Best smoker barges 1-5 large [Vol 22]
Discussion
RUI488 said:
donkmeister said:
There is an argument to be made for buying one of the cheapest ones (assuming not ruined) and holding the difference between that and the highest priced ones as a maintenance and repairs fund. Even on the most expensive ones there will be SOMETHING to do very soon, and that can be disappointing if you have bought one for top money.
9/10 it pays to buy the best example you can afford, not the worst. 
. If that best example comes with a load of work you have no budget for, then it's not a happy situation. There's only so much an inspection can reveal, and on the complex cars we fawn over the probability is that something will need attention in the first year of ownership.I've always ensured adequate borkage allowance and never been disappointed, but I've known people to spend their entire budget on the car to get the best one they can afford, only to find they can't actually afford it.
phil_cardiff said:
tobinen said:
Never heard of it, instantly want it. 
donkmeister said:
RUI488 said:
KPH isn’t a measurement of speed; Km/H is.
Kilometres per hour.
Km/H isn't kilometres per hour either, it's kilometres per henry. Km/h would be kilometres per hour.Kilometres per hour.
Now, henries per metre is used when describing magnetic permeability, so maybe you would use Km/H to describe magnetic reluctivity? I dunno, that's not my... field (baddum tish).
Or... We could accept that kph is a widely used acceptable abbreviation, and that the vast majority of the world doesn't use SI units correctly.
(It used to make my teeth itch to see people use capital K to refer to thousands of pounds, and lower case m for millions of pounds, but I realised business types weren't PowerPointing about temperatures or thousandths of pounds so I could overlook it for my own sanity)
bolidemichael said:
donkmeister said:
RUI488 said:
KPH isn’t a measurement of speed; Km/H is.
Kilometres per hour.
Km/H isn't kilometres per hour either, it's kilometres per henry. Km/h would be kilometres per hour.Kilometres per hour.
Now, henries per metre is used when describing magnetic permeability, so maybe you would use Km/H to describe magnetic reluctivity? I dunno, that's not my... field (baddum tish).
Or... We could accept that kph is a widely used acceptable abbreviation, and that the vast majority of the world doesn't use SI units correctly.
(It used to make my teeth itch to see people use capital K to refer to thousands of pounds, and lower case m for millions of pounds, but I realised business types weren't PowerPointing about temperatures or thousandths of pounds so I could overlook it for my own sanity)
fflump said:
bolidemichael said:
donkmeister said:
RUI488 said:
KPH isn’t a measurement of speed; Km/H is.
Kilometres per hour.
Km/H isn't kilometres per hour either, it's kilometres per henry. Km/h would be kilometres per hour.Kilometres per hour.
Now, henries per metre is used when describing magnetic permeability, so maybe you would use Km/H to describe magnetic reluctivity? I dunno, that's not my... field (baddum tish).
Or... We could accept that kph is a widely used acceptable abbreviation, and that the vast majority of the world doesn't use SI units correctly.
(It used to make my teeth itch to see people use capital K to refer to thousands of pounds, and lower case m for millions of pounds, but I realised business types weren't PowerPointing about temperatures or thousandths of pounds so I could overlook it for my own sanity)
I shan't sleep now, I've not felt so unsettled since the whole MiB vs MB, GiB vs GB debacle.
donkmeister said:
RUI488 said:
donkmeister said:
There is an argument to be made for buying one of the cheapest ones (assuming not ruined) and holding the difference between that and the highest priced ones as a maintenance and repairs fund. Even on the most expensive ones there will be SOMETHING to do very soon, and that can be disappointing if you have bought one for top money.
9/10 it pays to buy the best example you can afford, not the worst. . If that best example comes with a load of work you have no budget for, then it's not a happy situation. There's only so much an inspection can reveal, and on the complex cars we fawn over the probability is that something will need attention in the first year of ownership.I've always ensured adequate borkage allowance and never been disappointed, but I've known people to spend their entire budget on the car to get the best one they can afford, only to find they can't actually afford it.
donkmeister said:
fflump said:
bolidemichael said:
donkmeister said:
RUI488 said:
KPH isn’t a measurement of speed; Km/H is.
Kilometres per hour.
Km/H isn't kilometres per hour either, it's kilometres per henry. Km/h would be kilometres per hour.Kilometres per hour.
Now, henries per metre is used when describing magnetic permeability, so maybe you would use Km/H to describe magnetic reluctivity? I dunno, that's not my... field (baddum tish).
Or... We could accept that kph is a widely used acceptable abbreviation, and that the vast majority of the world doesn't use SI units correctly.
(It used to make my teeth itch to see people use capital K to refer to thousands of pounds, and lower case m for millions of pounds, but I realised business types weren't PowerPointing about temperatures or thousandths of pounds so I could overlook it for my own sanity)
I shan't sleep now, I've not felt so unsettled since the whole MiB vs MB, GiB vs GB debacle.
bolidemichael said:
donkmeister said:
fflump said:
bolidemichael said:
donkmeister said:
RUI488 said:
KPH isn’t a measurement of speed; Km/H is.
Kilometres per hour.
Km/H isn't kilometres per hour either, it's kilometres per henry. Km/h would be kilometres per hour.Kilometres per hour.
Now, henries per metre is used when describing magnetic permeability, so maybe you would use Km/H to describe magnetic reluctivity? I dunno, that's not my... field (baddum tish).
Or... We could accept that kph is a widely used acceptable abbreviation, and that the vast majority of the world doesn't use SI units correctly.
(It used to make my teeth itch to see people use capital K to refer to thousands of pounds, and lower case m for millions of pounds, but I realised business types weren't PowerPointing about temperatures or thousandths of pounds so I could overlook it for my own sanity)
I shan't sleep now, I've not felt so unsettled since the whole MiB vs MB, GiB vs GB debacle.
