Best smoker barges 1-5 large [Vol 22]
Best smoker barges 1-5 large [Vol 22]
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E90_M3Ross

36,727 posts

238 months

Sunday 11th May 2025
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Rayny said:
bolidemichael said:
Is it Friday yet? E39 540i in Atlantis Blue.

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/2025051022...

I’m pretty certain somehow that we’ve seen this before on sale, but the ad text states it’s the same owner for twenty years. Perhaps it was advertised then withdrawn.
Pretty colour, nice powerplant - But the text states gearbox-Manual, whereas my untrained eye seems to spot that it is an automatic.
Definitely an automatic

carinaman

24,763 posts

198 months

Sunday 11th May 2025
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martynr said:
W00DY said:
I remember these being used as a bait to order crap from catalogs back in the early 90s and you would be dropped in a draw to win one.

I never knew they came in leather seats. Interesting.
MoT history says 'heavily undersealed'. What are they like for rust?

My limited research says front subframe galvanised.

I've done rust and have no desire to deal with it again. I learnt that lesson when I was young.

It's a shame, an elderly relative that I doubt will see August has a bit of a thing for green cars and the LHD would've been ideal for reducing their number of steps from their place and at the other end at hospital. They've only been in a wheelchair when being pushed by a hospital porter. They'll be stubborn til their last breath. The number of steps things may be academic, the doors may be lighter and the people at hospital end are a bit funny at stopping at the nearest door. When they left last time I had to suggest to another younger relative that they drive on and turn around so the passenger door is kerbside rather than make the not long for this world relative walk around the front of the car and the length of the front wing to get to the nearside passenger door. Perhaps that Masters graduate had a lot on their mind and/or they're common sense deficient?


I just wanted it myself really, but I don't want to have to deal with a flaky floorpan caked in underseal now or next year.



Edited by carinaman on Sunday 11th May 13:49

Rayny

2,134 posts

227 months

Sunday 11th May 2025
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E90_M3Ross said:
Rayny said:
bolidemichael said:
Is it Friday yet? E39 540i in Atlantis Blue.

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/2025051022...

I’m pretty certain somehow that we’ve seen this before on sale, but the ad text states it’s the same owner for twenty years. Perhaps it was advertised then withdrawn.
Pretty colour, nice powerplant - But the text states gearbox-Manual, whereas my untrained eye seems to spot that it is an automatic.
Definitely an automatic
Sorry, I was not being serious. It just irritates me when people cannot get the most basic things right. Especially as I ignore all adverts for cars with a manual gearbox.

anotherswifty

723 posts

113 months

Sunday 11th May 2025
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bolidemichael said:
Is it Friday yet? E39 540i in Atlantis Blue.

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/2025051022...

I’m pretty certain somehow that we’ve seen this before on sale, but the ad text states it’s the same owner for twenty years. Perhaps it was advertised then withdrawn.
Yes I thought it was a re-appearance but any particular car in that vibrant colour is going to jog the memory of a previous ad.

anotherswifty

723 posts

113 months

Sunday 11th May 2025
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Sorry meant the earlier gen, like the one previously posted or https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202505062...

ingenieur

4,643 posts

207 months

Sunday 11th May 2025
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anotherswifty said:
bolidemichael said:
Is it Friday yet? E39 540i in Atlantis Blue.

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/2025051022...

I’m pretty certain somehow that we’ve seen this before on sale, but the ad text states it’s the same owner for twenty years. Perhaps it was advertised then withdrawn.
Yes I thought it was a re-appearance but any particular car in that vibrant colour is going to jog the memory of a previous ad.
Or another likely scenario is that the person who bought it says it has had the same owner for 20 years because he's just trading it on with £2 or 3k added to what he paid for it a few months ago.

W00DY

16,590 posts

252 months

Sunday 11th May 2025
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It's the same person selling it as has been for ages. Nothing has changed really, it's too much money.

https://www.lullingstonecars.co.uk/


ingenieur

4,643 posts

207 months

Sunday 11th May 2025
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I see how the original owner of my 750i justified the purchase... found in the sun visor pocket - has evaded detection up to this point.


ingenieur

4,643 posts

207 months

Sunday 11th May 2025
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Oh... apparently he was the chairman, that's what Google says.

W00DY

16,590 posts

252 months

Sunday 11th May 2025
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https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/277103318756

No reserve and no MOT, but it does have an OM606 so it could be an amusing thing with a few modifications.

tobinen

10,309 posts

171 months

Sunday 11th May 2025
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if it's not too dear then an ideal Euro barge to cruise to one's pad in Iberia/France/Italy, etc.

