EVs... no one wants them! (Vol. 2)

[otolith]

My last BMW diesel was recalled for a fire risk too.

[MightyBadger]

Buzz84 said:

So?

It's not like there has never been any recalls for ICE engine fires.

72k Stellantis vehicles recalled for engine fire risk (fuel hoses):
https://www.autoexpress.co.uk/news/367535/fire-ris...

200k BMW recalled for fire risk (starter motors)
https://edition.cnn.com/2025/09/26/us/bmw-fire-rec...

700k Fords recalled due to fire risk (fuel injectors):
https://www.independent.co.uk/bulletin/news/ford-v...

720k Honda's recall for fire risk (fuel pumps):
https://www.motortrend.com/news/honda-fuel-pump-re...

All withing the last year, all for items unique to ICE engines.

Post something that's unique to EVs and maybe we will care...

So? They are ICE stats, this is an EV related thread.

It's unique to EVs, ICE cars don't tend to off gas from their batteries and then catch fire...unless it's an RR parked at an airport etc.

[nickfrog]

MightyBadger said:

So? They are ICE stats, this is an EV related thread.

It's unique to EVs, ICE cars don't tend to off gas from their batteries and then catch fire...unless it's an RR parked at an airport etc.

Just don't buy one MB and stop making yourself look like a total cretin and a total weirdo. Just don't buy an EV, job done.

[MightyBadger]

nickfrog said:

Just don't buy one MB and stop making yourself look like a total cretin and a total weirdo. Just don't buy an EV, job done.

Don't worry NF I won't be buying a Jeep.

Edited by MightyBadger on Tuesday 11th November 20:27

[plfrench]

MightyBadger said:

loudlashadjuster said:

That s a lot of cars. Congratulations to them!

Every single one has recalls for risk of fire.

So you're saying people would have been better off buying the EV variant, rather than the 4XE which is a hybrid?

[Terminator X]

Buzz84 said:

So?

It's not like there has never been any recalls for ICE engine fires.

72k Stellantis vehicles recalled for engine fire risk (fuel hoses):
https://www.autoexpress.co.uk/news/367535/fire-ris...

200k BMW recalled for fire risk (starter motors)
https://edition.cnn.com/2025/09/26/us/bmw-fire-rec...

700k Fords recalled due to fire risk (fuel injectors):
https://www.independent.co.uk/bulletin/news/ford-v...

720k Honda's recall for fire risk (fuel pumps):
https://www.motortrend.com/news/honda-fuel-pump-re...

All withing the last year, all for items unique to ICE engines.

Post something that's unique to EVs and maybe we will care...

Does ICE need to be dunked in water for 24hrs to put the fire out?

TX.

[MightyBadger]

plfrench said:

So you're saying people would have been better off buying the EV variant, rather than the 4XE which is a hybrid?

No idea, the plug in Hybrids are affected. It has a battery and you plug it in to charge.

...

Jeep has issued a global recall for 375,000 plug-in hybrid Wrangler and Grand Cherokee 4xe models due to a fire risk from a faulty high-voltage battery pack. Owners are advised not to charge their vehicles and to park them outdoors away from buildings until a fix is available.

[blueg33]

MightyBadger said:

plfrench said:

So you're saying people would have been better off buying the EV variant, rather than the 4XE which is a hybrid?

No idea, the plug in Hybrids are affected. It has a battery and you plug it in to charge.

...

Jeep has issued a global recall for 375,000 plug-in hybrid Wrangler and Grand Cherokee 4xe models due to a fire risk from a faulty high-voltage battery pack. Owners are advised not to charge their vehicles and to park them outdoors away from buildings until a fix is available.

Plenty of ICE cars have been recalled for fire risk.

[Buzz84]

MightyBadger said:

So? They are ICE stats, this is an EV related thread.

It's unique to EVs, ICE cars don't tend to off gas from their batteries and then catch fire...unless it's an RR parked at an airport etc.

So? You come posting drivel about a model of car being recalled for fire risks, you post it as a reason against EVs

As a valid response I have just provided sources and factual information to highlight that it is not a unique issue to EVs.

Fires so not only happen to EVs, petrols are just as (if not more) susceptible to fire and subject to manufacturer related recalls.

It's not an EV only thread, it's a discussion thread which started to comparing the (at the time) lower sales of EV cars Vs their petrol equivalents. It's discussing the differences between them and the relative depreciation rates.

Even if it were EV only, why is itd you never post anything that may be considered pro EV? You literally only come here to posts anti EV information that's generally from questionable sources (in the very rare event you actually post a source) you never contribute with any form of comparison or discussion, which adds nothing.

[MightyBadger]

Buzz84 said:

So? You come posting drivel about a model of car being recalled for fire risks, you post it as a reason against EVs

As a valid response I have just provided sources and factual information to highlight that it is not a unique issue to EVs.

Fires so not only happen to EVs, petrols are just as (if not more) susceptible to fire and subject to manufacturer related recalls.

It's not an EV only thread, it's a discussion thread which started to comparing the (at the time) lower sales of EV cars Vs their petrol equivalents. It's discussing the differences between them and the relative depreciation rates.

Even if it were EV only, why is itd you never post anything that may be considered pro EV? You literally only come here to posts anti EV information that's generally from questionable sources (in the very rare event you actually post a source) you never contribute with any form of comparison or discussion, which adds nothing.

Ok Buzz.

[Buzz84]

Terminator X said:

Does ICE need to be dunked in water for 24hrs to put the fire out?

TX.

No dunking needed for ICE, as MightyBadger repeatedly reminds us, it is it is impossible for an ICE car to be of any risk of fire and there has never been a recorded incident of an ICE vehicle ever catching fire in the history of man...

Car fires only got invented for those pesky EVs...

[GT9]

MightyBadger said:

Ok Buzz.

I hope you are working on a coping strategy for when solid state comes along.

[MightyBadger]

Buzz84 said:

No dunking needed for ICE, as MightyBadger repeatedly reminds us, it is it is impossible for an ICE car to be of any risk of fire and there has never been a recorded incident of an ICE vehicle ever catching fire in the history of man...

Car fires only got invented for those pesky EVs...

Strange reply, you are as bad as the BBC.

You have not read any of my previous posts lol. I have never ever said ICE don't catch fire? Had one go up in the 90s.

Carry on.

[hidetheelephants]

GT9 said:

MightyBadger said:

Ok Buzz.

I hope you are working on a coping strategy for when solid state comes along.

The people who mysteriously need to drive 500 miles non-stop with fully laden 3.5t trailers will have scope creep and need to do 1000 miles instead.

[blueg33]

MightyBadger said:

Buzz84 said:

No dunking needed for ICE, as MightyBadger repeatedly reminds us, it is it is impossible for an ICE car to be of any risk of fire and there has never been a recorded incident of an ICE vehicle ever catching fire in the history of man...

Car fires only got invented for those pesky EVs...

Strange reply, you are as bad as the BBC.

You have not read any of my previous posts lol. I have never ever said ICE don't catch fire? Had one go up in the 90s.

Carry on.

Unfortunately I have read many of your posts. You have repeatedly made false and unsubstantiated claims about EV fires. Each time when challenged you have been unable to provide any evidence.

Edited by blueg33 on Wednesday 12th November 09:45

[RizzoTheRat]

MightyBadger said:

So? They are ICE stats, this is an EV related thread.

They're not stats, they're individual facts. A statistic would be the proportion of EV cars manufactured that have been recalled due to fire risks compared to the proportion of ICE cars manufactured that have been recalled due to fire risks. I don't know what that figure is but if you genuinely think EVs are a fire risk you should look it up and if they're more commonly recalled than ICE cars then people will believe you.


There are car crashes every day, that doesn't mean driving a car is more dangerous than riding a motorbike.

[charltjr]

MightyBadger said:

Jeep have sold a whopping 375000 of it's 4xe in America!

.. waits for someone to bite

MightyBadger said:

Every single one has recalls for risk of fire.

How vigorously did you pleasure yourself over that bait and switch? Be honest now.

[plfrench]

charltjr said:

MightyBadger said:

Jeep have sold a whopping 375000 of it's 4xe in America!

.. waits for someone to bite

MightyBadger said:

Every single one has recalls for risk of fire.

How vigorously did you pleasure yourself over that bait and switch? Be honest now.

Particularly odd when it’s a hybrid and not even an EV

[Buzz84]

MightyBadger said:

Buzz84 said:

No dunking needed for ICE, as MightyBadger repeatedly reminds us, it is it is impossible for an ICE car to be of any risk of fire and there has never been a recorded incident of an ICE vehicle ever catching fire in the history of man...

Car fires only got invented for those pesky EVs...

Strange reply, you are as bad as the BBC.

You have not read any of my previous posts lol. I have never ever said ICE don't catch fire? Had one go up in the 90s.

Carry on.

I have (unfortunately) read all of your posts, How are you getting on with substantiating your statements that 3 vehicle carrier ships have been sunk directly because of fires started by EV's being carried on board? (yes, I read that one too...)

You come in here like a dog with two dicks super excited to announce to everyone when there has been an EV fire or that there is a recall on an EV as if you are trying to discredit them.

Yet in reality it is irrelevant, fires happen to all vehicles, it has been pointed out over and over (with sources provided with figures adjusted to ratio that with sales) that ICE cars are in the region of 20x more likely to catch fire.

You come on all giddy pointing out the jeep recall 375k vehicles due to fire risks. Irrelevant, Recalls happen to all vehicles regardless of power source and isn't unique to EVs. As I posted (with sources) within the last year, Ford, Stellantis, Honda and BMW have all recalled cars ICE powered vehicles to fix fire risks.

If you haven't got an agenda against EV's, and are just being informative as you claim, Which PH thread are you posting all the ICE fires and commenting on all the ICE recalls in?

[nickfrog]

MB is beyond odd, even by PH standards. I genuinely didn't realise there were people like this before using PH.