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Well, I was going to remark on how the M5 and Bristol make
an excellent two car garage until that SAAB 9000
was posted and one would have to find room for three... shirley?.
E63 with clear glass is as good as one is likely to find in terms of colour combo, but I detest the two tone interiors,
a legacy of MBUK's packaged interiors with limited options. It's not a patch on a complementary interior of old -- my E500 palm grey for example (not sure whose palm though, perhaps a cadaver?), has light and dark grey and contrasted by birds eye maple trim which itself is surrounded by chrome strips. Very tastefully done and particularly with the light grey pillar and headlining -- the lower parts of the B pillars are dark grey.
an excellent two car garage until that SAAB 9000
was posted and one would have to find room for three... shirley?.
E63 with clear glass is as good as one is likely to find in terms of colour combo, but I detest the two tone interiors,
a legacy of MBUK's packaged interiors with limited options. It's not a patch on a complementary interior of old -- my E500 palm grey for example (not sure whose palm though, perhaps a cadaver?), has light and dark grey and contrasted by birds eye maple trim which itself is surrounded by chrome strips. Very tastefully done and particularly with the light grey pillar and headlining -- the lower parts of the B pillars are dark grey.
AnonSA said:
Hippea said:
I have been coming back to this all week. I am genuinely tempted although it would mean using a 25 year old car for daily duties of 30 miles a day, although very little town work. It would seem almost a shame to do that to it though! That said, it looks in absolutely brilliant condition from the photos. The E39, much like the E46, just looks so right.
thebursar said:
AnonSA said:
Hippea said:
I have been coming back to this all week. I am genuinely tempted although it would mean using a 25 year old car for daily duties of 30 miles a day, although very little town work. It would seem almost a shame to do that to it though! That said, it looks in absolutely brilliant condition from the photos. The E39, much like the E46, just looks so right.
It is a lovely car though, and I’m surprised it hasn’t sold
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/227266881244?_skw=db7&a...
Saturday budget creep, probably the only car that could get me out of the Dodge and the Jag. Always wanted a manual V12 and the DB7 is my favourite Aston, luckily I have cheap taste.
Saturday budget creep, probably the only car that could get me out of the Dodge and the Jag. Always wanted a manual V12 and the DB7 is my favourite Aston, luckily I have cheap taste.
Lord E38 said:
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/227266881244?_skw=db7&a...
Saturday budget creep, probably the only car that could get me out of the Dodge and the Jag. Always wanted a manual V12 and the DB7 is my favourite Aston, luckily I have cheap taste.
I saw that and thought "bloody hell that's cheap" then saw it's on 144k. Could take a long time to sell, that, but I think it's still worth a look as long as you can give it a bloody good going over before you buy, I'm not sure if the DB7 version of the V12 is as prone to the ticking sound and death as the DB9 one but you need to run them right up temperature for quite a while before it becomes evident.Saturday budget creep, probably the only car that could get me out of the Dodge and the Jag. Always wanted a manual V12 and the DB7 is my favourite Aston, luckily I have cheap taste.
If it's made it to 144k though it must be a good one?
Edited by GeniusOfLove on Saturday 9th May 13:58
Hippea said:
thebursar said:
AnonSA said:
Hippea said:
I have been coming back to this all week. I am genuinely tempted although it would mean using a 25 year old car for daily duties of 30 miles a day, although very little town work. It would seem almost a shame to do that to it though! That said, it looks in absolutely brilliant condition from the photos. The E39, much like the E46, just looks so right.
It is a lovely car though, and I m surprised it hasn t sold
GeniusOfLove said:
Lord E38 said:
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/227266881244?_skw=db7&a...
Saturday budget creep, probably the only car that could get me out of the Dodge and the Jag. Always wanted a manual V12 and the DB7 is my favourite Aston, luckily I have cheap taste.
I saw that and thought "bloody hell that's cheap" then saw it's on 144k. Could take a long time to sell, that, but I think it's still worth a look as long as you can give it a bloody good going over before you buy, I'm not sure if the DB7 version of the V12 is as prone to the ticking sound and death as the DB9 one but you need to run them right up temperature for quite a while before it becomes evident.Saturday budget creep, probably the only car that could get me out of the Dodge and the Jag. Always wanted a manual V12 and the DB7 is my favourite Aston, luckily I have cheap taste.