A MiB (mebibyte) is what we used to call a megabyte, until someone pointed out that mega means 1 million, not 1 and a bit million. Hence the bi part is "binary".
ETA the SI definition is a way of defining the second in terms that mean scientists all over the world can precisely measure 1 second.
Edited by donkmeister on Friday 29th November 19:22
donkmeister said:
bolidemichael said:
donkmeister said:
fflump said:
bolidemichael said:
donkmeister said:
RUI488 said:
KPH isn’t a measurement of speed; Km/H is.
Kilometres per hour.
Km/H isn't kilometres per hour either, it's kilometres per henry. Km/h would be kilometres per hour.Kilometres per hour.
Now, henries per metre is used when describing magnetic permeability, so maybe you would use Km/H to describe magnetic reluctivity? I dunno, that's not my... field (baddum tish).
Or... We could accept that kph is a widely used acceptable abbreviation, and that the vast majority of the world doesn't use SI units correctly.
(It used to make my teeth itch to see people use capital K to refer to thousands of pounds, and lower case m for millions of pounds, but I realised business types weren't PowerPointing about temperatures or thousandths of pounds so I could overlook it for my own sanity)
I shan't sleep now, I've not felt so unsettled since the whole MiB vs MB, GiB vs GB debacle.
A MiB (mebibyte) is what we used to call a megabyte, until someone pointed out that mega means 1 million, not 1 and a bit million. Hence the bi part is "binary".
ETA the SI definition is a way of defining the second in terms that mean scientists all over the world can precisely measure 1 second.
bolidemichael said:
I listened to a podcast on this the other day. The length of a second varies across various time keeping institutions around the world with NIST in Boulder, Colorado being the most accurate measurement.
I've never actually seen an atomic clock, but some equipment is going to measure better than others (I'm avoiding use of the words accurate and precise to avoid triggering anyone; it happened in another thread!).The funny thing is that the metre is defined in terms of seconds, which means that the length of a metre will also vary!
BenS94 said:
2860litres of seats down boot space.nobrakes said:
BenS94 said:
2860litres of seats down boot space.If it was ‘just a sensor mate’ they’d put a sensor in and stick a grand on the asking.
I'm sorta looking for a reasonably powerful estate (with a side-eye on anything cheap, bargey and V8) and have come to a horrible conclusion - unless I'm very, very lucky, it's going to have to be a diesel.
Mercedes E350 estates with the 265-ish BHP diesel V6 and maybe 100-130k miles seem to be slipping into thread, with a bit of choice available... would I regret it forever?
(aka: E350s. Talk to me.)
Mercedes E350 estates with the 265-ish BHP diesel V6 and maybe 100-130k miles seem to be slipping into thread, with a bit of choice available... would I regret it forever?
(aka: E350s. Talk to me.)
defblade said:
I'm sorta looking for a reasonably powerful estate (with a side-eye on anything cheap, bargey and V8) and have come to a horrible conclusion - unless I'm very, very lucky, it's going to have to be a diesel.
Mercedes E350 estates with the 265-ish BHP diesel V6 and maybe 100-130k miles seem to be slipping into thread, with a bit of choice available... would I regret it forever?
(aka: E350s. Talk to me.)
I have a 2011:Mercedes E350 estates with the 265-ish BHP diesel V6 and maybe 100-130k miles seem to be slipping into thread, with a bit of choice available... would I regret it forever?
(aka: E350s. Talk to me.)
Water pumps, thermostats, rear air bag suspension, egr/dpf/swirl flaps, different wheel sizes front to rear on some, eats suspension components, not as economical as you would expect
but comfy, good level of shove and quite big inside.
It throws a good sized bill from my indy at me every year.
GlenMH said:
I have a 2011:
Water pumps, thermostats, rear air bag suspension, egr/dpf/swirl flaps, different wheel sizes front to rear on some, eats suspension components, not as economical as you would expect
but comfy, good level of shove and quite big inside.
It throws a good sized bill from my indy at me every year.
Does it manage 40-odd mpg on a motorway run? The car before my current one was a JDM Legacy wagon that did 25mpg on 99RON only, so I'm not totally scared of fuel bills, but I would like some upside to having to run a diesel.Water pumps, thermostats, rear air bag suspension, egr/dpf/swirl flaps, different wheel sizes front to rear on some, eats suspension components, not as economical as you would expect
but comfy, good level of shove and quite big inside.
It throws a good sized bill from my indy at me every year.
I can't find much moaning about problems with the diesel emissions rubbish online, so I guess the bork levels there are at least no worse than any other modern-ish oil burner? And I'd expect cooling/suspension/etc on any barge at this sort of age... I'm quite handy with the spanners, so that doesn't scare me tooooo much either! Are they straight forward to work on?
And I'd have to say from looking at the adverts, their interiors seem to wear the miles very well, which is a plus point, too.
KadettE said:
Love that. It's in "The Business" spec and needs fake bullet holes all over the doors and an owner with a Fila tracksuit. They are going to be holding it for some time though. There are very few people that are going to be prepared to pony up 30 large for an R107 that isn't a 500. And when those small group of people come and see it, hardly any of them will be able to stomach it's colour.
I think it is glorious and worth every penny.
Hired one with the same engine in Cape Town years ago. The chap who ran the company then took us back to the airport in his taxi-one of the 15 k Merc's above. R107's do float around but that thing really glided. If I had a garage and didn't live in a water park, I would be having a gander at that.
It's one of the few cars that I have been in and thought "This would be amazing with an EV conversion"
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