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bolidemichael said:
TVR Sagaris said:
This seems to be a very sensibly priced CLS500, although is it riding too high? MOT history is pretty good.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/178032272610
I reckon it has been fitted with oversized alloys which'll
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/178032272610
inevitably be an incorrect offset and/or width,
hence the awkward stance.
macron said:
bolidemichael said:
In my case, I did this with the CL600 which was sub £10k and I immediately toured the British Isles on a >2k road trip. It's across Europe, isn't it?
BM doesn't need to be told to road trip! BM is the Chuck Norris of road trippers!

MightyBadger said:
AlexNJ89 said:
You're tasked with delivering a package 2,000 miles across Europe. It needs to be delivered asap so it's a lot of hours behind the wheel.
The package is about the size of a guitar case.
You have £10,000 to spend on a car to carry out the task.
Your petrol can be claimed back from the company so MPG is not an issue.
Which car do you take?
Pocket the 10k and go in my daily.The package is about the size of a guitar case.
You have £10,000 to spend on a car to carry out the task.
Your petrol can be claimed back from the company so MPG is not an issue.
Which car do you take?
L405s seem out of reach still.
Edited by anotherswifty on Tuesday 21st April 08:40
ETA or you get the fella with the heavily fettled 996 who does motorsports deliveries, to do it and pocket the change / buy something fun.
Edited by anotherswifty on Tuesday 21st April 09:01
Rayny said:
macron said:
bolidemichael said:
In my case, I did this with the CL600 which was sub £10k and I immediately toured the British Isles on a >2k road trip. It's across Europe, isn't it?
BM doesn't need to be told to road trip! BM is the Chuck Norris of road trippers!

That A8 W12, for some reason makes me think "why didn't Lexus do a 12-cylinder?". Mercedes, BMW, Jaguar, Audi, they've all had them but Lexus never have.
Maybe the V12 in the Century was a bit too old fashioned or low on power, but surely they could have update it, strapped a couple of turbos to it and made a "proper" LS600 instead of the V8 hybrid one. Oh well, it won't happen now.
Maybe the V12 in the Century was a bit too old fashioned or low on power, but surely they could have update it, strapped a couple of turbos to it and made a "proper" LS600 instead of the V8 hybrid one. Oh well, it won't happen now.
From a business point of view the question is probably why the German brands kept developing 12 cylinder engines in the 2000s? Surely that can't have been very profitable and was mostly a prestige project amongst the trio of Audi, BMW and Mercedes. I guess there was some use for the luxury market with Bentley and Rolls-Royce.
Anyway, have a pile of beige from when Jaguar had already given up on V12s for 3.5k: https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202604171...

Anyway, have a pile of beige from when Jaguar had already given up on V12s for 3.5k: https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202604171...

bolidemichael said:
Rayny said:
macron said:
bolidemichael said:
In my case, I did this with the CL600 which was sub £10k and I immediately toured the British Isles on a >2k road trip. It's across Europe, isn't it?
BM doesn't need to be told to road trip! BM is the Chuck Norris of road trippers!

W00DY said:
Rightly or wrongly, I just could not stop staring at this. So much so, that I have put down a deposit and travelling the length of the country to pick up Friday...wish me luck!TVR Sagaris said:
maxwellwd said:
Rightly or wrongly, I just could not stop staring at this. So much so, that I have put down a deposit and travelling the length of the country to pick up Friday...wish me luck!
Amazing. I thought it looked a great spec. Take a good look around the front of the engine for signs of weep from the water pump - it's not a hard or expensive job but it could be a negotiating point. Look around generally for signs of ropey looking hoses etc, be very careful around the hard line because if they're original they may break if you put any pressure on them. Also listen for marbles in a jar at idle that signify the supercharger coupler needs love.
Can't help with L405 specific things, but that engine is pretty robust although they sound awful with the bonnet up and SUPER awful on a hot restart until you drive off.
maxwellwd said:
W00DY said:
Rightly or wrongly, I just could not stop staring at this. So much so, that I have put down a deposit and travelling the length of the country to pick up Friday...wish me luck!maxwellwd said:
W00DY said:
Rightly or wrongly, I just could not stop staring at this. So much so, that I have put down a deposit and travelling the length of the country to pick up Friday...wish me luck!Den Den said:
bolidemichael said:
TVR Sagaris said:
This seems to be a very sensibly priced CLS500, although is it riding too high? MOT history is pretty good.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/178032272610
I reckon it has been fitted with oversized alloys which'll
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/178032272610
inevitably be an incorrect offset and/or width,
hence the awkward stance.
Rayny said:
bolidemichael said:
Rayny said:
macron said:
bolidemichael said:
In my case, I did this with the CL600 which was sub £10k and I immediately toured the British Isles on a >2k road trip. It's across Europe, isn't it?
BM doesn't need to be told to road trip! BM is the Chuck Norris of road trippers!