If it's made it to 144k though it must be a good one?
Edited by GeniusOfLove on Saturday 9th May 13:58
GeniusOfLove said:
Lord E38 said:
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/227266881244?_skw=db7&a...
Saturday budget creep, probably the only car that could get me out of the Dodge and the Jag. Always wanted a manual V12 and the DB7 is my favourite Aston, luckily I have cheap taste.
I saw that and thought "bloody hell that's cheap" then saw it's on 144k. Could take a long time to sell, that, but I think it's still worth a look as long as you can give it a bloody good going over before you buy, I'm not sure if the DB7 version of the V12 is as prone to the ticking sound and death as the DB9 one but you need to run them right up temperature for quite a while before it becomes evident.Saturday budget creep, probably the only car that could get me out of the Dodge and the Jag. Always wanted a manual V12 and the DB7 is my favourite Aston, luckily I have cheap taste.
If it's made it to 144k though it must be a good one?
Edited by GeniusOfLove on Saturday 9th May 13:58
Coil pack replacement on the V12 is a big deal, as is anything A/C as the dash has to come out nine out of ten times. I have driven many DB7 s from very early I6 right up to some of the last of the Vantage examples, a manual V12 is a very pleasant experience but I prefer the I6 in many ways. But they are all pretty robust so long as they are used.
Only ever seen one Aston V12 with the tick fault and I see a few of them!
Edited by AnonSA on Saturday 9th May 21:18
dscam said:
bolidemichael said:
This is my Friday offering and in my favoured colour combo of Indianapolis Red over Sepang Bronze Merino Leather. Chris Harris butchered the one I lusted after and it's great to know that another exists. It won't be mine on this occassion, but one day it will be 
https://www.pistonheads.com/buy/auction/20373011
Beautiful. I d wholeheartedly agree.https://www.pistonheads.com/buy/auction/20373011
I was searching to buy one a few years ago and having failed to find one under £35k ended up with the E63 AMG, but not an estate.
Still rank it as the most complete car I ve owned with a spectacular engine. I d therefore posit this alternative Friday offering:
https://ebay.us/m/mQYqSv
The clear glass is a funny thing, I did about 330 miles yesterday and saw a lot of cars and apart from some nice old things bimbling around the one that really stood out was a first gen (don't know numbers) Cayenne Turbo, immaculate in silver with clear glass all round; it looked so light and it took me a moment to realise it was the clear glass.
This was on the motorway and I looked about and all the other cars had blacked out rear glass irrespective of type.
Why has this become the norm? is it part of the quadruple black brain-dead car ordering culture where the purchaser believes it signifies 'cool'? because it absolutely doesn't.
It's a fashion thing, no?
Like diamond cut alloys, M spec black roof bars and rubber band tyres - all things that make little difference to a passenger but mean the world to those who cherish such things.
Personally I'm still trying to come to terms with the loss of front fog lights. The badge of the serious performance car from my youth, now sadly discarded like Action Man and Meccano.
My neighbour has a carbon fibre roof on his BMW - not sure what advantage it conveys and (of course) it is not painted. Quick car though. Another neighbour had a Brera with a glass roof - all one panel. Invisible from inside!
Like diamond cut alloys, M spec black roof bars and rubber band tyres - all things that make little difference to a passenger but mean the world to those who cherish such things.
Personally I'm still trying to come to terms with the loss of front fog lights. The badge of the serious performance car from my youth, now sadly discarded like Action Man and Meccano.
My neighbour has a carbon fibre roof on his BMW - not sure what advantage it conveys and (of course) it is not painted. Quick car though. Another neighbour had a Brera with a glass roof - all one panel. Invisible from inside!
C6 with a ticket and "no issues" for under a grand. That's cheap, even if it is a diesel.
https://ebay.us/m/qiHpQg
https://ebay.us/m/qiHpQg
It is a fashion thing but to me it's a "why?" and why now.
It's just not aesthetically pleasing; I typed a lot and have deleted it because I went off on one and it's only Monday.
