EVs... no one wants them! (Vol. 2)
Discussion
sixor8 said:
otolith said:
..... So in theory I could have skipped the charge and arrived with 5%, but that's too tight for me, doesn't leave any scope for road closures or diversions. I put in more than I needed, could have saved a bit of money by hanging around until it had just enough, but wasn't interested in that. Parked it, plugged it, did what I needed at the services and left.
I clipped it to use the relevant bit, you're still planning a little bit like an ICE car there. In heavy traffic due to diversions (if it's a long one, yes that would matter), an EV is actually more efficient. If you're stuck in a jam, yes the lights, radio etc use energy but a tiny amount to that required for propulsion. The Honda eNy1 built in nav isn't dynamic so I use Google maps via Android Auto. I do seem to live dangerously, I've arrived home with 1%
. That was due to misjudging the stormforce headwind effect on range. Had to turn off the heater for the last 10 miles. 
I usually aim for 5% too, just in case. 
Traffic isn’t the concern, it’s getting a diversion which substantially increases the journey length while planning to arrive home with only fifteen or twenty miles of range remaining. I have had to make that sort of diversion length a few times when either the motorway has been closed or the bridge across the river near home. For the sake of a few quid in overpriced electricity during a stop I needed anyway, I don’t need the risk.
otolith said:
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planning to arrive home with only fifteen or twenty miles of range remaining. I have had to make that sort of diversion length a few times when either the motorway has been closed or the bridge across the river near home. For the sake of a few quid in overpriced electricity during a stop I needed anyway, I don t need the risk.
Had my first really worrying moment on Friday night, after a long day (started on 94%) and then picking up a passenger in town, I then had 13 miles remaining, to cover 7 miles in the dark. Before I was home, the bar turned red at 4% and the miles remaining went blank.planning to arrive home with only fifteen or twenty miles of range remaining. I have had to make that sort of diversion length a few times when either the motorway has been closed or the bridge across the river near home. For the sake of a few quid in overpriced electricity during a stop I needed anyway, I don t need the risk.
Really didn't like the feeling, although I made it home (still on 4%) and thankfully plugged in. Would have been stuck if the home charger was broken.
sixor8 said:
Yes, they are, but it means you have a back up. I've got home with 1% (although that was a misjudgement). 90% of my charging is done this way (dedicated outside socket on its own spur put in by the previous owner, bless him )
Surely 3 pin charging only works on something with a small battery like a Zoe. I would expect my car to take 3 or 4 days charging this way. )I am already contemplating resurrecting the 3 phase connection that goes into our barns for future EV charging.
South tdf said:
Surely 3 pin charging only works on something with a small battery like a Zoe. I would expect my car to take 3 or 4 days charging this way.
I am already contemplating resurrecting the 3 phase connection that goes into our barns for future EV charging.
Been running EV's for almost 7 years now and average about 15k miles per year. 99.9% of that has been done with a.granny charger at 2kW, including multiple EV's with batteries of 80+kWh and relatively poor efficiency.I am already contemplating resurrecting the 3 phase connection that goes into our barns for future EV charging.
Our usage is consistent though and very rare we have back to back days of covering more than 50 miles.
SWoll said:
South tdf said:
Surely 3 pin charging only works on something with a small battery like a Zoe. I would expect my car to take 3 or 4 days charging this way.
I am already contemplating resurrecting the 3 phase connection that goes into our barns for future EV charging.
Been running EV's for almost 7 years now and average about 15k miles per year. 99.9% of that has been done with a.granny charger at 2kW, including multiple EV's with batteries of 80+kWh and relatively poor efficiency.I am already contemplating resurrecting the 3 phase connection that goes into our barns for future EV charging.
Our usage is consistent though and very rare we have back to back days of covering more than 50 miles.
South tdf said:
sixor8 said:
Yes, they are, but it means you have a back up. I've got home with 1% (although that was a misjudgement). 90% of my charging is done this way (dedicated outside socket on its own spur put in by the previous owner, bless him )
Surely 3 pin charging only works on something with a small battery like a Zoe. I would expect my car to take 3 or 4 days charging this way. )I am already contemplating resurrecting the 3 phase connection that goes into our barns for future EV charging.
All response are welcome but I was actually asking if M4cruiser had a 3 pin lead; he said he'd have been stuck with only 4%if his home charger was broken. O/T, I've discovered quite a lot of Wenea street chargers getting recently installed around here in pairs. 49p per kWh (7kW rate I think), with bays marked for EV charging and a 6 hour limit.
Edited by sixor8 on Sunday 14th December 10:26
andrewpandrew said:
MightyBadger said:
Octopus are going to be limiting cheap charging to 6 hours per 24 hours!
So I guess you've still got the opportunity of putting around 150 miles of range a night in, or over a thousand miles a weeks at a cheap rate. Sounds like a nightmare.
Its a click bait post of course. Octopus Intelligent Go already restricts its cheapest tariff to 6 hours, but you have the option of unlimited charging for £30 per month using the Intelligent Drive pack....that option does seem to be over subscribed so not available to new users, but the former option is still pretty good as pointed out by the posters above mine and I say that as a diesel car owner.
blueg33 said:
I ve heard that petrol prices are going to go up.
They have always been going up since I started driving, it's nothing new. I don't even look at prices when filling. Couldn't tell you how much a litre is.Would be more annoyed if I was limited to how much fuel I could put in my car when filling up.
Edited by MightyBadger on Monday 15th December 10:58
MightyBadger said:
blueg33 said:
I ve heard that petrol prices are going to go up.
They have always been going up since I have started driving, it's nothing new. I don't even look at prices when filling. Couldn't tell you how much a litre is.Would be more annoyed if I was limited to how much fuel I could put in my car when filling up.
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