Best smoker barges 1-5 large [Vol 22]
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Hippea said:
Not too sure why, but I've always really liked the looks of these and a Chrysler V8 would be the engine of choice.It's probably just as well I have absolutely no need of a car like that!
MightyBadger said:
W00DY said:
Lovely, what a beauty. Manual and purple, rare.
They were always manual, later cars being 6-speed.
The spoiler, erm, spoils it in that state. Definitely exposed to extreme heat or had something heavy resting on it. That plus some other tired looking bits make me think £35k seems toppy but maybe biased since I sold mine for a sixth of that back in 2011…
This one does seem to have decent maintenance but rust hiding under the bodykit is the real nemesis of these now.
dscam said:
Nice car and almost identical to my old one, also on K reg.
They were always manual, later cars being 6-speed.
The spoiler, erm, spoils it in that state. Definitely exposed to extreme heat or had something heavy resting on it. That plus some other tired looking bits make me think £35k seems toppy but maybe biased since I sold mine for a sixth of that back in 2011
This one does seem to have decent maintenance but rust hiding under the bodykit is the real nemesis of these now.
I didn't know that about all being manuals, nice.They were always manual, later cars being 6-speed.
The spoiler, erm, spoils it in that state. Definitely exposed to extreme heat or had something heavy resting on it. That plus some other tired looking bits make me think £35k seems toppy but maybe biased since I sold mine for a sixth of that back in 2011
This one does seem to have decent maintenance but rust hiding under the bodykit is the real nemesis of these now.
dscam said:
MightyBadger said:
W00DY said:
Lovely, what a beauty. Manual and purple, rare.They were always manual, later cars being 6-speed.
The spoiler, erm, spoils it in that state. Definitely exposed to extreme heat or had something heavy resting on it. That plus some other tired looking bits make me think £35k seems toppy but maybe biased since I sold mine for a sixth of that back in 2011
This one does seem to have decent maintenance but rust hiding under the bodykit is the real nemesis of these now.
Re: the spoiler, it does detract from it a bit. Likely just lots of careless boot closing over the years though - ie using the spoiler to close the boot. I remember my Dad being warned about this back in the day with his E36 328 sport.
QBee said:
deadtom said:
anotherswifty said:
Ermm, interesting is about as far as I d go with that. Good spot tho. Rubbish handling I believe
I may be due a QI klaxon, but I thought these were based on the then previous gen E Class chassis (so I guess the W210?), so wouldn't that mean they handle like an E class?Or is that why they handle badly?
disclaimer: I have never driven a W210
My previous car was a Saab 9-5 with stiffer dampers, and it went round corners like it was on rails.
Whereas the Mercedes was an extreme case of turn in and hold your breath.
It wallowed its way around the corners and your exit point was pure speculation.
Reminded me of a canal barge, so well suited for this thread.
Cracking old bus, absolute hoot. StefanYHU said:
Ive have to keep reminding myself over and over, that only two cars have ever broken down on me in dangerous situations, one of which being on the outside lane of a motorway where the car quite simply decided to switch itself of after driving faultlessly - they were both range rovers.
My last one, the worst thing about it was nobody wanted to f
king look at it when it needed fixed.
I left my l322 into a local mechanic to replace the alternator a few months back.My last one, the worst thing about it was nobody wanted to f
king look at it when it needed fixed. When I was collecting it a few days later he told me he never wants to see it back through the workshop again. :-)
New alternator works well though.
Hippea said:
Should these have massive AP front brakes and then Brembo rears?
Paddymcc said:
I left my l322 into a local mechanic to replace the alternator a few months back.
When I was collecting it a few days later he told me he never wants to see it back through the workshop again. :-)
New alternator works well though.
Think himself lucky he didn't have to replace 'that' seal on the alternator of a 745i.When I was collecting it a few days later he told me he never wants to see it back through the workshop again. :-)
New alternator works well though.
Rayny said:
Another Friday offering - Not quite as comfortable as a Range Rover, but it is older than most of you:
https://www.country-classic-cars.co.uk/listings/19...
Arrrgh - it's 4 months younger than me. And looks it.https://www.country-classic-cars.co.uk/listings/19...
Interesting that a 1953 1997 cc Land Rover is thirstier than 2011 4.4 litre Range Rover
Paddymcc said:
StefanYHU said:
Ive have to keep reminding myself over and over, that only two cars have ever broken down on me in dangerous situations, one of which being on the outside lane of a motorway where the car quite simply decided to switch itself of after driving faultlessly - they were both range rovers.
My last one, the worst thing about it was nobody wanted to fking look at it when it needed fixed.
I left my l322 into a local mechanic to replace the alternator a few months back.My last one, the worst thing about it was nobody wanted to f
king look at it when it needed fixed. When I was collecting it a few days later he told me he never wants to see it back through the workshop again. :-)
New alternator works well though.