GeniusOfLove said:
TVR Sagaris said:
maxwellwd said:
Rightly or wrongly, I just could not stop staring at this. So much so, that I have put down a deposit and travelling the length of the country to pick up Friday...wish me luck!
Amazing. I thought it looked a great spec. Take a good look around the front of the engine for signs of weep from the water pump - it's not a hard or expensive job but it could be a negotiating point. Look around generally for signs of ropey looking hoses etc, be very careful around the hard line because if they're original they may break if you put any pressure on them. Also listen for marbles in a jar at idle that signify the supercharger coupler needs love.
Can't help with L405 specific things, but that engine is pretty robust although they sound awful with the bonnet up and SUPER awful on a hot restart until you drive off.
Test absolutely every piece of electrical gear, front and rear. Make sure the heated and cooled seats blow their respective temperatures. Heated wheel works.
Infotainment is quite slow but very usable. Sat-nav is fairly capable but the maps are out of date at ~2019-ish iirc.
Check the towbar deploys without complaint, they often seize up from not being used.
Put it in full height mode and have a look at the heat shields over the fuel tanks to see if they're starting to rot, not a huge job but something you don't want trying to escape at the wrong moment.
And congrats, nice car.
maxwellwd said:
Rightly or wrongly, I just could not stop staring at this. So much so, that I have put down a deposit and travelling the length of the country to pick up Friday...wish me luck!
congratulations. !t still looks a million dollars to me. I expect it will feel very special.The heated/cooled seats use a thermoelectric device and forced air circulation and make all other heated/cooled seats look feeble.
What happened in the early versions of this amerigon/gentherm system is that the pipe from the blower to the cooling/heating element would fracture so air wouldn't pass over the element and it would overheat and shut down. You can bodge up the pipe with tape but sometimes the elements burn out from overheating before you get there.
What happened in the early versions of this amerigon/gentherm system is that the pipe from the blower to the cooling/heating element would fracture so air wouldn't pass over the element and it would overheat and shut down. You can bodge up the pipe with tape but sometimes the elements burn out from overheating before you get there.
W00DY said:
maxwellwd said:
Rightly or wrongly, I just could not stop staring at this. So much so, that I have put down a deposit and travelling the length of the country to pick up Friday...wish me luck!
congratulations. !t still looks a million dollars to me. I expect it will feel very special.Thank you for the comments folks! So the guy seemed really nice and lavished a lot of love on it. He spent a long time all accounts to find the best example he could.
He mentioned already to me that fuel tank straps have been replaced, it has had a new transfer case fitted when he had a poke about underneath which is very clean by all accounts, 4 new decent tyres (expensive on these) and an oem apple carplay unit fitted which works with everything on the steering wheel. I was looking at getting one of these fitted so that is a big bonus. Also just had it serviced.
He needs to free up some money to buy his first house with his partner, seems not that happy about that.
So, train to Braintree from Dundee on Friday, stay overnight Friday then pickup Saturday morning! A great run back to test it in all its glory.
Much man maths was employed here. My wife agreed, but we had to get rid of one of our cars, so that meant selling our Mini Cooper F56 to my step-daughter for a reduced price to replace her trusty Fiat 500. Everyone wins..right?
Also, I had an L322 3.6 TDV8, the turbos went on that and it just wasn't worth repairing. I know how great these cars are 'when' they work. But so so many issues with even the later diesels, such as soot contamination, DPF, EGR et al. Bearing in mind these can be economical'sih on a run and the fact that petrol is quite a lot cheaper than diesel now and up in Scotland it is full of LEZ zones. This fits the bill perfectly. And come on, that engine!
Just need to find a good specialist up here, there seem to be quite a few in Angus as this would be a keeper and may look at getting the chains done within the next couple of years for preventative maintenance. But jeeez, that brown leather eh!
ETA - this car would have cost an absolute bomb when new and I can't really believe how much these have dropped the last couple of years as have always kept an eye on L405 values
He mentioned already to me that fuel tank straps have been replaced, it has had a new transfer case fitted when he had a poke about underneath which is very clean by all accounts, 4 new decent tyres (expensive on these) and an oem apple carplay unit fitted which works with everything on the steering wheel. I was looking at getting one of these fitted so that is a big bonus. Also just had it serviced.
He needs to free up some money to buy his first house with his partner, seems not that happy about that.
So, train to Braintree from Dundee on Friday, stay overnight Friday then pickup Saturday morning! A great run back to test it in all its glory.
Much man maths was employed here. My wife agreed, but we had to get rid of one of our cars, so that meant selling our Mini Cooper F56 to my step-daughter for a reduced price to replace her trusty Fiat 500. Everyone wins..right?
Also, I had an L322 3.6 TDV8, the turbos went on that and it just wasn't worth repairing. I know how great these cars are 'when' they work. But so so many issues with even the later diesels, such as soot contamination, DPF, EGR et al. Bearing in mind these can be economical'sih on a run and the fact that petrol is quite a lot cheaper than diesel now and up in Scotland it is full of LEZ zones. This fits the bill perfectly. And come on, that engine!
Just need to find a good specialist up here, there seem to be quite a few in Angus as this would be a keeper and may look at getting the chains done within the next couple of years for preventative maintenance. But jeeez, that brown leather eh!
ETA - this car would have cost an absolute bomb when new and I can't really believe how much these have dropped the last couple of years as have always kept an eye on L405 values
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