My car has blacked out rear windows (I got it used so no choice) which I do my level best to ignore but it would definitely look better with clear.
It's a stupid design language of looking 'mean' or 'aggressive' (see any Audi RS product...) or 'luxury' or whatever along with the whole black nonsense.
Manufacturers need to start doing good design rather than populist design.
Anyway, here's a nice old car with clear glass and green paint.
No tints
It's just not aesthetically pleasing; I typed a lot and have deleted it because I went off on one and it's only Monday.
My car has blacked out rear windows (I got it used so no choice) which I do my level best to ignore but it would definitely look better with clear.
It's a stupid design language of looking 'mean' or 'aggressive' (see any Audi RS product...) or 'luxury' or whatever along with the whole black nonsense.
Manufacturers need to start doing good design rather than populist design.
Anyway, here's a nice old car with clear glass and green paint.
No tints
My silver family wagon has quite heavily, but factory, tinted rear windows (only sides, not the rear window). It helps with shade (and means the toddler doesn't need his own specific sunshade), gives the kids somewhere reasonably private to get changed between school and sports clubs, it doesn't matter really if you leave a phone, ipad, tools etc in the back. But I accept my practical reasons for liking tints will not extend to the innits in their german whip wagons, who want it because it looks sick, bro.
Crook said:
Yes.
The clear glass is a funny thing, I did about 330 miles yesterday and saw a lot of cars and apart from some nice old things bimbling around the one that really stood out was a first gen (don't know numbers) Cayenne Turbo, immaculate in silver with clear glass all round; it looked so light and it took me a moment to realise it was the clear glass.
This was on the motorway and I looked about and all the other cars had blacked out rear glass irrespective of type.
Why has this become the norm? is it part of the quadruple black brain-dead car ordering culture where the purchaser believes it signifies 'cool'? because it absolutely doesn't.
If the clear glass isn't available from the factory, it's probably because other countries get more sun so need the automotive equivalent of sunglasses.The clear glass is a funny thing, I did about 330 miles yesterday and saw a lot of cars and apart from some nice old things bimbling around the one that really stood out was a first gen (don't know numbers) Cayenne Turbo, immaculate in silver with clear glass all round; it looked so light and it took me a moment to realise it was the clear glass.
This was on the motorway and I looked about and all the other cars had blacked out rear glass irrespective of type.
Why has this become the norm? is it part of the quadruple black brain-dead car ordering culture where the purchaser believes it signifies 'cool'? because it absolutely doesn't.
If it is, then I suspect at least some buyers are thinking "shade for the kids in the back". Not everyone realises that they can buy a posh car with electric window shades (or even a posh trim of a mainstream car with manual ones) so assumes that tints are the way.
There will be some who but it because it's part of a styling package and they have no feelings about it either way.
Of course, some will buy it "because gangsta". You'll see them leaning back in their cheap SUV, driving like a knob.
donkmeister said:
Crook said:
There is a musical double act on YouTube called "Pete and Bas", I'm now wondering if QBee is one half of it...On the way there I thought, "I hope it isn't black outside/black inside".
Got there and found that it was exactly that, my last possible choice of colour.
The owner said " it's actually a lot nicer than you think if you drive it with the sunroof's sliding cover open".
We took it on a test drive with her indoors in the rear and me and him up front.
I had sensibly added it to my car insurance the evening before for the purpose.
The windows are so large, and the glass not as dark as it looks, that it is a lot lighter than you expect inside.
Also for some reason the black leather is superb quality and looks almost brand new, which is quite surprising for a 120,000 mile car that is 14 years old.
I have noticed that the cream leather in other Range Rovers that age tends to look somewhat creased.
I bought it there and then with no regrets, and none since.
I have noticed since that prices vary enormously for the same age/version/mileage of the car, but in diferent colours.
And I don't mean by a few hundred quid - the black/black is generally the cheapest, the mid-green/beige the most exensive and is often 4 times the price.
Don't dismiss the "gangsta" cars, go for a test drive with an open mind and an open sunroof cover.
I recently had a trip in the back of a much newer Mercedes GLC and that was horribly dark inside.
But not nearly as bad as the black/black TVR Sagaris is. It's like looking out of a letter box.
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