Thankfully W00DY has put away the sherry wink

bolidemichael

17,954 posts

227 months

Sunday 11th May 2025
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ingenieur said:
Oh... apparently he was the chairman, that's what Google says.
So actually, the car of a powerfully built company director Chairman.

anonymous-user

80 months

Sunday 11th May 2025
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I’ve narrowed a possible list of barges:

MG ZT-T
Jaguar XJ
Saab 9-5 HOT Aero

I’ve always liked the Saab. I know they aren’t the best on fuel. The MG is also quite a rare site on the roads. They seem to be holding their value. The Jag because I like them. I’m keen on what people think will hold its value.

GeniusOfLove

5,244 posts

38 months

Sunday 11th May 2025
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Mr.Nobody said:
I’ve narrowed a possible list of barges:

MG ZT-T
Jaguar XJ
Saab 9-5 HOT Aero

I’ve always liked the Saab. I know they aren’t the best on fuel. The MG is also quite a rare site on the roads. They seem to be holding their value. The Jag because I like them. I’m keen on what people think will hold its value.
The Saab and ZT-T are great cars if your budget is strictly three figures. Including the numbers after the decimal point.

None will hold any value worth a damn this side of the sun going out.


E90_M3Ross

36,727 posts

238 months

Sunday 11th May 2025
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Mr.Nobody said:
I’ve narrowed a possible list of barges:

MG ZT-T
Jaguar XJ
Saab 9-5 HOT Aero

I’ve always liked the Saab. I know they aren’t the best on fuel. The MG is also quite a rare site on the roads. They seem to be holding their value. The Jag because I like them. I’m keen on what people think will hold its value.
At this price point are you that concerned about holding value?! Just get the better car. Which is the Jag, without any doubt.

tobinen

10,309 posts

171 months

Sunday 11th May 2025
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What Ross and GoL said

anonymous-user

80 months

Sunday 11th May 2025
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GeniusOfLove said:
The Saab and ZT-T are great cars if your budget is strictly three figures. Including the numbers after the decimal point.

None will hold any value worth a damn this side of the sun going out.
The Saab I’ve seen is around £2000, the MG ZT-T is a 180 for £3000The Jag is the 3.0 Luxury for £3000.

GeniusOfLove

5,244 posts

38 months

Sunday 11th May 2025
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Mr.Nobody said:
GeniusOfLove said:
The Saab and ZT-T are great cars if your budget is strictly three figures. Including the numbers after the decimal point.

None will hold any value worth a damn this side of the sun going out.
The Saab I’ve seen is around £2000, the MG ZT-T is a 180 for £3000The Jag is the 3.0 Luxury for £3000.
Any XF will make a 9-5 or ZT-T feel like the sheds they are. Joking aside the 9-5 is a panic buy for a grand sort of car now, they were mediocre in 1997 and outright crap by the turn of the century. They were a good way into a turbo on the cheap for a while, although they were mostly autos so the turbo might as well have stayed at home anyway.

ZT-T is just a footnote in a sad history, best left to the Rover beards. They're ok, V6 can have niggles that take hours to fix, four pot petrols are crap, four pot diesels are slow, but again a decent enough 90s car but an XF is from a different era and the class above. I'd pick up a clean one for a grand to smoke around in semi ironically but £3k is... no.

3.0 petrol Duratec XF? Watch out for the monster RFL!

ETA to give you an idea how worthless XFs are to sell privately or for the trade to pick up:



Random snap of BCA sheds. Private you can stick 10% on top at most, they're murder to sell and a 3.0 petrol with the thick end of £800 a year tax even more so. I'd go for a private one and make a very cheeky offer, odds are on you'll be the first call the poor sod will have had.

Edited by GeniusOfLove on Sunday 11th May 21:13

tobinen

10,309 posts

171 months

Sunday 11th May 2025
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I'm not on the button for XF/XJ values but surely a 4.2 is to be had for close to bottom thread?

Edited by tobinen on Sunday 11th May 21:14

anonymous-user

80 months

Sunday 11th May 2025
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I’ve never owned any of the cars. Sorry the Jag is the 3.0 diesel. The only issue is well, the issues you have with any modern diesel. I can take them on a long run. I know what you’re saying when comparing it to the other two cars. It’s much newer, better tech etc. I think the other two are enthusiasts cars as you mentioned. I really wanted an Outback 3.0 but rust just kills them.