EVs... no one wants them! (Vol. 2)
Discussion
Tiglon said:
Even the guy who designed all the Apple products doesn't think large touchscreens work in cars.
https://www.topgear.com/car-news/big-reads/a-large...
I do remember thinking the Model S interior looked brilliant when it was first released (like something from the future), but that was 14 years ago when I was young and naive. Now I'm old and grumpy and big screens in cars are stupid.
And yet, car after car is being designed from pretty much every manufacturer with a touchscreen or two. How come car companies didn't consult him over the last decade and stick with analogue dials and buttons?https://www.topgear.com/car-news/big-reads/a-large...
I do remember thinking the Model S interior looked brilliant when it was first released (like something from the future), but that was 14 years ago when I was young and naive. Now I'm old and grumpy and big screens in cars are stupid.
Tiglon said:
Even the guy who designed all the Apple products doesn't think large touchscreens work in cars.
https://www.topgear.com/car-news/big-reads/a-large...
I do remember thinking the Model S interior looked brilliant when it was first released (like something from the future), but that was 14 years ago when I was young and naive. Now I'm old and grumpy and big screens in cars are stupid.
Yes, but he says that in the context of having just designed this.https://www.topgear.com/car-news/big-reads/a-large...
I do remember thinking the Model S interior looked brilliant when it was first released (like something from the future), but that was 14 years ago when I was young and naive. Now I'm old and grumpy and big screens in cars are stupid.
That is kind of a large touchscreen, isn't it?
I prefer my current car:
to my last BMW
or the Mercedes before it
There's nothing I preferred about those dashboards. I didn't like their tiny little screens or non-touch interfaces, and I don't miss having any of the physical controls.
I didn't say that the general public don't like large touchscreens, or that a bloke on PH doesn't prefer his Tesla interior to his previous cars (both pretty ugly interiors, I'm with you on that).
Most people clearly do love big touch screens in cars. Most people loved Jimmy Saville - you can't trust people.
Most people clearly do love big touch screens in cars. Most people loved Jimmy Saville - you can't trust people.
DT1975 said:
MediumBuild said:
Your choice. No-one is forcing you to pay. And it s not rad tax.
We can do drivers on the phone next eh Lee? FFS.
Thank christ we don't have rad tax...we've got 15 of the buggers :-)We can do drivers on the phone next eh Lee? FFS.
Given that so many of those large touchscreens are centrally mounted, and given that more people are right-handed than left-handed, I wonder if those screens are actually easier to use in LHD cars ? I know I find mine (lowly MG5) awkward - but then it does have an awfully designed interface.
Penny Whistle said:
Given that so many of those large touchscreens are centrally mounted, and given that more people are right-handed than left-handed, I wonder if those screens are actually easier to use in LHD cars ? I know I find mine (lowly MG5) awkward - but then it does have an awfully designed interface.
Hadn't thought of that.The issue I find with them is having somewhere to rest the bottom of my hand to make it easier to hit the target with finger tip. I'm sure some cars will be much easier in that regard, and it's probably less of a problem in countries with smoother roads.
Penny Whistle said:
Given that so many of those large touchscreens are centrally mounted, and given that more people are right-handed than left-handed, I wonder if those screens are actually easier to use in LHD cars ? I know I find mine (lowly MG5) awkward - but then it does have an awfully designed interface.
How have people managed to change gear, alter heater and radio settings all these years prior to touchscreens?Tiglon said:
Hadn't thought of that.
The issue I find with them is having somewhere to rest the bottom of my hand to make it easier to hit the target with finger tip. I'm sure some cars will be much easier in that regard, and it's probably less of a problem in countries with smoother roads.
That's the reason, in my opinion, the screens need to be large and mounted high up for both ease of use and safety. A small touch screen buried somewhere in the dash for neatness is an ergonomic disaster.The issue I find with them is having somewhere to rest the bottom of my hand to make it easier to hit the target with finger tip. I'm sure some cars will be much easier in that regard, and it's probably less of a problem in countries with smoother roads.
otolith said:
Tiglon said:
Hadn't thought of that.
The issue I find with them is having somewhere to rest the bottom of my hand to make it easier to hit the target with finger tip. I'm sure some cars will be much easier in that regard, and it's probably less of a problem in countries with smoother roads.
That's the reason, in my opinion, the screens need to be large and mounted high up for both ease of use and safety. A small touch screen buried somewhere in the dash for neatness is an ergonomic disaster.The issue I find with them is having somewhere to rest the bottom of my hand to make it easier to hit the target with finger tip. I'm sure some cars will be much easier in that regard, and it's probably less of a problem in countries with smoother roads.
MightyBadger said:
Penny Whistle said:
Given that so many of those large touchscreens are centrally mounted, and given that more people are right-handed than left-handed, I wonder if those screens are actually easier to use in LHD cars ? I know I find mine (lowly MG5) awkward - but then it does have an awfully designed interface.
How have people managed to change gear, alter heater and radio settings all these years prior to touchscreens?SWoll said:
MightyBadger said:
How have people managed to change gear, alter heater and radio settings all these years prior to touchscreens?
There a level of precision required with a touchscreen that isn't with physical knobs/buttons I'd suggest.eldar said:
MightyBadger said:
Penny Whistle said:
Given that so many of those large touchscreens are centrally mounted, and given that more people are right-handed than left-handed, I wonder if those screens are actually easier to use in LHD cars ? I know I find mine (lowly MG5) awkward - but then it does have an awfully designed interface.
How have people managed to change gear, alter heater and radio settings all these years prior to touchscreens?Euro NCAP said:
Under the new rating scheme, which is due to come into force from January 2026, manufacturers won’t be able to achieve the highest safety ratings if they don’t provide proper, physical switches for certain functions including indicators, hazard lights, sounding the horn, operating windscreen wipers and activating the eCall SOS function.
https://etsc.eu/cars-will-need-buttons-not-just-to...MightyBadger said:
Penny Whistle said:
Given that so many of those large touchscreens are centrally mounted, and given that more people are right-handed than left-handed, I wonder if those screens are actually easier to use in LHD cars ? I know I find mine (lowly MG5) awkward - but then it does have an awfully designed interface.
How have people managed to change gear, alter heater and radio settings all these years prior to touchscreens?SWoll said:
MightyBadger said:
How have people managed to change gear, alter heater and radio settings all these years prior to touchscreens?
There a level of precision required with a touchscreen that isn't with physical knobs/buttons I'd suggest.MightyBadger said:
Penny Whistle said:
Given that so many of those large touchscreens are centrally mounted, and given that more people are right-handed than left-handed, I wonder if those screens are actually easier to use in LHD cars ? I know I find mine (lowly MG5) awkward - but then it does have an awfully designed interface.
How have people managed to change gear, alter heater and radio settings all these years prior to touchscreens?Gassing Station | Car Buying | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff