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Saw that purple throbber go through BCA a couple of weeks ago, I was very tempted because of the colours. Think it went for £10.5k which is more or less what I paid for mine on the same mileage three years ago.
£20k is… a lot. In fact it’s what the guy before me paid for mine from QCT four years ago.
£20k is… a lot. In fact it’s what the guy before me paid for mine from QCT four years ago.
PrinceRupert said:
Yeah with the fact I'll do a couple of thousand miles a year as the "sensible daily" in it the only question is will depreciation or lack thereof offset all the other costs - 790 tax, 1500 insurance (yikes), fuel, maintenance...also, how much of a nuisance will it be to park a LWB XJ when running round the corner for the dry cleaning...
My advice? Don't. You don't buy a big V8 because you are looking for great fuel economy, but seeing those single figure tank averages when you (or in my case, the missus) have been using it exclusively for short local trips with a cold engine, well that is an encouragement to consider if Shanks' pony would be a better conveyance for those journeys. I still do short journeys, but I am more mindful of considering walking or cycling.
However, as you have correctly identified you are a bit more limited with parallel parking spaces simply because someone can drive a smaller car out of a space that turns out to be slightly shorter than your car. Plus you hang out of almost every car park space you encounter.
The other thing about big powerful cars is that whilst they are fast, you tend to drive them round built-up areas barely tickling the throttle. As they're running barely above tickover they just don't engine-brake like a small car (or an EV), and giving it a noisy bootful between crossings up the high street just makes you feel like a prick. So you tend to be one of the slowest cars on the road in built up areas. Quite fun when the person whose been driving up your backside all through town looking angry, rapidly disappears when you reach the derestricter, mind.
GeniusOfLove said:
Saw that purple throbber go through BCA a couple of weeks ago, I was very tempted because of the colours. Think it went for £10.5k which is more or less what I paid for mine on the same mileage three years ago.
£20k is a lot. In fact it s what the guy before me paid for mine from QCT four years ago.
There was me thinking "a dealer in Virginia Water... clearly that's some London professional's cossetted car, traded in against something equally fabulous". I never considered it might be an auction car!£20k is a lot. In fact it s what the guy before me paid for mine from QCT four years ago.
Still, just because something goes through BCA doesn't mean it's crap. Horror stories abound, of Copart sending the truck to collect a pranged pride-and-joy "for assessment" only for it to go through auction. Also I know a chap who bought a car at BCA that had zero damage, the only issue was that it came with a decent quantity of fingerprint powder.
Was there any damage on it when you saw it? Could this be a "fix it then sell it" job?
donkmeister said:
My advice? Don't.
You don't buy a big V8 because you are looking for great fuel economy, but seeing those single figure tank averages when you (or in my case, the missus) have been using it exclusively for short local trips with a cold engine, well that is an encouragement to consider if Shanks' pony would be a better conveyance for those journeys. I still do short journeys, but I am more mindful of considering walking or cycling.
However, as you have correctly identified you are a bit more limited with parallel parking spaces simply because someone can drive a smaller car out of a space that turns out to be slightly shorter than your car. Plus you hang out of almost every car park space you encounter.
The other thing about big powerful cars is that whilst they are fast, you tend to drive them round built-up areas barely tickling the throttle. As they're running barely above tickover they just don't engine-brake like a small car (or an EV), and giving it a noisy bootful between crossings up the high street just makes you feel like a prick. So you tend to be one of the slowest cars on the road in built up areas. Quite fun when the person whose been driving up your backside all through town looking angry, rapidly disappears when you reach the derestricter, mind.
I also already have a 15mpg V8 in the stable so really, I don't need another one ...You don't buy a big V8 because you are looking for great fuel economy, but seeing those single figure tank averages when you (or in my case, the missus) have been using it exclusively for short local trips with a cold engine, well that is an encouragement to consider if Shanks' pony would be a better conveyance for those journeys. I still do short journeys, but I am more mindful of considering walking or cycling.
