on instagram, is it any good?Wonder what it's worth.
TBH I think the most important factor is the preparation. Slather the best rust treatment in the world over salty rusty metal and it's not going to work as well as anything applied properly to steam-cleaned good metal with a modicum of disassembly to get it where it needs to be.
Found the article:
https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...
Edited by donkmeister on Wednesday 10th December 16:48
dscam said:
Over budget but as said several times, almost impossible to get more modern pound per prestige BHP:
https://ebay.us/m/WY2sCp
I picked this up recently for similar amount.https://ebay.us/m/WY2sCp
Seems like tremendous value albeit I’m probably going to get the timing chains done anyway.
Admittedly i’m not a fan of black on black on black with extra black. But beggars cant be choosers…
And I think it (possibly) suits the sinister nature of the car
tobinen said:
Congratulations FH. Those wheels are just a refurb away from a decent colour 
Thanks, the wheels would certainly look better in silver and ideally would be the first thing to do.But my initial concern is timing chain/tensioner replacement as it hasn t been done and this is probably the main reason keeping values low. Its a £4-5k job.
Fortunately its had a £3k supercharger re-build already, water pump replaced (but coolant Y pipe needs doing).
The car has spent most of its life in the South East and fortunately no mention of corrosion on the MOT history (a quick look under suggests its not as bad as many others.
I m under no disillusion that this could end up being a moneypit especially as i m not handy with tools, but having come out of a C63 earlier in the year, this is a fraction of the value with similar performance.
Not had a chance to extend its legs but the engine sounds and feels monumental even compared to the 4.0 tt C63
Some more pics
Fat hippo said:
tobinen said:
Congratulations FH. Those wheels are just a refurb away from a decent colour
Thanks, the wheels would certainly look better in silver and ideally would be the first thing to do.But my initial concern is timing chain/tensioner replacement as it hasn t been done and this is probably the main reason keeping values low. Its a £4-5k job.
Fortunately its had a £3k supercharger re-build already, water pump replaced (but coolant Y pipe needs doing).
The car has spent most of its life in the South East and fortunately no mention of corrosion on the MOT history (a quick look under suggests its not as bad as many others.
I m under no disillusion that this could end up being a moneypit especially as i m not handy with tools, but having come out of a C63 earlier in the year, this is a fraction of the value with similar performance.
Not had a chance to extend its legs but the engine sounds and feels monumental even compared to the 4.0 tt C63
Some more pics
I d not worry about chains. 6k oil changes and drive it.
I m sure it happens, but in my experience timing chains give plenty of warning before letting go. First cold start rattle take it to get it done, but it may well never happen.
The early cars had aluminium crossover pipes, check for that before worrying about changing them.
FYI many of them have a deep bottom end sounding knock sound on hot restarts that sounds awful. It’s the high pressure fuel system and will go with a few revs and passes quickly. Think it scares a lot of people, it sounds AWFUL.
I m sure it happens, but in my experience timing chains give plenty of warning before letting go. First cold start rattle take it to get it done, but it may well never happen.
The early cars had aluminium crossover pipes, check for that before worrying about changing them.
FYI many of them have a deep bottom end sounding knock sound on hot restarts that sounds awful. It’s the high pressure fuel system and will go with a few revs and passes quickly. Think it scares a lot of people, it sounds AWFUL.
Edited by GeniusOfLove on Thursday 11th December 15:48
Congratulations on the XFR! Here's a lesser spotted Lancia, looks tidy https://www.carandclassic.com/l/C1986424
Just to prove that there are barges that fall within the budget constraints of the thread, here is an entirely brilliant E65 for £2000. Granted, it drinks from the devil's pump, but it is an insane amount of car for very little outlay.
It's over on the Beige car forum which ends up being redacted every time you type its name. 6 months MOT.
It's over on the Beige car forum which ends up being redacted every time you type its name. 6 months MOT.
GeniusOfLove said:
I d not worry about chains. 6k oil changes and drive it.
I m sure it happens, but in my experience timing chains give plenty of warning before letting go. First cold start rattle take it to get it done, but it may well never happen.
The early cars had aluminium crossover pipes, check for that before worrying about changing them.
FYI many of them have a deep bottom end sounding knock sound on hot restarts that sounds awful. It s the high pressure fuel system and will go with a few revs and passes quickly. Think it scares a lot of people, it sounds AWFUL.
Great advice and agree on all counts. The fuel system sound is absolutely dreadful! It's probably something they could have fitted a small accumulator to stop, but couldn't afford.I m sure it happens, but in my experience timing chains give plenty of warning before letting go. First cold start rattle take it to get it done, but it may well never happen.
The early cars had aluminium crossover pipes, check for that before worrying about changing them.
FYI many of them have a deep bottom end sounding knock sound on hot restarts that sounds awful. It s the high pressure fuel system and will go with a few revs and passes quickly. Think it scares a lot of people, it sounds AWFUL.
Patrick Bateman said:
Surely you can the chain sorted for a chunk less than 4 or 5 large?
Parts are reasonable but it's a lot of work getting it done. At £75 an hour or whatever they charge these days it's a big one.Krikkit said:
GeniusOfLove said:
I d not worry about chains. 6k oil changes and drive it.
I m sure it happens, but in my experience timing chains give plenty of warning before letting go. First cold start rattle take it to get it done, but it may well never happen.
The early cars had aluminium crossover pipes, check for that before worrying about changing them.
FYI many of them have a deep bottom end sounding knock sound on hot restarts that sounds awful. It s the high pressure fuel system and will go with a few revs and passes quickly. Think it scares a lot of people, it sounds AWFUL.
Great advice and agree on all counts. The fuel system sound is absolutely dreadful! It's probably something they could have fitted a small accumulator to stop, but couldn't afford.I m sure it happens, but in my experience timing chains give plenty of warning before letting go. First cold start rattle take it to get it done, but it may well never happen.
The early cars had aluminium crossover pipes, check for that before worrying about changing them.
FYI many of them have a deep bottom end sounding knock sound on hot restarts that sounds awful. It s the high pressure fuel system and will go with a few revs and passes quickly. Think it scares a lot of people, it sounds AWFUL.
Patrick Bateman said:
Surely you can the chain sorted for a chunk less than 4 or 5 large?
Parts are reasonable but it's a lot of work getting it done. At £75 an hour or whatever they charge these days it's a big one.
Isn't it something like over a day's labour for most garages? TDC made a challenge to an indy to see if they could fix it in 24 hours and they only just did it, and that was an indy that had done it numerous times.... So book may be as much as 30 hours...?? Many decent indys these days are £100/hr+!
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