ATM said:
Hippea said:
Should these have massive AP front brakes and then Brembo rears?QBee said:
I have.
My previous car was a Saab 9-5 with stiffer dampers, and it went round corners like it was on rails.
Whereas the Mercedes was an extreme case of turn in and hold your breath.
It wallowed its way around the corners and your exit point was pure speculation.
Reminded me of a canal barge, so well suited for this thread.
Interesting how different people perceive things differently. I used to drive Saab and Volvo pretty much exclusively, 'my car' was always one or t'other while lots of others came and went. My 9-5 Aero was standard I grant you, but I found it wooden, uncommunicative and dissapointing. I'd had a few dozen C900, 99 and V4 models and the 95 Aero was a dream for me, yet it felt like a real let down. My 9-3 V6 Aero Convertible however handled very well, much better I felt than many of the reviews suggested. It had a passive 4ws system from memory and it felt properly planted and quick. My previous car was a Saab 9-5 with stiffer dampers, and it went round corners like it was on rails.
Whereas the Mercedes was an extreme case of turn in and hold your breath.
It wallowed its way around the corners and your exit point was pure speculation.
Reminded me of a canal barge, so well suited for this thread.
I've not owned a Saab for 6 or 7 years now, really must jump back in next time I need a car...
biggbn said:
QBee said:
I have.
My previous car was a Saab 9-5 with stiffer dampers, and it went round corners like it was on rails.
Whereas the Mercedes was an extreme case of turn in and hold your breath.
It wallowed its way around the corners and your exit point was pure speculation.
Reminded me of a canal barge, so well suited for this thread.
Interesting how different people perceive things differently. I used to drive Saab and Volvo pretty much exclusively, 'my car' was always one or t'other while lots of others came and went. My 9-5 Aero was standard I grant you, but I found it wooden, uncommunicative and dissapointing. I'd had a few dozen C900, 99 and V4 models and the 95 Aero was a dream for me, yet it felt like a real let down. My 9-3 V6 Aero Convertible however handled very well, much better I felt than many of the reviews suggested. It had a passive 4ws system from memory and it felt properly planted and quick. My previous car was a Saab 9-5 with stiffer dampers, and it went round corners like it was on rails.
Whereas the Mercedes was an extreme case of turn in and hold your breath.
It wallowed its way around the corners and your exit point was pure speculation.
Reminded me of a canal barge, so well suited for this thread.
I've not owned a Saab for 6 or 7 years now, really must jump back in next time I need a car...
Some years later I bought an Aero version of the same model on standard suspension, but 8 years newer. Hated the car and was glad when the gearbox broke and I could scrap it. Didn’t corner at all well. I suspect Saabs went steadily downhill from about 2000 onwards.
QBee said:
biggbn said:
QBee said:
I have.
My previous car was a Saab 9-5 with stiffer dampers, and it went round corners like it was on rails.
Whereas the Mercedes was an extreme case of turn in and hold your breath.
It wallowed its way around the corners and your exit point was pure speculation.
Reminded me of a canal barge, so well suited for this thread.
Interesting how different people perceive things differently. I used to drive Saab and Volvo pretty much exclusively, 'my car' was always one or t'other while lots of others came and went. My 9-5 Aero was standard I grant you, but I found it wooden, uncommunicative and dissapointing. I'd had a few dozen C900, 99 and V4 models and the 95 Aero was a dream for me, yet it felt like a real let down. My 9-3 V6 Aero Convertible however handled very well, much better I felt than many of the reviews suggested. It had a passive 4ws system from memory and it felt properly planted and quick. My previous car was a Saab 9-5 with stiffer dampers, and it went round corners like it was on rails.
Whereas the Mercedes was an extreme case of turn in and hold your breath.
It wallowed its way around the corners and your exit point was pure speculation.
Reminded me of a canal barge, so well suited for this thread.
I've not owned a Saab for 6 or 7 years now, really must jump back in next time I need a car...
Some years later I bought an Aero version of the same model on standard suspension, but 8 years newer. Hated the car and was glad when the gearbox broke and I could scrap it. Didn t corner at all well. I suspect Saabs went steadily downhill from about 2000 onwards.
Perhaps more controversially, I did not like the 9000 either. It felt like the start of the decontenting of Saab for me. The old 900s could only be a Saab, the 9000 felt like it could be anything. I do have a hankering for (the worst?) Saab, a gm900 but in three door V6 manual form. It's a unicorn Saab for me, I just love the shape and had that engine in numerous Vauxhalls and found it lovely.
Nowadays my 'dream' Saabs are very leftfield. I'd love a Saaburu, the Saab badged Impreza, or one of the big Saab SUV you only got in America. Oddball barge for sure!!
Re chocolate suspension...the Aero felt like it had wooden suspension!!!
Thanks for the memories man, peace and love, gbn x
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