However, as you have correctly identified you are a bit more limited with parallel parking spaces simply because someone can drive a smaller car out of a space that turns out to be slightly shorter than your car. Plus you hang out of almost every car park space you encounter.
The other thing about big powerful cars is that whilst they are fast, you tend to drive them round built-up areas barely tickling the throttle. As they're running barely above tickover they just don't engine-brake like a small car (or an EV), and giving it a noisy bootful between crossings up the high street just makes you feel like a prick. So you tend to be one of the slowest cars on the road in built up areas. Quite fun when the person whose been driving up your backside all through town looking angry, rapidly disappears when you reach the derestricter, mind.
donkmeister said:
PrinceRupert said:
My MG4 lease ends next month and I had every intention of replacing it with a second-hand Honda E.
That said, there's a part of me that says "you only live once" and that I should buy this instead... Jaguar XJ Supersport
What a gorgeous colour scheme!
Get it bought.That said, there's a part of me that says "you only live once" and that I should buy this instead... Jaguar XJ Supersport
What a gorgeous colour scheme!
In all honesty the Honda E will have lower running costs regardless of the man maths applied, but it will feel like an appliance. This will feel epic.
Crook said:
This was my conclusion and make of it what you will
Cars are never, NEVER going to be as amazing as that ever again.
There will never be a better time than now to buy something like that, large capacity multi-cylinder forced induction 500bhp whatever cars without all the bings and bongs and nannying rubbish.
And, they re getting older and running costs are not going to come down and etc. so, I accept that some political unmentionable is charging me an offensive amount to drive it and I accept 22 average because that s a fair exchange but without a shadow of a doubt it s absolutely, in my opinion, 100% worth it.
This is my view too.Cars are never, NEVER going to be as amazing as that ever again.
There will never be a better time than now to buy something like that, large capacity multi-cylinder forced induction 500bhp whatever cars without all the bings and bongs and nannying rubbish.
And, they re getting older and running costs are not going to come down and etc. so, I accept that some political unmentionable is charging me an offensive amount to drive it and I accept 22 average because that s a fair exchange but without a shadow of a doubt it s absolutely, in my opinion, 100% worth it.
They’re simply not making any more ‘normal’ cars like this. We are likely in the last feasible window to try and enjoy them before legislation and/or taxation makes that (more) difficult.
donkmeister said:
GeniusOfLove said:
Saw that purple throbber go through BCA a couple of weeks ago, I was very tempted because of the colours. Think it went for £10.5k which is more or less what I paid for mine on the same mileage three years ago.
£20k is a lot. In fact it s what the guy before me paid for mine from QCT four years ago.
There was me thinking "a dealer in Virginia Water... clearly that's some London professional's cossetted car, traded in against something equally fabulous". I never considered it might be an auction car!£20k is a lot. In fact it s what the guy before me paid for mine from QCT four years ago.
Still, just because something goes through BCA doesn't mean it's crap. Horror stories abound, of Copart sending the truck to collect a pranged pride-and-joy "for assessment" only for it to go through auction. Also I know a chap who bought a car at BCA that had zero damage, the only issue was that it came with a decent quantity of fingerprint powder.
Was there any damage on it when you saw it? Could this be a "fix it then sell it" job?
Doubtless it needed some stuff done, of what must be thirty auction cars I have bought all bar maybe 2 have, but it looked a good one.
I also echo the post about enjoying these cars now, I think we re in a last golden age of affordable great cars.
For balance, my Supersport is f
ked at the moment 
Edited by GeniusOfLove on Sunday 24th May 23:18
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/227355096237?_skw=jagua...
Evans Halshaw has a slightly newer, slightly higher mileage one for £5k less - but, black on black
Evans Halshaw has a slightly newer, slightly higher mileage one for £5k less - but, black on black
anotherswifty said:
Playing devil s advocate, if the XJ is a tad impractical how about the same power in a smaller car ? XF SV8 or R, for slightly more bee-aich-pees per ton, and just as much if not now, when -ness.
XF weighs the same (XJ is aluminium, XF is all steel) and is so much less car in a lot of ways, and they also rust. They are quite a lot cheaper though.GeniusOfLove said:
XF weighs the same (XJ is aluminium, XF is all steel) and is so much less car in a lot of ways, and they also rust. They are quite a lot cheaper though.
This has always been my thinking - similar money for a heavier, less nice car. (I'm not convinced they're that much cheaper?)PrinceRupert said:
GeniusOfLove said:
XF weighs the same (XJ is aluminium, XF is all steel) and is so much less car in a lot of ways, and they also rust. They are quite a lot cheaper though.
This has always been my thinking - similar money for a heavier, less nice car. (I'm not convinced they're that much cheaper?)Very different character in the xfr compared to a xj supersport, but in terms of sheer excitement, they are probably THE best bang for buck saloon available on the market full stop. With prices going the way they are going I think I'd WANT a xj supersport or a cheap xkr 5.0, but I'll probably "settle" for a xfr (and a pair of pulleys
)Similarly to the s600 market there is a huge gulf between what traders pay for these cars and what they ask for them. I'm all for making a profit, but a near 100% margin is a bit strong, especially when it sold at auction not even 20 days ago so it's not like it was a prep heavy car.
The linked car is lovely though, I had GOL 90% talked into it... Then the next morning he bought the Aston instead
TheWokeBlob said:
Nah the xfr are way cheaper; £5-6k will get you a perfectly serviceable xfr off of the open market within a month or three of looking, while you'd be hard pushed to get the most leggiest ropey xj supersport for that sort of money trade, let alone on the open market.
Very different character in the xfr compared to a xj supersport, but in terms of sheer excitement, they are probably THE best bang for buck saloon available on the market full stop. With prices going the way they are going I think I'd WANT a xj supersport or a cheap xkr 5.0, but I'll probably "settle" for a xfr (and a pair of pulleys)
Similarly to the s600 market there is a huge gulf between what traders pay for these cars and what they ask for them. I'm all for making a profit, but a near 100% margin is a bit strong, especially when it sold at auction not even 20 days ago so it's not like it was a prep heavy car.
The linked car is lovely though, I had GOL 90% talked into it... Then the next morning he bought the Aston instead
Sounds like one really wants to pay 10-15k not 20k then. To be honest at 10k the heart might win over head, at 20k head will probably win Very different character in the xfr compared to a xj supersport, but in terms of sheer excitement, they are probably THE best bang for buck saloon available on the market full stop. With prices going the way they are going I think I'd WANT a xj supersport or a cheap xkr 5.0, but I'll probably "settle" for a xfr (and a pair of pulleys
)Similarly to the s600 market there is a huge gulf between what traders pay for these cars and what they ask for them. I'm all for making a profit, but a near 100% margin is a bit strong, especially when it sold at auction not even 20 days ago so it's not like it was a prep heavy car.
The linked car is lovely though, I had GOL 90% talked into it... Then the next morning he bought the Aston instead
The sound advice here about checking dimensions, not just assuming, is good.
Many a pickup truck driver has found to his angst that his new Ford Ranger may be on trend, but it is also 2 feet or so longer than your average XF.
I have bored the thread with my recent Range Rover L322 purchase, but it suits me.
My wife won't drive it because it is "far too large to park".
She drives a Saab 9-5 estate
Which do you think is longer?
Many a pickup truck driver has found to his angst that his new Ford Ranger may be on trend, but it is also 2 feet or so longer than your average XF.
I have bored the thread with my recent Range Rover L322 purchase, but it suits me.
My wife won't drive it because it is "far too large to park".
She drives a Saab 9-5 estate
Which do you think is longer?
Edited by QBee on Tuesday 26th May 10:39
PrinceRupert said:
_Rodders_ said:
Virtually non-existant now they're down to £15k or so, especially in the desirable colours.
Most seem to be low mileage, I guess they're not a motorway mileage muncher type car.
Hard for them to be given the miniscule range!Most seem to be low mileage, I guess they're not a motorway mileage muncher type car.
The MG doesn't get that many more miles in X-Power form for us and I've charged it away from home 3 times so far in 27000 miles.
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